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Sin317
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Sin317
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Mar 2021 15:46 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | Then stop correcting others and bringing it up, maybe? |
Nawp.
:i paid little attention to mcu movies
:heres a tiny detail I noticed in the show that may be important but really isn't.
Which is it?! 
In movies she was a failed experiment.
It got retconned in the show. She was always like this:/
And just got stronger with the failed experiment.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Mar 2021 16:05 Post subject: |
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You were correcting me, you doofus, lol.
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Mar 2021 18:08 Post subject: ***** |
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between ep1 and ep8 this went from a 3 to about a 8out of 10 for me ... great job!
fuck ...
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such a dissapointing finale, the theories were more interesting than what we got, and what we got was very simple and safe. was still a great show but when it comes to marvel its probably best to never think you are going to get more, they are never going to go deeper or think greater.
such a big contrast between this and what snyder did with dceu
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| Posted: Fri, 5th Mar 2021 23:28 Post subject: |
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| StEFaN7 wrote: | such a dissapointing finale, the theories were more interesting than what we got, and what we got was very simple and safe. was still a great show but when it comes to marvel its probably best to never think you are going to get more, they are never going to go deeper or think greater.
such a big contrast between this and what snyder did with dceu |
Wtf you talking about?!
You gotta like watch others peoples opinions as they dissect snyder to get some pseudo metaphoric bs out of it. Aint nobody got time to watch 6hr youtube videos of people who read 8 books on a topic of imagery to explain to you why the common consensus is wrong.
It ain't wrong. If you gotta dig deep, read into minute details... thats not brilliance thats lazy story telling. Thats using a thesaurus to lengthen your short essay.
The finale while disappointing - wasn't.
She had to make a difficult choice and she made it because as everyone told her she was one thing she fought to be better. Simple. To the point. And it worked.
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Fri, 5th Mar 2021 23:37 Post subject: |
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wtf are YOU talking about? if you have problems understanding and need to watch a yt video then you have bigger problems, not all of us have that problem.
and for this show, what happened to the hyped multiverse? what was the point of evan peters? what a fucking waisted potential. the shows was very simple in the end, but between episodes the theories were more interesting from what we got.
there is fucking no ambition from marvel, with the exception from the avengers movies that they brought everyone together, the rest are very simple movies
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WaldoJ
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Dude. Snyder movies have layers and layers and layers and majority of people don't see them and understand them. Thats why sucker punch is a misogynistic vision
Thats why batman kills people.
Thats why superman kills people.
Thats why dawn of the dead is because of Muslims are bad.
Thats why 300 is very racist and xenophobic
Thats why that owl movie is anti Semitic.
Like... these are majority opinions of his movies.
So stfu. You can defend snyder all you want, but you need to understand his works to understand his works.
Majority of people aren't autistic to understand his layers. And if you got the majority of his metaphors upon first viewing of anything kudos to you for understanding simple shit wrapped in a wrinkly riddle.
You say snyder shit is better than mcu. Visually yes.
Story wise, character development wise, not even close.
Hes a brilliant filmmaker, and does some shit that a lot of people can't even get close to, but his story ideas are too deep, so he layers them to make them simple whilst convoluting them because he cant make it simple. Its like
Its not high brow cinema... its not intellectual... its just low brow masquerading as high brow. His cape shit is Saturday morning cartoons after dark. Like... bro...
Wandavision laid shit out, it was easy to follow and it was deep. It was only disappointing cause it didn't have huge reveals. Lol.
Everyone assumed multiverse and the show didn't even bring it up. It was laid bare and people read into it.
Stop riding snyder. Jl will be as deep as mos and bvs. And I guess since it's possible to drown in a puddle... its gonna be deeeeeeep.
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What an underwhelming finale. Anybody except for Wanda, vision and the "villain" were nothing but useless filler. None of the side stories added anything substantial.  Spoiler: | What was the evil fbi dudes plan? LET'S GET IN THIS IS OUR CHANCE!!! to do what? Point guns at god like powerful crestures and kids? Then getting disarmed and trying to murder kids?  oh yeah photon saved the kids omg it's not like that lil boy could've stopped the bullets mid air oh wait no he did exactly that xD Anyhow, so Wanda will meet the real "rebuilt" vision next season eh? Ok cool. |
This was definitely not a conclusive nor interesting end.
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| StEFaN7 wrote: | | snyder likes to deconstruct his characters |
Only a huge fucking fanboy would call it that instead of just angsty 13 year old edgelord writing.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Mar 2021 13:55 Post subject: |
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| The_Zeel wrote: | | StEFaN7 wrote: | | snyder likes to deconstruct his characters |
Only a huge fucking fanboy would call it that instead of just angsty 13 year old edgelord writing. |
i guess you missed this part
here is a quote from the vanity fair article about snyder:
Diane Nelson, who was president of DC Entertainment at the time, says she appreciated that Snyder was more into deconstructing the familiar than just recapitulating it. “Zack is a masterful visual storyteller who goes deep on individual characters,” she says. “For some people, that is amazing, and for other people that becomes the problem because they have fixed opinions about who these DC characters are and are not.”
i guess the PRESIDENT of DC knows jack shit, yes, oscar winning writer knows shit, yes, the internet knows best, best to watch more yt video for explanation on how to fix shit
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| PumpAction wrote: | What an underwhelming finale. Anybody except for Wanda, vision and the "villain" were nothing but useless filler. None of the side stories added anything substantial. | Spoiler: | What was the evil fbi dudes plan? LET'S GET IN THIS IS OUR CHANCE!!! to do what? Point guns at god like powerful crestures and kids? Then getting disarmed and trying to murder kids? oh yeah photon saved the kids omg it's not like that lil boy could've stopped the bullets mid air oh wait no he did exactly that xD Anyhow, so Wanda will meet the real "rebuilt" vision next season eh? Ok cool. |
This was definitely not a conclusive nor interesting end. |
Their plan was go in, kill the threat and recover the stolen property. Simple.
Yknow... like avengers did but with bullets. They had no idea of the extent of their powers.
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Mar 2021 14:11 Post subject: |
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this show was supposed to really get you pumped for the new spider man and doctor strange, yet it was mostly a standalone story. no multiverse and end payoff shit, looking back seems like most is filler, which is a shame couse it was great, every episoded ended on a great cliffhanger. like i said, it was safe, no ambition.
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It was safe as in for general audiences and still did things that I wouldn't call safe.
Cast an actor from a different franchise as a fake copy of that franchise only to reveal its not related in any way.
It needed more exposition for some of the things to hit harder. That i agree with.
And ambition... lol... since zack daddy deconstructs characters heres you're looking at complete deconstruction of wanda. So pretty ambitious.
Or is it not dark enough and shallow enough for you to be as poignant as Zack daddys simple character traits blown up in 4k?
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Mar 2021 14:28 Post subject: |
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go argue with Diane Nelson
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| StEFaN7 wrote: | | go argue with Diane Nelson |
Oh argue with a person whose sole purpose when being interviewed to shill and boast a product?
Even Lucas said prequel trilogy was fire.
Even said the new trilogy was fire.
Even feige approved for the mandalorian to just be an out of work actor in Iron man.
Like... if dc were ok with snyder and his movies they would have postponed justice league and not ruin it with Geoff johns and whedon... you know the golden boy of dc who hated snyders superman vision? And snyders batman vision? And his wonder woman? And his iron man? And his flash.
Or are we just going to listen to one dc person whose job is to publicly state how awesome things are. Just like the head of mcu praised captain marvel? You do know majority of media is pr. Or nah?
Stan Lee loved Garfield spiderman. Public consensus on that?
Its ok to like things. I love snyders visual story telling and audio design and character design, but his story telling needs work. But don't be obtuse and argue against common knowledge. Makes you look blind.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Mar 2021 15:31 Post subject: |
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I liked productions like JJ and DD much more even though this one clearly had a bigger budget. This was just your typical MArvel stuff IMO.
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After the first couple of episodes that were really great, this became just standard superhero filler. Small glimpses of good stuff throughout, but mostly exactly what you've seen 234823472398 times before. Super disappointing.
If the rest of the MCU shows continue like this, oh boy
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Fanboys will fanboy because characters they know, easter eggs, etc.
At the moment I only wait for something breaking the standard like GotG or Thor from Waititi.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Mar 2021 14:15 Post subject: |
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I liked it and I am no Marvel Fanboy.
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Well I'm happy for you.
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He is so insincere and praises literally anything comic book related to be liked by the people in power
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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