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Yeah, extremely retarded, considering Gorman retweeted Rijneveld's message of how happy she was she got the assignment.
I don't see why a black Dutch translator would do a better thing. US' politics and racism is in no way comparable to how things are in Europe. Some people just can't wait to start a race war here, even when there's nothing to fight over.
Every black, white, asian, gay, transsexual, etc belongs in their own corner, and don't you dare to come out or you'll be burned at the stake. Neo-fascism, nothing more, nothing less.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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Research, what's that? I thought this was a joke but others pointed out that she writes such stuff seriously 
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Stuff like that gets many clicks, that's the whole reason of it. Expect more and more of that sort of thing since it's much less profitable to be accurate than to write something that causes "WTF moments". If it wasn't for that article no one would even know of that small site, they must have gotten millions of clicks.
But you did good, screenshots is the way to go, not URLs to these sites.
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| paxsali wrote: | | https://jezebel.com/who-forgot-to-invite-chun-li-to-the-mortal-kombat-1846300631 wrote: | | Update, 4:39 p.m.: Jezebel has discovered the answer to our question about Chun Li’s erasure, and it is that Chun Li is not part of the Mortal Kombat megaverse. Wow! |
They faked being dumb and ya'll took the bait. Now they have your clicks, which is all they really wanted...  |
They don't need to fake being dumb though  This is why we post screenshots and don't link to the shitpiece.
@Thezorina: That's the core audience of the site taking the piss. Best not lose yourself in that filth. 
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It's really sad that the consoomers genuinely think these subscription services are good deals. They wouldn't exist if they were.
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Clownworld 2021 keeps keeping on:
| Quote: | | Teachers Compile List Of Parents Who Question Racial Curriculum, Plot War On Them |
https://archive.ph/1YKNK
Doesn't anyone involved in this, at any given time, think on the possibility of shit like this horribly backfiring? And pushing the "wrongthinkers" further and further away? Guess not.
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| tonizito wrote: | Clownworld 2021 keeps keeping on:
| Quote: | | Teachers Compile List Of Parents Who Question Racial Curriculum, Plot War On Them |
https://archive.ph/1YKNK
Doesn't anyone involved in this, at any given time, think on the possibility of shit like this horribly backfiring? And pushing the "wrongthinkers" further and further away? Guess not. |
We already have a divided "western" world of wrong thinkers (normal, decent people) and virtue signaling fake woke people, the later is a much, much smaller group but they are the media, the movie industry, big tech, partially the gaming industry. They're hip, loud, angry and they're winning ground. Normal people don't see it always, they fall for their traps all the time and eventually they too get caught up in their schemes.
The counter movement is weak because it consists of mostly very decent people and decent people don't go to the same insane lengths as these fake woke people do. First and foremost these "woke" people infiltrate everything. It's a big movement and it consists of total extremists, it's obviously extremely dangerous.
US had a president who saw it, could eventually have taken measurements against it (big tech, politicized left leaning schools), now they have an absolute tool of a socialist idiot who'll gladly join in on the madness and who will support it.
Expect more censorship, expect counter movements of any sorts to eventually be outlawed, expect public schools to get even more hardcore with the brainwashing. If you have kids make sure you have very good insight into what they are being taught.
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The countermovement is rather lame because the most vocal people of the countermovement are fucking idiots who think the former american president was somehow helping something rather than himself and his narcissism and "saw" something like he was somehow a political genius rather than a showman and an asshole who capitalized on his bad character. Which says a lot about the people supporting him.
The countermovement is also rather lame because the loudest crowd of the countermovement have the level of education that makes them say rather stupid stuff like Biden is a socialist. People who seem to have no clue of what socialism means in economic terms.
The countermovement is also rather flaccid because many the people spearheading it are nationalist smoothbrains who like stronk leaders because they themselves need leadership rather than allow some form of enlightenment. They likely will replace what they perceive as despotic (by the woke feminiazis) by another despotic system because they somehow believe their own populist soothsayers.
The biggest issue with all this shit is that the larger mass of mainly educated people simply will try to avoid getting caught in the middle of the internet left-right clusterfuck. There is a strong increase of populism on both extremes of the spectrum and neither will be able to tell what really happens. Both will paint their enemy as the devil and if you fall for either side you're an idiot.
What needs to happen is for people to speak up against both these extremisms, both in socialist and conservative camps. And the time is fucking now. And conservatives need intelligent, educated and well spoken leaders instead of populist assholes.
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edit: Sorry for my tone. I’m tired.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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The biggest argument MSM had against Trump was indeed his personality.
As for Biden and Socialism, some would agree that he absolutely is, some would not. It's different topic too.. But yes, someone like Biden will be more supportive towards shit like cancel culture, censorship, than someone like Trump, Biden is not affected by censorship or by big tech, he would love too see more censorship, more cancellations, like any socialist would.
The countermovement isn't conservative, it's everyone who sees it for what it is and speaks out against it. In time i think we will get there, a bigger movement.
If you look at a small movement like Geeks and Gamers, they have plenty of black people, at least one LBTQ-person (lesbian), some leftists, seems like a muslim woman ("The Hijabi Gamer") might join them too which i think would be good. That's how it should look, how it must look, because it can't be about "being a conservative", anyone intelligent enough should be able to see this shit and speak out.
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I simply cannot agree with your take on socialism. Socialism isn’t about cancel culture or all this woke shit. And btw. shit got canceled by catholic conservatives for decades.
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If you look at a small movement like Geeks and Gamers, they have plenty of black people, at least one LBTQ-person (lesbian), some leftists, seems like a muslim woman ("The Hijabi Gamer") might join them too which i think would be good. That's how it should look, how it must look, because it can't be about "being a conservative", anyone intelligent enough should be able to see this shit and speak out. |
Yes, thats what I mean. Maybe some of these people are socialist. Doesn't mean they support all the woke shit.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Woke culture is the exact opposite of conservatism, so it's natural that there are no conservatives who will support it, that's why the countermovement has mainly conservatives.
Socialists, marxists/leftists are on the other side of the spectrum - progressiveness, woke ideas is a part of that. That does not mean every single one who's left leaning will support it, but too many does, you will rarely see anyone from Hollywood speak out against cancel culture or being woke, they will have a hard time finding work after that (see Gina Carano and many others, many not even conservatives which is perhaps the scary part - they force you to be on the extreme side of this or you're not a part of them).
Neither socialism or conservatism is about cancel culture or censorship but it can absolutely get there if we are not careful with it, plenty of countries could serve as examples, on both sides.
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https://twitter.com/Sutorippu/status/1372743359207514115
inb4 this gets nuked from orbit for promoting "hate speech" AND, somehow, white supremacy
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| vurt wrote: | | Woke culture is the exact opposite of conservatism, so it's natural that there are no conservatives who will support it, that's why the countermovement has mainly conservatives. |
I mean the last century, censorship mainly came from the conservative parties. Just remember PC games like Wolfenstein or Doom or even the Command and Conquer were censored or edited to please the censors. And those were conservatives.
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Socialists, marxists/leftists are on the other side of the spectrum - progressiveness, woke ideas is a part of that. That does not mean every single one who's left leaning will support it, but too many does, you will rarely see anyone from Hollywood speak out against cancel culture or being woke, they will have a hard time finding work after that (see Gina Carano and many others, many not even conservatives which is perhaps the scary part - they force you to be on the extreme side of this or you're not a part of them). |
What you call socialism here is just pandering to progressive and liberal ideas. But they are not socialists in any way. Hollywood is about ALOT of money. Its full on western capitalism.
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Neither socialism or conservatism is about cancel culture or censorship but it can absolutely get there if we are not careful with it, plenty of countries could serve as examples, on both sides. |
Of course.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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vurt
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I mean the last century, censorship mainly came from the conservative parties. Just remember PC games like Wolfenstein or Doom or even the Command and Conquer were censored or edited to please the censors. And those were conservatives. |
yeah, i was talking about woke culture there, not censorship, it's very separated from that since censorship is indeed something that can affect both conservative and progressive / leftist parties. You can also say that the socialism that existed in the past was more of an conservative socialism than a progressive one like now, at least it was in Sweden.
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| couleur wrote: | The countermovement is rather lame because the most vocal people of the countermovement are fucking idiots who think the former american president was somehow helping something rather than himself and his narcissism and "saw" something like he was somehow a political genius rather than a showman and an asshole who capitalized on his bad character. Which says a lot about the people supporting him.
The countermovement is also rather lame because the loudest crowd of the countermovement have the level of education that makes them say rather stupid stuff like Biden is a socialist. People who seem to have no clue of what socialism means in economic terms.
The countermovement is also rather flaccid because many the people spearheading it are nationalist smoothbrains who like stronk leaders because they themselves need leadership rather than allow some form of enlightenment. They likely will replace what they perceive as despotic (by the woke feminiazis) by another despotic system because they somehow believe their own populist soothsayers.
The biggest issue with all this shit is that the larger mass of mainly educated people simply will try to avoid getting caught in the middle of the internet left-right clusterfuck. There is a strong increase of populism on both extremes of the spectrum and neither will be able to tell what really happens. Both will paint their enemy as the devil and if you fall for either side you're an idiot.
What needs to happen is for people to speak up against both these extremisms, both in socialist and conservative camps. And the time is fucking now. And conservatives need intelligent, educated and well spoken leaders instead of populist assholes.
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1. Why do you assume, that Trump supporters voted for him because of his persona? If I had a vote in the states I would have absolutely voted for him DESPITE his many, many shortcomings as a person. And studie show, very many people think similarly. Because guess what: people also vote on what they want to see being done - and they saw a higher chance for normalcy with Trump.
2. All of my IRL friends are highly educated, intelligent, successful people, living in an a capital city, working in high end jobs (market, NGOs and some in government), who also do a lot of charity. They are loud. They are part of what you call the countermovement, and they all (along with me) used to be a LOT more liberal 10 years ago before this woke nonsense took over our culture. You categorize all of these people as if they were imbeciles. We are not. We are simply fed up with what we know all to well in its previous incarnation: communism. Yes, we in the eastern block have indeed already all witnessed this. What is now the woke man was 30-40 years ago the idealised soviet man, and western elites and journos were enamored with it then just as much as they are now.
3. The countermovement is far from flaccid. Masses of very intelligent people are naturally part of it, they just don't post it on social media, because they don't want to lose their jobs. But in pubs and homes they talk about this often.
You see, couleur, you make the exact same mistake the woke elites in New York make. You are arrogant, and can not comprehend how another intelligent person (or even a vastly more intelligent person than yourself) could have a different point of view of things. It is in fact the woke people who are most closed-minded of all. Don't be arrogant like them. Coming from a conservative this will sound a bit strange, but try being open minded?
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Forgot to reply to this.
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It used to be about money, the currency there now is politics and agenda, who can virtue signal the most. Which superhero can they turn gay, black or a BLM supporter to piss of fans and ruin the franchise some more. "Look at us, we are in control, we do what we want, fuck you fans" They don't give a shit that something like Batwoman lands on a 3 on IMDB, they'll just declare a new season which will go even more woke. They're driven by pure spite. Disney could do tremendously well with Star Wars, instead they will run it into the ground on purpose, they're fighting internally if someone makes it work and makes it appeal to fans. Big youtubers are made fun of from Lucasfilm employees if they like Luke Skywalker or Mandalorian.
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@Radicalus What does the woke culture have to do with communism? Communism is an economic system and as far as I can see the democratic party in the US is as further away from communism as most EU countries. Or socialism for that matter. What you mean is living under a tyranny . You had it so bad under your communism that now you have an irrational fear of it and see its ghost everywhere. But thats just as mad as those republicans who’ll yell communism/socialism at everything without understanding what that means. And honestly I don’t think thats a sign of higher intelligence. And if your countermovement sees as its only rescue the rage of neo-nationalism and national-capitalism then I’m sorry, I will not join it. Both neoliberalism and national-capitalism is purely about exploitation of the poor. You cannot have a democracy without allowing good education for everyone equally and that will not happen under national-capitalism or neoliberalism. You need a balance of real social-democratic policies and capitalist opportunity.
In your fight against woke culture, feminism and cancel culture etc. you’re just giving in to another populism. And if you’re not seeing that you’re not really open. Fearful people seldom are.
In a cultural fight you’re willing to adhere to right-wing populism because it apparently is on your side but in the end you’ll just get another despotic system. Your saviours will turn out to be just as bad as the ghosts you’re fighting. National-capitalists will do exactly the same as the ones you fear now. They will gain control of the media and education, they will terminate freedom of press and they will write the curricula of your students. They will can el everyone that doesn’t adhere to their ideals. It has happened before and it will happen again. Communists (like the ones in China or your former Russian friends) Fascists, Ultra-nationalists etc. they will all fuck the people just the same.
edit: And for the record, I am just as mad at woke/cancel culture as you are because I see cultural heritage destroyed and our justice system losing the presumption of innocence clause. That must absolutely stop and I think everyone I know agrees with me on that. Just noone would ever think voting for right-wing populists will somehow solve something. Rather to the contrary. Your fighting corona with the flu.
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| vurt wrote: | Forgot to reply to this.
| couleur wrote: | Hollywood is about ALOT of money. Its full on western capitalism.
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It used to be about money, the currency there now is politics and agenda, who can virtue signal the most. Which superhero can they turn gay, black or a BLM supporter to piss of fans and ruin the franchise some more. "Look at us, we are in control, we do what we want, fuck you fans" They don't give a shit that something like Batwoman lands on a 3 on IMDB, they'll just declare a new season which will go even more woke. They're driven by pure spite. Disney could do tremendously well with Star Wars, instead they will run it into the ground on purpose, they're fighting internally if someone makes it work and makes it appeal to fans. Big youtubers are made fun of from Lucasfilm employees if they like Luke Skywalker or Mandalorian. |
I'm not so sure about that. Yes, there is a alot of agenda in hollywood but the bottom line is still the same.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/DIS/disney/stock-price-history
None of these people will really support education, social programs, universal health care or a living minimum wage for ALL their workers (even those abroad). Supporting woke/cancel culture doesn't mean you're also supporting quintessential economic socialist ideas. They are full-fledged neoliberals.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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Couldn't care less about Disney franchises, quite simply they are shit. No substance, depth just computer gfx and bullshit. Disney have no agenda but appealing to the masses that pay for it, it's as simple as that. If that means marketing Woke, then they will do so. If it were profitable to do something else, they would do it.
Correct action is not consuming shitty rehash 80-90's IP's devoid of new idea', support new idea's and new IP, and let budding creative writers get the budget that would be wasted on shitty reboots/sequels etc.
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| AmpegV4 wrote: | | Disney have no agenda but appealing to the masses that pay for it |
No agenda? Really. They don't even appeal to their own fandom any longer.
The official Star Wars channel has every video downvoted in the tens of thousands. They got called out by many of their shareholders recently, one of them even asked when Kathlyn Kennedy was going to be fired (she won't be, they claim she's great).
Another shareholder asked why Carano was fired and Pedro wasn't, for doing the same things, asked "if they are left leaning" (obviously they are, they are leftist extremists and doesn't allow anyone to work there if they aren't or at least pretend to be that).
They're not gonna go out of business any time soon, but they sure aren't making the kind of money they could be, and they absolutely know this, and they don't care, it's all about the agenda.
As a big collector (used to be anyways) of their toys i also have very good insight into that, and they could have made immense amount of money on for example Baby Yoda from the first episode of Mandalorian. They didn't give a shit, took them like year to start getting profit from that character. They must have made like a billion copies of Rose Tico instead, which absolutely no one wanted, the stores were often filled with only that figure, hundreds of them. So even for toys they waste money to virtue signal, characters people wanted to buy were no where to be found, they did not care about it, even though it's extremely profitable for them.
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Wow, Reddit admins somewhat admitting they made shady moves regarding the situation. Never thought I'd see the day.
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| vurt wrote: | No agenda? Really. They don't even appeal to their own fandom any longer.
The official Star Wars channel has every video downvoted in the tens of thousands. |
I dont think myself an "agenda" as much as it IS appealing to the fans. Or at least a way off the mark attempt to.
They are trying to appeal to the 'money' demographic, and nothing more to me. But missed the dart board all together by thinking it was in a different place. They mistaken the loud minority of youth for the majority. And not the quiet content rest of the audience that doesn't make social/public statements.
Disney's target audience, no matter how time passes as you get older, and want the demographic to follow you...is sub 25 age group.
At least its 'bread and butter' core demographic. And they was blindly and awkwardly trying to milk that demographic from what they hear and see. Mistaking the very loud minority of counter culture people as the majority of opinion (every generation has them, and every generation has businesses making that mistake).
Best example of proof: The disney channel. not one show on that is worth a shit to watch if you are over 20. None of its made to appeal to anyone that is old enough to have kids. BUT it is made to appeal to them.
It's not an agenda in my eyes. it's a bottom line, and trying to shift/adjust/pander [incorrectly] to its core audience. While in your youth you may have been its core audience, and carry over a like for it past 25ish. You are a fan of theirs still, but now outgrew what they consider the core. No matter how much you may like them and enjoyment of them hasn't changed, thiers of you has..you have slipped into 'tier 2 or 3' demographic. No longer 1st tier. You are no longer the main squeeze, they moved on as you aged to grab fresh 'brand loyalty' eyes and wallets.
That "We already got you, and the income from your demo declines as age increases..we need to do what we assume the youth want. That's where top income is". Why? Because thats their model, they dont need to keep you as a fan [at least not a first line core brand focused one], long as your kids are new ones. They will get money from you, through them.
And for this example, not sure if its where you live, or just the US where I live, but I have the exact opposite experience of this:
| vurt wrote: | They're not gonna go out of business any time soon, but they sure aren't making the kind of money they could be, and they absolutely know this, and they don't care, it's all about the agenda.
As a big collector (used to be anyways) of their toys i also have very good insight into that, and they could have made immense amount of money on for example Baby Yoda from the first episode of Mandalorian. |
Baby yoda shit was EVERYWHERE. Toys, plushies, mugs, pens, resin figurines, stickers, clothes. Because they know young kids and young adults (their top tier target) eat up that trope baby groot/not the mama/muppet babies/minions mcguffin rip off type character. Insert mute/nonsense talking toddler looking character that does cute mischievous things. You got a product franchise! And at least in the US they played the shit out of it in stores for a year.
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