BTW, there is a sotre in my country that sells the 6800 xt for 1,385 Euro... it's expansive, but I somewhat have a feeling that prices starting to stablized here.
Whoo will be getting a 6900xt soon!
It's no 3090, but with microITX case and PSU dont think I could fit (or run) a 3090. And 3080 would be ok, but the ram is less than I have now [10gb vs 11gb]..and can't go 'down' in ram even if it's just a psychological reason..
Friend found some in stock at microcenter and grabbed one for me. Surprised they got this much stock in at once this shipment. usually he said it's 4-5 of them and those are gone in a day or two.
Spoiler:
$1499...a bit overpriced, but as I said before, still got someone with a 970 bugging me to sell my 1080ti to them, as they upgraded to a 1440 ultrawide and 970 struggles in some games and offered the $400. So in the end out of pocket paying retail(ish).
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I agree with you that at this point its more future proof to go with at least 12 gb Vram graphics card even that is far from the sole reasons for the card benchmark.
I considered to get the 6800 xt I found but I don't think its worth it with the gap and price from the 3070 I paid.
This is one of the reason I thought its better to wait for Nvidia to release the 3070 ti that will probably have 16 gb version.
But stock issues and prices hike basically "devoured the cards" so its better to get now if you can at decent price than to risk another prices hike.
Whoo will be getting a 6900xt soon!
It's no 3090, but with microITX case and PSU dont think I could fit (or run) a 3090. And 3080 would be ok, but the ram is less than I have now [10gb vs 11gb]..and can't go 'down' in ram even if it's just a psychological reason..
Friend found some in stock at microcenter and grabbed one for me. Surprised they got this much stock in at once this shipment. usually he said it's 4-5 of them and those are gone in a day or two.
Spoiler:
$1499...a bit overpriced, but as I said before, still got someone with a 970 bugging me to sell my 1080ti to them, as they upgraded to a 1440 ultrawide and 970 struggles in some games and offered the $400. So in the end out of pocket paying retail(ish).
6900XT is most of the time even faster than 3090 in rasterization performance, loving mine, its a beast of a card.
Yea also a reason I got it instead.
I dont play any raytrace games, nor any games that support DLSS. So both are a moot point for appealing selling points for me.
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I caved and bought a Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT Gaming OC for 1650€. Hope to sell my old 1080 for 500€ or so. The new card should last me awhile at 1440p.
I caved and bought a Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT Gaming OC for 1650€. Hope to sell my old 1080 for 500€ or so. The new card should last me awhile at 1440p.
Why though ? So much money for a next gen card that doesnt do next gen features well or at all. That card cant keep cyberpunk with medium RT at 1080p. Nor the majority of RT games. DLSS is nearing 50 games in all already. Pretty much every month you get announcements of new games with it. Literally every month for the last 7 or so months.
In your place id try to get a 3080TI when they launch, with a little luch you should be able to get one at msrp for the first few weeks before they start inflating the price. Then sell your radeon
breezer is smoking some heavy shit there, that gives him halucinations of the 6900 being faster than a 3090.
Why though ? So much money for a next gen card that doesnt do next gen features well or at all. That card cant keep cyberpunk with medium RT at 1080p. Nor the majority of RT games. DLSS is nearing 50 games in all already. Pretty much every month you get announcements of new games with it. Literally every month for the last 7 or so months.
In your place id try to get a 3080TI when they launch, with a little luck you should be able to get one at msrp for the first few weeks before they start inflating the price. Then sell your radeon
Its not faster than 3080, its within margin of error. a 3090 waves from far away.
I have seen the opposite in reviews, tests, and benchmarks for it vs 3080. It's not much better but its not margin of error. Margin of error goes either way, if it's always coming out on the top of that margin it's a hair faster. not 'noise'.
RT is a different story 3080 is a hair faster in return on it. But some of us might not really care for RT or DLSS.
I myself think RT is an important step, just I myself dont care if my game has it, or if I turn it on. At least not until an entire game itself is RT and just not reflections and specific lights, and dont see that happening in the next couple gen of cards.
And DLSS to me is 'cheating better FPS the hidden way'. Not saying its bad, or cheap, just my personal feeling on if I had to use it.
If I need to turn DLSS on, either I need a better card as mine can't do it without scaling. Or the game just cant be run at native. Sure its psychological. But the reason Id use it would come with the thought "Crap, I had to turn DLSS on to get it smooth". It would be the last step for good fps: OK I give up, lets try DLSS see if that helps..downressing for frames here I come!
Plus a subreddit for nvidia isnt the best place to get AMD performance stats.
[Not defending AMD. Id take either. 3080ti (when they come out) or 3090 would have been just as good for me if they was all I could find too].
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I caved and bought a Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT Gaming OC for 1650€. Hope to sell my old 1080 for 500€ or so. The new card should last me awhile at 1440p.
I am trying to do similar thing with my 3070 I bought, got at at cheap price but trying to sell it at similar level(a bit lower) the price is now on stock, I sitll think I might get something like 6800 xt or 3080 level, but the RX 6900 and 3090 are overkill in my opinons, No idea why people here must have the top of the top graphics cards.
Same reason some people want 400HP cars for daily drivers, $2000 speakers, festool woodworking tools for the home shop, or overkill chef level pans and utensils for cooking home meals:
It's our 'primary' hobby we enjoy, we devote expendable income to improving beyond what we 'need'.
I dont need a 6900xt. But tools and PC parts are literally all I spend my expendable money on. Some people like going out and spending $1000+ a year drinking in pubs on weekends, or on movie tickets and popcorn, or to go watch their sports team on season tickets. I like this.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
Why though ? So much money for a next gen card that doesnt do next gen features well or at all. That card cant keep cyberpunk with medium RT at 1080p. Nor the majority of RT games. DLSS is nearing 50 games in all already. Pretty much every month you get announcements of new games with it. Literally every month for the last 7 or so months.
In your place id try to get a 3080TI when they launch, with a little luck you should be able to get one at msrp for the first few weeks before they start inflating the price. Then sell your radeon
Its not faster than 3080, its within margin of error. a 3090 waves from far away.
I have seen the opposite in reviews, tests, and benchmarks for it vs 3080. It's not much better but its not margin of error. Margin of error goes either way, if it's always coming out on the top of that margin it's a hair faster. not 'noise'.
RT is a different story 3080 is a hair faster in return on it. But some of us might not really care for RT or DLSS.
I myself think RT is an important step, just I myself dont care if my game has it, or if I turn it on. At least not until an entire game itself is RT and just not reflections and specific lights, and dont see that happening in the next couple gen of cards.
And DLSS to me is 'cheating better FPS the hidden way'. Not saying its bad, or cheap, just my personal feeling on if I had to use it.
If I need to turn DLSS on, either I need a better card as mine can't do it without scaling. Or the game just cant be run at native. Sure its psychological. But the reason Id use it would come with the thought "Crap, I had to turn DLSS on to get it smooth". It would be the last step for good fps: OK I give up, lets try DLSS see if that helps..downressing for frames here I come!
Plus a subreddit for nvidia isnt the best place to get AMD performance stats.
[Not defending AMD. Id take either. 3080ti (when they come out) or 3090 would have been just as good for me if they was all I could find too].
Thats not a subreddit for nvidia where it originated, thats just the bookmark i had. If you follow the link there it goes to a regular website. It indexes more than a dozen reviews from different countries, thousands of benchmarks and makes an average. Thats the important data to take from there.
Theres no need to justify dismissing RT and DLSS. If you shell this kind of money, why would you chose the card with less of everything ? It makes no sense. For the same price or more to chose a piece that gives you fewer features.
This isnt marginaly better,a hair faster as you say, its 2 to 3 times faster.
You can call dlss cheating or whatever, the hard fact remains its one of the best features we have ever gotten in gaming and it enables playing at high resolution WITH large framerates. And you're having it in a lot of big games going forward.
Im just going by what makes the most sense. I would not pick a radeon card this gen personally no mather the cost. You just leave too much on the table
(Edited: Do order so it was less scatterbrained)
That's what I saying..When you say: Im just going by what makes the most sense. You are saying what makes the most sense...for you. I'm not crapping on nvidia saying AMD is better this gen. Just either-or is fine for my usage case.
No games strike my fancy that uses either of them [I rarely ever play triple A games unless a friend buys it for me to and asks me to]. For example I play games allll day, too much actually..but never played any: Assassins Creed(s), God of War, Gears of War, Battlefield(s), Cyberpunk, Tomb Raider, Call Of Duty(s), The Witcher(s)..etc.
It's just a personal thing is all:
DLSS: (to me) is a last resort turn on feature to try to get frame rates to match monitor if native res wont work. If I have one of the best cards made, why should I need it? It would mean either the card is underpowered for current gen games, or the games are either badly optimised, or made with the idea of "Well it runs like crap, but let them downres it and DLSS and it runs OK".
In my head it's purely knowing I am having to gimp my res and the card hide it for me. Id (and do now) turn details down before changing res, just how I am.
People want it? People use it? it's amazing tech? Sure. Just not tech I'd be fond of using..purely from a physiological standpoint of: I payed $1500 for this 3090, and I need to downres to frame sync? Sure I won't notice it with DLSS, but I will know it.
(not a bad thing, or dumb thing...just not my thing).
And RT: Those that do use it (at this gen) use it on a few things like reflections and sprinkled in eye candy lights [and I don't play any of them]. My reason for wanting RT in a game, would be whole game is rendered that way, and this gen (or next) isn't going to do it. So why get a card that has it, when I wont use it.
The only RT I would do is load Minecraft go "OHH fancy" and be done with it in a day.
In the end, I doesn't matter if you understand why I got what I got, only if I understand why I got what i got.
Like I said, 3090, 3080, 3080 ti, 6800xt or 6900xt would have all been fine to me, as what I use it for they are all coke vs pepsi. I just got the first of the bunch I found.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Well, if you could get a 3090 for the same price of that 6900XT then you got scammed, like breezer
If the alternative for the same price was a 3080 then fair enough. If there simply was NO alternative then good job and congratulations
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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
3090 wont fit in my case. That was also part of the decision on the price of a new case (and have to rebuild it all in it).
And I got it for $1000, can't get a 3090 for that.
Sure if a 3090 was that same price, and fit in my case. I'd have got it. Just for the raw extra (and mostly useless for me, diminishing returns and all that) render horsepower.
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(Edited: Do order so it was less scatterbrained)
That's what I saying..When you say: Im just going by what makes the most sense. You are saying what makes the most sense...for you. I'm not crapping on nvidia saying AMD is better this gen. Just either-or is fine for my usage case.
No games strike my fancy that uses either of them [I rarely ever play triple A games unless a friend buys it for me to and asks me to]. For example I play games allll day, too much actually..but never played any: Assassins Creed(s), God of War, Gears of War, Battlefield(s), Cyberpunk, Tomb Raider, Call Of Duty(s), The Witcher(s)..etc.
It's just a personal thing is all:
DLSS: (to me) is a last resort turn on feature to try to get frame rates to match monitor if native res wont work. If I have one of the best cards made, why should I need it? It would mean either the card is underpowered for current gen games, or the games are either badly optimised, or made with the idea of "Well it runs like crap, but let them downres it and DLSS and it runs OK".
In my head it's purely knowing I am having to gimp my res and the card hide it for me. Id (and do now) turn details down before changing res, just how I am.
People want it? People use it? it's amazing tech? Sure. Just not tech I'd be fond of using..purely from a physiological standpoint of: I payed $1500 for this 3090, and I need to downres to frame sync? Sure I won't notice it with DLSS, but I will know it.
(not a bad thing, or dumb thing...just not my thing).
And RT: Those that do use it (at this gen) use it on a few things like reflections and sprinkled in eye candy lights [and I don't play any of them]. My reason for wanting RT in a game, would be whole game is rendered that way, and this gen (or next) isn't going to do it. So why get a card that has it, when I wont use it.
The only RT I would do is load Minecraft go "OHH fancy" and be done with it in a day.
In the end, I doesn't matter if you understand why I got what I got, only if I understand why I got what i got.
Like I said, 3090, 3080, 3080 ti, 6800xt or 6900xt would have all been fine to me, as what I use it for they are all coke vs pepsi. I just got the first of the bunch I found.
To me it sounded like you did a long winded "I do like Nvidia, but..." But honestly who cares. You like what you like and support what you want. No ones business to tell you what to get
its in everyones busines and best interest to make sure nvidia n amd dont turn into apple iphone scammers pushing out iphone 11 12 13 every year with bullshit features
its in everyones busines and best interest to make sure nvidia n amd dont turn into apple iphone scammers pushing out iphone 11 12 13 every year with bullshit features
I dont see any alternatives and i aint pioneering by buying worse products for a good cause
6800 xt is arguably a better card than the 3080, at least when it comes to the OC versions.
How ? Its demonstrably slower. Its not someones opinion, we have exact numbers from benchmarks. In fact, the amd leaning friends from hardware unboxed made a video 2 days ago testing the "highest" end cards, from both vendors. A 3090 Suprim X from msi and a liquid cooled radeon 6900xt devil from powercolor.
They found what we already knew, these cards are maxed right from the box. And oc-ing the standard models nets you similar performance gains, around 5-6% as the most expensive models, liquid cooled with the highest power draw. Its not worth talking about overclocking this gen. You push the clocks a bit on both nvidia and amd and you get your free 5% extra. Its not gonna make a slower card be the victor.
I got the shappire nitro plus, what It's kinda annoying that its 3 display ports and only one hdmi 2.1.
Yea I get that, that you can easily convert it to hdmi, but I like to use it natively, asus nvidia cards tend to have 2 hdmi instead of one, they are still only supports up to 4 displays though, I guess its more of giving your more connections options instead of using converters.
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