Forza Horizon 5
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jun 2021 20:53    Post subject: Forza Horizon 5


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Mike Brown, creative director of Forza Horizon 5 debuts an extended first look at gameplay. Join Mike and a few friends as they showcase a taste of what Forza Horizon 5 has to offer. Beautiful, diverse landscapes are on display as our players dip into a game of Piñata Pop through Horizon Arcade. Be sure to stick around until the end to check out a few possibilities of EventLab including custom races, challenges, stunts, and entirely new game modes.

Your ultimate Horizon adventure awaits! Explore the vibrant and ever-evolving open world landscapes of Mexico with limitless, fun driving action in hundreds of the world’s greatest cars.

Available on Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Xbox Cloud Gaming, and PC on Windows 10 and Steam.


https://store.steampowered.com/app/1551360/Forza_Horizon_5/

Okay, I generally don't like racing games, but this looks crazy, at least graphically.
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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jun 2021 22:01    Post subject:
I was not expecting FH5 to come out so soon, best news of the day for me. Looks amazing!


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PostPosted: Sun, 13th Jun 2021 22:02    Post subject:
looks good but lets see if its even more diverse and dumbed down like forza horizon 4 already was compared to fh3.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 00:44    Post subject:
I watched the E3 live stream and was very disappointed. They're taking the silly Lego expansion bullshit from FH4 and making all that crap part of FH5. And Mexico? For offroad/dirt purposes, sure.. But super- and hypercars?

I hoped for Japan all along but no, we get some dusty gimmicky stuff in a country where the roads have more potholes than swiss cheese.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 03:37    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I watched the E3 live stream and was very disappointed. They're taking the silly Lego expansion bullshit from FH4 and making all that crap part of FH5. And Mexico? For offroad/dirt purposes, sure.. But super- and hypercars?

I hoped for Japan all along but no, we get some dusty gimmicky stuff in a country where the roads have more potholes than swiss cheese.


Yea I agree with everything.

Will probably buy it on sale or something.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 05:48    Post subject:
Damn, I was really hoping for a new Forza 8 game.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 07:12    Post subject:
I'm hyped for FH5 but seriously...Mexico??? Good thing it will be included in game pass on launch.
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 08:19    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I watched the E3 live stream and was very disappointed. They're taking the silly Lego expansion bullshit from FH4 and making all that crap part of FH5. And Mexico? For offroad/dirt purposes, sure.. But super- and hypercars?

I hoped for Japan all along but no, we get some dusty gimmicky stuff in a country where the roads have more potholes than swiss cheese.


Agreed, only the jungle peaks a little of my interest for offroad races, but yeah, not super hyped about Mexico either.
Since it seems this one will be coming out on Steam at launch.. let's hope its online will also be crackable, like FH4 ? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 08:52    Post subject:
Looks nice but cars' physics seem to be a bit too silly compared how good the actual graphics are.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 11:26    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
Damn, I was really hoping for a new Forza 8 game.


It's coming, they're still working on it and it's a game that is much more technical when it comes to realistic physics and handling compared to Horizon which is arcade racing using the Forza engine. Seems it will be a 2022 release.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 11:29    Post subject:
I'll stick with FH4 until the FH4 servers are empty or shut them down if FH5 is just silly and boring. We'll see I guess. It'd be good if I could get a 1-month free Gamepass so I could try it out when it's released but I don't know if they are as generous with that anymore since they service is apparently doing very well with tons of subs.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 11:37    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 11:55    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I watched the E3 live stream and was very disappointed. They're taking the silly Lego expansion bullshit from FH4 and making all that crap part of FH5. And Mexico? For offroad/dirt purposes, sure.. But super- and hypercars?

I hoped for Japan all along but no, we get some dusty gimmicky stuff in a country where the roads have more potholes than swiss cheese.


But that lego part, as far as I understand, is some kind of a Trackmania editor they call EventLab where people make their own race tracks. Could be interesting tbh.

And it really looks like this game is more off-road focused. Even in FH4 it was almost impossible to drive hypercars on such roads. Maybe to compensate for the not that many km of asphalt straight roads they make that EvenLab thing. We know they can't go with total accuracy and put holes in every road. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 15:26    Post subject:
Eh, I don't really care how arcade the game is, that's Horizon for you, it is meant to be rather brainless fun and that's about it. It's been the perfect game for me whenever I want to unwind and not rage at my screen because I needed to digest heaps of new content in order to be remotely competitive beforehand - I got Dota for that already. Pretty similar to former NFS games bar Porsche Challenge.

I agree that the EventsLab thing is pretty welcome, same stuff as the current events creator I reckon. It goes well with the arcade spirit of the game, and strongly reminds me of Trackmania/GTA5 custom races..

It's grindy as hell indeed, but I like the variety in events and whatnot. The game is basically meant never to end so yeah.. there's a grind. I don't care about unlocking stuff at all - not enough to actually do it. I don't really know wtf they could come up with in order to keep things interesting in their open world formula either.
For competitive needs, there's AC, ACC and the likes. Smile

I'm not sure about the focus on the off-road part though, FH4 already has more than enough content for that, I don't really want more.. if anything, I wouldn't have minded some more asphalt races with actual circuits.


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PostPosted: Mon, 14th Jun 2021 18:02    Post subject:
Going to check it out, setting is highly similar to FH1 (and FH3 with AUS) though, generally North America with the canyons so Mexico will be very same-ish but it will definitely give the racing time I need after FH4.

Thankfully with Gamepass it's quite easy to get a good look at the game for minimal spending.
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Jun 2021 10:17    Post subject:
Looks good, but that video and the corporate cringe made it a hard watch. How many times did he have to say the word "diverse"
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2021 01:12    Post subject:
had more fun with tdu series then with fh series, fh series are kind a blend, way to little races. But graphics are outstanding.


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2021 05:28    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
dethy wrote:
Damn, I was really hoping for a new Forza 8 game.


It's coming, they're still working on it and it's a game that is much more technical when it comes to realistic physics and handling compared to Horizon which is arcade racing using the Forza engine. Seems it will be a 2022 release.


Man, I hope you're right!


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2021 09:35    Post subject:
If only it had more focused career mode, ehh...
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2021 12:28    Post subject:
If only it had less arcade driving model -.-


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2021 14:26    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
If only it had less arcade driving model -.-

Same, I was hoping that turning off all the helps and using the "Simulation" setting could improve things but, alas, the franchise is just meant to be a very good looking bumper car experience. Razz

It's a shame that we never had a modern open-world driving game with physics in it - unless we count the ghetto solution GTA V with ARS + Realistic Driving mod. There's a new Test Drive that's coming from Nacon, though they're using the KT engine from WRC so it's likely not going to be the most satisfying thing to drive either.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2021 16:42    Post subject:
Couldn't pass up a deal via MS Iceland, around 62 € for the Premium Edition (https://www.microsoft.com/en-IS/p/forza-horizon-5-premium-edition/9mtlkm2djmz2) without the need for any VPN, etc. Was added straight to my german account.

Graphics are looking good, will play it on my PC and most likely enjoy it for the most part until Forza Motorsport 8 and/or the new Gran Turismo comes out. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jun 2021 19:28    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
Vikerness wrote:
If only it had less arcade driving model -.-


It's not THAT bad, actually and that's me saying that, who's very picky about things.

The problem is, the faster the cars get, starting from Supercar, going to Hypercars and beyond, they behave not like "arcade", because "arcade" is actually quite good, it becomes "casual", as in Nintendo 64 for 8yo's driving physics and "Super Mario Kart".

There are many good arcade racer's you know... Sega Rally, Initial D, ... Laughing

The "lower end" cars are actually pretty enjoyable, I find.

So everything between D and A.


Completely agree, the S+ class supercars are just.. I don't know, but these genuinely don't behave like actual cars Laughing They're a pain in the ass to drive during the snow season alright though.
Rest is very enjoyable in a arcadey way.


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Aug 2021 07:48    Post subject:
The S1 class is pretty good as well, esp. in tarmac circuit races. You have to be fairly good with taking corners, esp. in the super-tight 90-degree corners in Edinburgh. S1 class is only fun/good on tarmac though. Dirt racing is only fun at B and A class. S2 is just silly since most courses are too small (except the big one that covers the outline of the entire map from start to finish). I do wish they had implemented a damage model that would truly penalize you for crashing (= DNF) to give it a more tense experience. I know you can enable some tweaks to affect the tyres but since that's a purely personal choice it's pointless since nobody else will use that.

Horizon 4 has run it's course though. I started playing it again (after ~1 year) a few days ago. DAMN I suck, driving like a noob. I reached 4☆ player level and League 11 in ranked and was pretty good. Now I'm back to square one. I had a list on my phone of which cars to use in each race form (circuit, street, dirt, offroad), ~4-5 cars for each class (class C, B, A, S1, S2), each specifically tuned for that form and class as well as weather (dry, rain, snow). I don't have that list anymore and I've forgotten nearly everything (although I have a ton of cars marked as favorites I have no idea which season/weather they're for).

The only form of racing in Horizon 4 where you can do somewhat serious racing is ranked. People tend to be more "professional" there since losing a race will cost you points and ultimately demote you to a lesser league. You need to reach at least league ~12-10 to find more serious racers. When you reach league 5 you're meeting skilled racers that have personalized tunes you won't find in the tuning database.

Anyway, I'm just playing some casual free-for-all races at times, some playground matches, the trial races and trying to break my own and others records (speed traps, jump distances etc.). I simply don't know of a single racing game that is even half as fun as Horizon 4. Being a 2018 game it still looks pretty damn good (it's been updated over time) while I run all the useful visual settings on max/ultra with perfectly smooth 60fps on my overclocked 1060.

As for FH5, the map is apparently only 1.5x the size of FH4 which is kind of disappointing. The first ~1-2 months the FH4 map felt quite big and varied. The more I played, the smaller and less interesting the game world became. I believed/hoped that FH5 would have at LEAST a map that was twice as big. FH4's expansions were crap, esp. the Lego shit show. The second expansion, Fortune Island, was a little better but ultimately useless as well since it's mainly used by drifters. You'll rarely find any people playing there and the main gameplay is basically finding and collecting crap. :/


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2021 13:42    Post subject:
I got the $1 game pass (1 month + 2 free months) and will take the opportunity to check it out. I guess FH4 will slowly (or rapidly) lose players to FH5 and die off just like FH1, FH2 and FH3.


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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2021 14:19    Post subject:
im ready for this
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