My current understanding is that FSR is just some sharpening or something similar. DLSS hallucinates details with a deep learning model, that can produce convincing details. Unless I hear anything else from FSR I have no use for it. They are not replacements of each other.
You should make the distinction between DLSS and DLSS 2.0 since they are vastly different with DLSS 2.0 being vastly superior to the original DLSS.
As for FSR, it's not proprietary and will work most GPU's from 2016 and forward whether it's AMD or Nvidia. They never said it was meant to compete with DLSS in quality. While I have no personal use for it (I still run 1080p native on a 1080p screen) I think it's great for those with 1440+ res screens that don't own an RTX card and thus can't use DLSS 2.0. It allows you to run in native resolution with much better quality upscaling than standard upscaling while retaining good performance.
AMD will probably update their FSR tech to improve quality as well... Obviously it's most likely not something people with GPU's that can run DLSS 2.0 will use.
Have you seen examples of generative deep learning models? Stuff of nightmares. Dogs with eyes all over the place and what not
Amadeus wrote:
Almost all upscaling techniques look good at enough at 4k
I disagree. I think DLSS 2.0 > some tradtional upscaling/sharpening filter. Assuming you sit close enough to the screen to appreciate 4K in the first place.
If you have some demonstration at hand, I would be curious to see it though
Frant wrote:
You should make the distinction between DLSS and DLSS 2.0 since they are vastly different with DLSS 2.0 being vastly superior to the original DLSS.
Almost all upscaling techniques look good at enough at 4k
Even lanczos
Magpie beautifully demonstrates that
Wish AMD jumped off the "good enough" train and managed to actually compete with Nvidia tech
its their first iteration of the tech and it looks better than nvidia first iteration DLSS, so it is good enough. Personally i dont care, im not using these image worsening techniques, not like i would even want to use them on high end cards, these should belong to cards that cant run games good enough (or developers need to learn optimize their shit if its not running on high end card).
Got yesterday an email from EVGA regarding the waiting list of 3080`s....got now a FTW3 Ultra for 930€ (with tax and shipping). Looks like they dont bother anymore with stocking here in the EU and sent the item directly from Taiwan to your doorstep. Delivery estimate at first was a week, changed now to tomorrow.
I must say i am quite happy since i tried to get a Founders Edition since release without a chance, therefore ill take the offer and no scalper got money from me which was my goal (ok you can debate if Manufacturers are scalping aswell to a degree).
Sure i could flip the card myself for some extra cash but i despite these people and gladly pass, i rather enjoy some DLSS and some newer titles which i have avoided till now mostly because of performance reasons.
so now that cyberfart is out, wat next gen games are we actually looking forward to that will push the gpu boundaries ? and dont say the new battlefield, thats the same frostshit engine since bf3 lol
where is the new "crysis" of this decenium !! and no, not rtx crysis or quake rtx, those are lame as fuck
With the GPU shortages, you have to wonder if they hold off on games that can really push GPU boundaries for a bit. It does feel like the current focus for a lot of games are for the PS5 since in the end that is probably where they make the most money.
there's that new one from bethesda, starfield, that's the one i'm looking forward to, and i hope they don't disappoint that bad, maybe it will provide some awesome gfx
i won't mention the ones i don't think will try to push gfx beyond, only saying starfield coz i wish it does. rlly need a cool space game.
With the GPU shortages, you have to wonder if they hold off on games that can really push GPU boundaries for a bit. It does feel like the current focus for a lot of games are for the PS5 since in the end that is probably where they make the most money.
Feels like they have hold off since 2007 when original Crysis released. To me it seems that developers do not want to show what PC could do, because consoles cant run it.. This makes me wonder why even make beefy high end GPU´s, oh yes bad optimization.
They provide you with a German address which consists of your name, customer number and their warehouse address. Mindfactory ships items to them and they forward the items to you.
You even get free shipping from Mindfactory and only pay MailboxDE for forwarding since their warehouse is in Germany.
Seems to be like the only shop that seems to sell them at that price, tho.
I mean, I never see anyone link to another one. How reliable are they?
i will never ever order anything from mindfactory again. maybe things have changed in the last 10 years but back then i received multiple repackaged or opened stuff without seals etc, which then of course didn't worked or not like it should. like dead motherboards, ram and so on. there is a reason they are so cheap, still many people praise them and just order from them. also they were also very slow with giving you the money back and all this shit. nothing better then order pc parts, getting a few defective parts and then you have to guess/trouble shoot what is really defective and what not and then also wait a few weeks to order something else.
it was the same for a friend of mine so i doubt we both had bad luck on multiple items.
Seems to be like the only shop that seems to sell them at that price, tho.
I mean, I never see anyone link to another one. How reliable are they?
i will never ever order anything from mindfactory again. maybe things have changed in the last 10 years but back then i received multiple repackaged or opened stuff without seals etc, which then of course didn't worked or not like it should. like dead motherboards, ram and so on. there is a reason they are so cheap, still many people praise them and just order from them. also they were also very slow with giving you the money back and all this shit. nothing better then order pc parts, getting a few defective parts and then you have to guess/trouble shoot what is really defective and what not and then also wait a few weeks to order something else.
it was the same for a friend of mine so i doubt we both had bad luck on multiple items.
I can confirm that, me and my friends all had issues back then 10+ years but i started ordering in 2014 again from them since as you said, they are the cheapest most of the time and since then they have changed. No more opened shit and service with refunds also got better (not that i had much apart from the 14 day warranty).
As of now i cant complain and use them if i can and cheap out on a couple of bucks.
Also my 3080 hasnt arrived yet, still stuck at the Airport.... hope it soon fucking moves toward my doorstep ^^
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