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StEFaN7
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no green tint, no hugo weaving, no short haired keanu with glasses, all i see is john wick
much hype but feels like some things are missing.
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2021 19:19 Post subject: |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2021 19:19 Post subject: |
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A nice reset. Different Neo.
Can't wait.
Great song too on the nose though.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2021 20:13 Post subject: |
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Seems like they are trying to re-invent the wheel again. I'm sure we all wish the first one was made with today's technologies but this one seems like another 'forced' movie.
All in all, 'meh' is what sums this trailer and probably the whole movie.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2021 20:24 Post subject: |
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ugh, it really does look like they just recycled all the fancy stuff from the previous ones and put it in a stale blender ... , like wtf all they had to do was put neo on my screen, say have him say hes back for unfinished business, but now im like wtf ive seen all this shit before, show me something new!
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2021 22:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 00:01 Post subject: |
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Whats up with fake morpheus
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 00:17 Post subject: |
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Looks really dumb (fake M. and the trailer as a whole).
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 00:42 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | https://trailers.apple.com/movies/wb/the-matrix-resurrections/the-matrix-resurrections-trailer-1_h1080p.mov
Looks very good (youtube quality was crap.) |
Is that keanu from speed in the background at 1:10? |
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 01:05 Post subject: |
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Nope, it's Keanu from Matrix 1. Just like they were playing scenes from Matrix 1 in Matrix 2 in the Architect's chambers. Matrixception.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 01:11 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Whats up with fake morpheus |
Based on the teasers from the other day, it seems he is some sort of sentient program. You see him being manufactured or something.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 04:28 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Whats up with fake morpheus |
The real one got old and fat.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 06:25 Post subject: |
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| StEFaN7 wrote: | | no green tint |
Looks like the Matrix from the end of Revolutions, colorful
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JackQ
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 08:36 Post subject: |
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More like John wick meet the Matrix.
"Fuck Denuvo"
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 09:09 Post subject: |
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looks way better than I expected.
I'm intrigued and will probably watch it in the cinema, like the originals 20 years ago.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 11:35 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | | Haha yep, that sums it up for me as well. Some of the shots are objectively pleasant while there are scenes that suspiciously smell of cheesy sci-familia soap opera. We'll see, the curiosity is there. I expect the movie to throw any logic out of the window and end with another orgy à la Sense8 in which Neo finally gets to hamfist Agent Johnson in slow-mo with You Spin Me Round's orchestral remix playing in the background. |
Spot on for me. While it looks interesting...I hope the trailer is just a concentrated 'memberberries hook and nothing more.
If the whole movie is that wrapped around a story, dont think I will like it. The trailer seems a exercise of: Ask 20 people what short clips of matrix 1 they remember. And recreate them...Kung fu scene, bullet stopping scene, slow mo spinning side flip off walls in a hallway, close ups of two color pills being handed over..etc.
Then add in story reason neo aged to remind everyone how long ago the old one was, how you was young looong ago when it came out, and how exciting it is this many years later its back. (Forced recognition of nostalgia).
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 14:19 Post subject: |
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| madness wrote: | | StEFaN7 wrote: | | no green tint |
Looks like the Matrix from the end of Revolutions, colorful |
you could be right
if you read the leaks then you will understand many things from the trailer
the real morpheus died in the matrix online game which is canon
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 19:15 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Whats up with fake morpheus |
Because they somehow made Matrix Online (yes, that mediocre MMO game) canon and Morpheus we know died in it.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2021 23:13 Post subject: |
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He's the "Morpheus at home" 
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2021 07:22 Post subject: |
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| difm wrote: | | KillerCrocker wrote: | | Whats up with fake morpheus |
Because they somehow made Matrix Online (yes, that mediocre MMO game) canon and Morpheus we know died in it. |
It is called Resurrections though so they could have brought back any dead character they wanted and who knows young Morpheus might morph into old Morpheus at the end so Fishburne is just playing coy like Dafoe and the old Sony Spider-Men are doing for the new film trying not to spoil any surprises.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2021 08:35 Post subject: |
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I cannot think of anyway this makes sense other than in a Jumping the Shark kind of way.
Morpheus was a physical person that died. So either:
-They ignore he died, and this is still him with a new actor.
-They say this is a new Morpheus, which makes no sense since (outside the matrix) Morpheus died. It's like saying Clark Kent died, so this is just Superman 2.0 ALSO named Clark Kent that looks like, talks like, and sort of looks like Clark. (Lazy rehash shoehorned backstory).
-He retroactively didn't die, just forget we did that, so they can keep the franchise going.
-Pull the old "Dallas Bobby Ewing" dream hacky answer of "It was all a dream, none of it happened". Because they changed their mind after backing themselves into a corner of concluding a story to find out a new season [movie] was approved and refuse to keep what they created as a basis. And it was Morpheus and his crew 'trial running' a program on Neo to prep him for later.
-Like above, but some cop-out sort of thing that Neo just imagined all the things long ago you know because he was THE one [after the fact fabricated premonition hand wave hacky exposition] and meeting Morpheus later is meeting him for the first time. Cue nostalgic glitch in the matrix deja-vu `memberberries as explanation.
Could be others, but if any of those it feels forced, and shoveled in so they can keep what they had that was popular to rehash it one more time.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2021 08:59 Post subject: |
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2021 09:00 Post subject: |
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LOL
"We heard you liked the matrix, so we put a matrix inside your matrix".
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2021 13:47 Post subject: |
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"Yahya"?
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2021 21:15 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | I cannot think of anyway this makes sense other than in a Jumping the Shark kind of way.
Morpheus was a physical person that died. So either:
-They ignore he died, and this is still him with a new actor.
-They say this is a new Morpheus, which makes no sense since (outside the matrix) Morpheus died. It's like saying Clark Kent died, so this is just Superman 2.0 ALSO named Clark Kent that looks like, talks like, and sort of looks like Clark. (Lazy rehash shoehorned backstory).
-He retroactively didn't die, just forget we did that, so they can keep the franchise going.
-Pull the old "Dallas Bobby Ewing" dream hacky answer of "It was all a dream, none of it happened". Because they changed their mind after backing themselves into a corner of concluding a story to find out a new season [movie] was approved and refuse to keep what they created as a basis. And it was Morpheus and his crew 'trial running' a program on Neo to prep him for later.
-Like above, but some cop-out sort of thing that Neo just imagined all the things long ago you know because he was THE one [after the fact fabricated premonition hand wave hacky exposition] and meeting Morpheus later is meeting him for the first time. Cue nostalgic glitch in the matrix deja-vu `memberberries as explanation.
Could be others, but if any of those it feels forced, and shoveled in so they can keep what they had that was popular to rehash it one more time. |
Morpheus died. This new Morpheus is most likely a program designed to resemble Morpheus and trigger the same reactions out of Neo as in the first movie - whether the machines' intent is to make Neo realize he's the one, and repeat the cycle ; or on the opposite keep Neo in some form of confusing delusion in which he doesn't amount to much - no clue. I mean, they can't be that dumb, the fact he barely looks like Morpheus is intentional, I don't believe they're straight up resurrecting him at all.
Not sure Trinity is part of that batch (her "apparent" self doesn't look like Trinity at all but an old lady, unlike Morpheus 2.0) or again, the "unreasonable" part of the human equation slipping past the machines once again. Blue-haired new "Trinity" is most likely the same as Morpheus 2.0 with the same objective regarding Neo - and the "returning" Trinity is unintentional on their behalf.
The lack of green tint is intentional too, it vanished at the end of Revolutions. I found some scenes to be blue-ish instead, which would make sense with the whole blue pill thing.
Idk, I'm fairly optimistic about this, could be all sorts of interesting, it's more amusing to me that people are screaming "shitty retcon, discount Morpheus" and all because it screams that's exactly the reaction they wanted at the first glance.. feeling kinda lonely in that regard though Maybe I'm the retard here ?
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2021 21:43 Post subject: |
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i think most people want this to be a continuation of the story and not another gimmick movie that goes for nostalgia/or soft reboot
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Sep 2021 21:55 Post subject: |
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@TheZor
I dont think they would go with a fake Morpheus the computer is tricking Neo with. Would be too controversial of a choice and divide the fans. As it would do the opposite of intent to get good reviews.
The ones that are liking the trailer, saying Morpheus and the plot is close enough to enjoy it would be slapped in the face with a "HA ...get em!" when its revealed one of the characters they waxed over is not even the real one. And those mocking it would be able to smuggly go "See? Told it was a shit Morpheus, dude wasn't even the real one".
So those that dont like it would have justification on why they was right for not liking it. Those that do will have been 'tricked' into watching a fake main nostalgia character.
I myself dont really care one way or the other as I probably will just catch it once its released to cable and it happens to be on while I'm eating dinner one night or such.
I thought the first Matrix was pretty good, 2 & 3 I couldn't get through in one sitting. Watched them in pieces as they happen to be on TV over the years. I feel it should have been just one movie, as they ran out of good story with one because they completed the whole 'hero's journey' in it.
And the other 2 was self important rambling exposition trying to 'seriouz buziness' explain the matrix (a 2 movie version of star wars Midi-chlorian crap) made up as they went along.
For 2 & 3, in a weird comparison like if da Vinci went "WOW people are really liking this mona lisa painting. Let me paint it on a bigger canvas with more background shown to get context of the building she is in, and explain where she is, what room she is in. Why she is sitting sideways and what time of day I painted it. And how I made my oil paints to use on it and what type of wood my brush handle is made of. People must REALLY want to know all that and will get an even fuller experience of it".
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