New World (Amazon's MMO)
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 13:54    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
but it is ... twitch, tiktok, youtube ,snapchat ... has all the eyeballs these days, if ur not relevant there, ur out of the big money club

whats your metric then ?

only gaming press ive seen of new world is negative botting/broken stuff recent weeks ... and no, ive not been looking for it specifically.


This is true though. You know the game is succesful if it's being streamed AND watched.

And yeah you don't even have to look for it to see everywhere that the game is up in flames.
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 13:55    Post subject:
It's also not true, a game can very well be successful even if it's not streamed or watched. There are a myriad of examples. This is why twitch is not a reliable metric.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 15:43    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
It's also not true, a game can very well be successful even if it's not streamed or watched. There are a myriad of examples. This is why twitch is not a reliable metric.


For example? I mean we are talking about MMOs here.
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pho08




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 15:54    Post subject:
suffered all the way to lvl 25 but no more!

this game is atrocious in so many ways it's not even funny.

and apart from all the game-design sins committted the worst part is it seems they made it EXTRA tedious/painful on PURPOSE?!

wtf is up with having an extra currency to fast travel (which you ironically earn by completing quests which in turn will have you do the same backtracking from a to b ad nauseam)... or a stash that is SPLIT between each settlement requiring yet more stupid travelling back and forth)....

will check back in a year or so but for now, fuck this game
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 16:12    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
Nodrim wrote:
It's also not true, a game can very well be successful even if it's not streamed or watched. There are a myriad of examples. This is why twitch is not a reliable metric.


For example? I mean we are talking about MMOs here.


If we are talking about MMOs, the vierweship of WoW on twitch is not reflective of its player base at all. Or you could take any popular Korean/Asian MMO into account, which don't really have a viewership on twitch, but have players in the millions.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 17:25    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Stige wrote:
Nodrim wrote:
It's also not true, a game can very well be successful even if it's not streamed or watched. There are a myriad of examples. This is why twitch is not a reliable metric.


For example? I mean we are talking about MMOs here.


If we are talking about MMOs, the vierweship of WoW on twitch is not reflective of its player base at all. Or you could take any popular Korean/Asian MMO into account, which don't really have a viewership on twitch, but have players in the millions.


It does show a lot ingame aswell in WOW, LFG is way more dead right now than it is when WOW is like top 5 on Twitch.
More people stream it = more people play it.
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 18:23    Post subject:
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2021 18:48    Post subject:
Yondaime wrote:
Streamers aren't going to save this trainwreck though.
I called it when I tried the first "beta" event more than a year ago, the second "beta" event reaffirmed it and this post launch lulz is just icing on the cake.

Most people will have left the game in two months or so.

There's no coming back for it unless they rework most of the game, and that's years of work.


Yeah this game is a lost cause unfortunately. People are literally coming up with new ways to dupe constantly now Laughing
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0wen




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2021 04:20    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
suffered all the way to lvl 25 but no more!

this game is atrocious in so many ways it's not even funny.

and apart from all the game-design sins committted the worst part is it seems they made it EXTRA tedious/painful on PURPOSE?!

wtf is up with having an extra currency to fast travel (which you ironically earn by completing quests which in turn will have you do the same backtracking from a to b ad nauseam)... or a stash that is SPLIT between each settlement requiring yet more stupid travelling back and forth)....

will check back in a year or so but for now, fuck this game


I stopped at level 26 as the fast travel costs and all the backtracking just got annoying. I was playing solo though so maybe if I had a dedicated group of friends and we all were running the story together I would have kept going.

It is just not the sort of game you can hop on for 5 or 10 minutes and run a mission since you will be running to most mission locations for that whole time.
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cyklon




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2021 06:59    Post subject:
Wanted to try this, but instead bought ESO for around 3,5€. Great game for this value. If anyone seeks casual mmorpg, that would be my recomendation.
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highfe




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2021 09:09    Post subject:
ESO best mmo with uncle diego account, stuff in pay-shop literally cost 1/10 of the price in germany Laughing
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lametta




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2021 04:32    Post subject:
Apparently this:
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Cheaters that are getting banned are reporting on reddit that they are immediately able to play the game after being banned by simply using family share.

So you can play with a banned acc and vreate a new character or:

Quote:
All it takes to get around a ban is changing the email adress associated with your steam acc.


Thats pretty critical if true...
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tet666




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2021 09:20    Post subject:
cyklon wrote:
Wanted to try this, but instead bought ESO for around 3,5€. Great game for this value. If anyone seeks casual mmorpg, that would be my recomendation.


Yeah it's pretty great especially with an arg steam account as someone already mentioned, combat is a bit janky (it never bothered me personally) but it has some of the best pve content in the genre and pvp is not that far behind either.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2021 13:29    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
Apparently this:
Quote:
Cheaters that are getting banned are reporting on reddit that they are immediately able to play the game after being banned by simply using family share.

So you can play with a banned acc and vreate a new character or:

Quote:
All it takes to get around a ban is changing the email adress associated with your steam acc.


Thats pretty critical if true...


The email change is apparently false atleast Laughing
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Nodrim




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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Nov 2021 13:06    Post subject:
my fishbot friend got permanbanned and his appeal denied, lol, he quit his amazon prime now too haha, so funny how some people think and how some things link economically Laughing

so at least they doing something okayish catching botters n permabanning straight away n no lame warnings first
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Nov 2021 14:22    Post subject:
I wouldn't praise them on the way they handled this in general. That automatic banning was such a terrible idea.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Nov 2021 16:30    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
my fishbot friend got permanbanned and his appeal denied, lol, he quit his amazon prime now too haha, so funny how some people think and how some things link economically Laughing

so at least they doing something okayish catching botters n permabanning straight away n no lame warnings first


Plenty of dupers and shit out there that got like 24h bans lol

They are doing jack shit.
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Sep 2022 14:10    Post subject:


This is a rather meaty update. A huge revamp is coming to the map, story and quests (at least level 1-25 areas).
New weapon: greatsword
New enemies
New area
Faction quests and HQ
Ultimates
Random encounters
etc.
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pho08




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Sep 2022 15:02    Post subject:
is it though...?

played this at launch and never made it past level 10 or so... too much grindy shit
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Sep 2022 15:45    Post subject:
I couldnt get back into it if I tried.
We tried really hard to like it, think we got a couple hundred hours or so into it until we just couldn't be motivated to login anymore.

-Combat is...meh. Pick a weapon, get 3 attacks all vaguely same same just different effects for same end result. That was the biggest kilter for me. After I unlocked the 3 attack slots for a weapon I felt like nothing worth doing as I got all the unlocks. Sure there is other things to put into it, but they dont feel different enough other than: start fight, press 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 1 (until it dies).

-Crafting is so simplified its mind numbing. And this is just me talking but I like to have to invest time into crafting. This is "walk up, hit button, make 4000 boards" long as you have the mats. No depth to it at all.

-Global market so people didnt have to spend 2 minutes traveling to get cheaper mats/gear/whatever ruined the enjoyment of being a market merchant. Find a good place to sell goods because stocks stay low? NO MORE everywhere sells everything from anywhere.


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pho08




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Sep 2022 15:49    Post subject:
thank you for the reality check
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Sep 2022 16:06    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
is it though...?

played this at launch and never made it past level 10 or so... too much grindy shit


The leveling experience is horrendous. These improvements are welcomed.
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spajdr




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Sep 2022 16:09    Post subject:
After I saw an animation of a character with a two-handed hammer that looks like it weighs 200g I immediately uninstalled the game.
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Sep 2022 16:20    Post subject:


Rolling Eyes
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pho08




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2023 15:18    Post subject:

meh# ..too late too little
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2023 19:42    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:

meh# ..too late too little


They did plenty last year.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2023 20:07    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:

meh# ..too late too little


Season pass Laughing
Gotta cashgrab while you still can before the game is completely dead.
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Boneleech




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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Feb 2023 20:40    Post subject:
Been wanting to play it, is it full on PVP or can I just chill when I play?


Always noticed full PVP servers, bring out the children and the internet tough guys.
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