One of the sequels, I cant even remember which one was just the same 20 minute scene repeated with different backdrops essentially:
Characters sitting around being 'super serious' spouting exposition about how 'deep' the lore complexity of the matrix is, followed by them doing a slow-mo fight scene in a different room than the last fight scene...repeat like 4-5 times.
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Always hated it, long before the crack and smack. The philosophy is retarded and makes no sense. Ergo, most of the plot makes no sense to anyone that sits and think about it. Concordantly, while the first movie may seem to you to be the most interesting, you may or may not realize it is also the worst, because it is conceptually bankrupt. The sequels forgo any philosophical pretense, thus becoming the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the idea of action flicks. They are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite its sincerest efforts to evoke thought, it is unable to eliminate ridicule from what is otherwise a harmony of OK action scenes.
Fair enough. What made me enjoy much more the first film is that it was a masterfully executed fresh take on the sci-fi action flick and that they didn't put as much effort in trying (and failing) to explain the Matrix and the "motivations" of the machines like in the 2nd and 3td movies. For me it just felt really fluid and smooth from start to end, contrary to the sequels (which still managed to keep me entertained).
Always hated it, long before the crack and smack. The philosophy is retarded and makes no sense. Ergo, most of the plot makes no sense to anyone that sits and think about it. Concordantly, while the first movie may seem to you to be the most interesting, you may or may not realize it is also the worst, because it is conceptually bankrupt. The sequels forgo any philosophical pretense, thus becoming the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the idea of action flicks. They are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite its sincerest efforts to evoke thought, it is unable to eliminate ridicule from what is otherwise a harmony of OK action scenes.
I have to give this comment a 10/10. I don't like giving it a 10/10, but it is a 10/10.
It had more philosophy than the average action flick, but a thought/provoking masterpiece it is not. I do think it as a very good intersection of lore, style and action, and it came about at a disctinct moment in time, when it all made sense.
It is similar to Depeche Mode in a way. Depeche Mode has an absurd following in eastern europe, and so does the Matrix. Eastern europe in the 90s is not in a happy place. Young people living there already know enough about the western world to be able to compare themselves to it, and that evokes a certain response. Depeche Mode resonates with that (in a cinical way), but the Matrix also resonated with it, in a more hope ful way.
Ignoring the highfalutin presentation and exposition presentation of the first, including the obnoxious melodramatic string screeches, the plot premise is very simplistic. A group of outliers feel uncomfortable in their environment (the reason is of unimportance), so they embark on a quest to ruin it for everyone. Soe edgy and deep, much philosophy, such amazomg. Cypher is the only character that makes sense.
In contrast, the sequels know their philosophy is so light on fat that they don’t take themselves anywhere as seriously, even in scenes of exposition dumps, such as the infamous “Ergo concordantly” Architect scene. That scene is as ridiculous as it is on purpose.
The soundtrack of the sequels was also much more enjoyable than the original. The techno tracks by Juno Reactor were really great, whereas the Don Davis string screeches got old old even before the flick was released.
i watched them way back then and never again. the first one i remember the least as there arent that many great scenes. 2 and 3 on the other hand has great action and sountrack that still i remember like i watched them yesterday.
was thinking on watching them before 4 but all that zion shit was kinda meh
These movies were a product of their time, ushering in new special effects to the likes we hadn't seen. Overstylised 90's tropes all over the place, the jackets, glasses, soundtrack, comic book poses and slowmo etc. Loved these movies when they came out, but I cringe watching any of them today.
and i have no interest in a cash grab member spoon, member oracle blah blah.
There's the really good movie The Thirteenth Floor (1999) which had the ultimate bad luck of being released months after The Matrix (1999) which led to it being buried under The Matrix popularity. And of course the classic Dark City.
I'll hold my judgment about Matrix 4 until I've watched it. I'm avoiding trailers, seen screenshots and a teaser. My expectations aren't very high though.
There's the really good movie The Thirteenth Floor (1999) which had the ultimate bad luck of being released months after The Matrix (1999) which led to it being buried under The Matrix popularity. And of course the classic Dark City.
I'll hold my judgment about Matrix 4 until I've watched it. I'm avoiding trailers, seen screenshots and a teaser. My expectations aren't very high though.
Yeah, The Thirteenth Floor is excellent and very underrated! I like it more than Dark City, even.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
Will this get isodemo tomorrow ? like 4k hdr isodemo.
HBO Max is not out here and the cinema is booked af
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This aged so well, I had to leave it here once more
Some franchises deserve to rest.
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lmao you dont even know what the movie is about yet you already know your opinion on it
and dont tell me there are leaks etc as many times whats written vs how its executed can be night and day
Matrix had a distinct wire-fu aesthetic, that was well thought out, unique and refreshing. You could see that in the movie, but it came across loud and clear from the trailer beforehand.
Just like now it comes across loud and clear, that this is B-side Marvel. Just look at the effects. Look at the quality of the actors.
Some things you can simply tell from trailers. Like the mood, the aesthetic, the atmosphere, the general vibe.
Well, there is the usual Sand Vaginas who will down vote anything these days unless it's a White Supremacy movie and then ofc. there is the bots.
Fuck em!
Honestly, the movie isn’t a good movie. Once you look past the memberberries, its so full of bad cliches and missed opportunities its not even close to the first movie. Most of the actors are subpar. There is close to zero tension, action scenes are all over the place, very underwhelming, the design is just boring, and everything happens exactly as you can predict. Just wasted potential.
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