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Then ill watch english. I always watch original language... unless its russian or polish etc.
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wouldn't Comanche be original language and English for the non subtitle people?
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2022 02:31 Post subject: |
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Its not heavy on dialog or authenticity.. its a predator movie. I would just watch the standard English release.
They didn't need to re-use that line from the original movie. Does hearing a line from classic movie give people a hard-on or something? are you supposed to feel big brain because you member a line from a movie?.. why do directors insist these scenes be ion every movie.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2022 04:11 Post subject: |
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8/10
solid. subs are fucked on my end. English = English. french = french. Comanche = Comanche. lol. you can figure out what they're saying by their actions so it's not that annoying.
action is good. VFX do be cheap. more please.
gimme Egypt, africa during slave trade, one of them dynasties in China, some ninja shit, samurai, shoguns bring it on.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2022 23:44 Post subject: |
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I guess they make a decent Predator film every 25 years so it will be a while till the next one. Setting this film in the past really helped the movie a lot but hopefully it does not become like the Assassin Creed thing where they go ok, next film let's do Predator vs Vikings.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Aug 2022 00:07 Post subject: |
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Predator vs. Vikings sounds pretty badass tbh.
"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.
Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Aug 2022 04:07 Post subject: |
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I really enjoyed this, would put it second in the series behind the classic original, although I also enjoyed 'Predators' from 2010 despite its poor reviews. Great acting, action and all you'd expect from a Predator movie. More gore and higher production values than I was expecting. The Predator creature was genuinely menacing again rather than the self-parody it had become in some of the sequels. Bit of a sudden finale but probably intentional.
All in all, very pleasant surprise of a movie. Although do watch the 2010 Predators if you haven't seen it yet.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Aug 2022 08:24 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | 8/10
solid. subs are fucked on my end. English = English. french = french. Comanche = Comanche. lol. you can figure out what they're saying by their actions so it's not that annoying. |
Nope, it's pretty much how they have extracted from the main stream I suppose. This was very jarring and I'm not sure why they decided to not use translations when English subs are enabled. The French dialogue was way more than the Comanche one.
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Aug 2022 13:22 Post subject: |
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| Shawn_Hunter wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: | 8/10
solid. subs are fucked on my end. English = English. french = french. Comanche = Comanche. lol. you can figure out what they're saying by their actions so it's not that annoying. |
Nope, it's pretty much how they have extracted from the main stream I suppose. This was very jarring and I'm not sure why they decided to not use translations when English subs are enabled. The French dialogue was way more than the Comanche one. |
It feels like the French part being unsubbed was on purpose, so you are like Naru not understanding what they are saying.
There have been many times these streaming services screw up the subs so I guess no one can be certain till they either update the current version they are streaming or till the Bluray/Digital version goes on sale. I am not going to watch it again though just to see what the French part actually said as it was most likely, "Run, this monster is killing us all."
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| Posted: Sun, 7th Aug 2022 23:41 Post subject: |
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This opens well. A woman discriminated against who's gonna prove herself to be better than the rest. Where have we seen this before? Yep, every god damn american movie with a female protagonist.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 00:33 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | This opens well. A woman discriminated against who's gonna prove herself to be better than the rest. Where have we seen this before? Yep, every god damn american movie with a female protagonist. |
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 00:34 Post subject: |
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| Przepraszam wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | This opens well. A woman discriminated against who's gonna prove herself to be better than the rest. Where have we seen this before? Yep, every god damn american movie with a female protagonist. |
What? |
What?
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 00:52 Post subject: |
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Loved this!
The french was terrible though.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 01:13 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | This opens well. A woman discriminated against who's gonna prove herself to be better than the rest. Where have we seen this before? Yep, every god damn american movie with a female protagonist. |
man don't hate on Sarah Connor like that.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 01:19 Post subject: |
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Finished it. Whats the hype? Not good, not bad. Just painfully average. No connection to the characters, action was alright and the movie didnt have much else. 6/10 at best
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 01:50 Post subject: |
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| 0wen wrote: | | Shawn_Hunter wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: | 8/10
solid. subs are fucked on my end. English = English. french = french. Comanche = Comanche. lol. you can figure out what they're saying by their actions so it's not that annoying. |
Nope, it's pretty much how they have extracted from the main stream I suppose. This was very jarring and I'm not sure why they decided to not use translations when English subs are enabled. The French dialogue was way more than the Comanche one. |
It feels like the French part being unsubbed was on purpose, so you are like Naru not understanding what they are saying.
There have been many times these streaming services screw up the subs so I guess no one can be certain till they either update the current version they are streaming or till the Bluray/Digital version goes on sale. I am not going to watch it again though just to see what the French part actually said as it was most likely, "Run, this monster is killing us all." |
Indeed the director has confirmed he doesn't want you to understand what the French are saying, exactly like Naru. https://gizmodo.com/prey-movie-predator-hulu-fury-road-star-wars-comanche-1849357817
| Quote: | | Trachtenberg: And something that I’m really excited about, I will say, is that there are no subtitles at all in the movie. We are very linked to [the main character] Naru and her experience of the story. And so even when those French bird trappers show up, it’s as foreign to us as it is to her, unless you speak French. But even still if you speak French, because they’re speaking such a very specific version of French, it’s not going to be cogent to most folks. So I think language still plays a very specific role even in the original release of the movie. |
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 02:01 Post subject: |
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That was my impression while watching also since it sounded weird even though i know no french
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 02:36 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | This opens well. A woman discriminated against who's gonna prove herself to be better than the rest. Where have we seen this before? Yep, every god damn american movie with a female protagonist. |
And every american movie with a male protagonist? Or is the male thats gonna prove himself to be better than the rest just the expected so not noticed?
Rambo? yep. [the literal epitome of it, written to be so]
Indiana Jones? Yep.
Die Hard (the first ones)? Yep.
The Matrix? Yep.
Total Recall? Yep.
Star Wars (luke). Yep.
For example, it's pretty much the entire premise of the narrative purpose of batman...everyone mostly discriminates him as a lowly vignantee breaking laws and needs to be removed, other than a handful of people he has proven himself to.
All starting as 'nobody's' everyone underestimates and goes on to prove they are strong enough to be the protagonist we expect.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 02:42 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | 0wen wrote: | | Shawn_Hunter wrote: |
Nope, it's pretty much how they have extracted from the main stream I suppose. This was very jarring and I'm not sure why they decided to not use translations when English subs are enabled. The French dialogue was way more than the Comanche one. |
It feels like the French part being unsubbed was on purpose, so you are like Naru not understanding what they are saying.
There have been many times these streaming services screw up the subs so I guess no one can be certain till they either update the current version they are streaming or till the Bluray/Digital version goes on sale. I am not going to watch it again though just to see what the French part actually said as it was most likely, "Run, this monster is killing us all." |
Indeed the director has confirmed he doesn't want you to understand what the French are saying, exactly like Naru. https://gizmodo.com/prey-movie-predator-hulu-fury-road-star-wars-comanche-1849357817
| Quote: | | Trachtenberg: And something that I’m really excited about, I will say, is that there are no subtitles at all in the movie. We are very linked to [the main character] Naru and her experience of the story. And so even when those French bird trappers show up, it’s as foreign to us as it is to her, unless you speak French. But even still if you speak French, because they’re speaking such a very specific version of French, it’s not going to be cogent to most folks. So I think language still plays a very specific role even in the original release of the movie. |
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knowing this is a huge bonus. I'll rewatch without subs and maybe the dubbed version. that'll be an experience. it being intentional raises my score by .5. \o/
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 05:21 Post subject: |
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Watched it myself and was pleasently surprised about the Movie. Was decent but the only issue i have with it are the Final blow on the Predator and that she...
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Also about the Final blow, isnt it stupid that the angle was exactly the right one when he got stuck in the mud that it aims directly at his head. I mean he has used his darts beforehand without the helmet and laserpointer and all the times the darts went to another destination. Seems pretty braindead and cheap to me when you see his hunting skills and scenes beforehand. |
Apart from these 2 issues id say its a solid movie, nothing exceptional.
7/10 for me
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 07:51 Post subject: |
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| DaLexy wrote: | Watched it myself and was pleasently surprised about the Movie. Was decent but the only issue i have with it are the Final blow on the Predator and that she...
| Spoiler: | ...gets the same gun in the end as Danny Glover in Predator 2 (my fav of the series)
Also about the Final blow, isnt it stupid that the angle was exactly the right one when he got stuck in the mud that it aims directly at his head. I mean he has used his darts beforehand without the helmet and laserpointer and all the times the darts went to another destination. Seems pretty braindead and cheap to me when you see his hunting skills and scenes beforehand. |
Apart from these 2 issues id say its a solid movie, nothing exceptional.
7/10 for me |
When talking ab out the mud scene. I was only thinking about how smoothly he was rising up from it and just held a certain height. HOW? He certainly sunk all the way, so unless he has some jetpack boots that works even after becoming wet i have no clue how that happened.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 08:26 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | This opens well. A woman discriminated against who's gonna prove herself to be better than the rest. Where have we seen this before? Yep, every god damn american movie with a female protagonist. |
And every american movie with a male protagonist? Or is the male thats gonna prove himself to be better than the rest just the expected so not noticed?
Rambo? yep.
Indiana Jones? Yep.
Die Hard (the first ones)? Yep.
The Matrix? Yep.
Total Recall? Yep. |
In what way are these characters discriminated against where they feel they have to go on to prove themselves? In the same way as this film?
Most are so confident in their abilities that they just get on with it. In Rambo's case he is keen not to prove himself until he is pushed to the limit. And even then he just wants everyone to fuck off. This is not the same at all
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 10:06 Post subject: |
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lol all the subtitles comments.. meh deep and complex predator characters and dialog..
This is one of the few movies where lack of dialog is okay, movie score would be +1 if they cut the 5second scene where indian man says the predator 1 line.
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 10:14 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | In what way are these characters discriminated against where they feel they have to go on to prove themselves? In the same way as this film?
Most are so confident in their abilities that they just get on with it. In Rambo's case he is keen not to prove himself until he is pushed to the limit. And even then he just wants everyone to fuck off. This is not the same at all |
Do you want me to synapsis every film?
You picked rambo so let's go with that one. It is the core story: of a war vet outcast underdog, and outside of society acceptance being a vagabond and him being discriminated against to the point of fighting back.
What was the pushing in 'until he is pushed' from? It was he was discriminated against because the sheriff labeled him a hippie loser, and told him he wasn't welcome and to leave town. Not sure what your definition of discriminated against is... 
And he COULD have left town, with no problems. but he disobeys the sheriff's order to stay away from town gets charged and his subsequent rampage culminates in him returning to town with guns and bombs from a commandeered Army truck. This results in the destruction of the sheriff's office and more of the town's main street. Rambo stands poised to eliminate the sheriff, but Trautman finally confronts Rambo face-to-face, and ultimately convinces his former soldier to surrender to the authorities.
(some parts snipped from the plot on wiki).
Dunno sounds like someone discriminated against that needs to prove they are not someone to fuck with and passed the point of wanting to be left alone, to wanting retribution to overcome it and have it over with to me...
If Rambo never existed, and someone made it word for word dialog the same today but with a female lead I feel the sentiment of "Oh god, assumed weak wahmen shows she is stronk pandering movie again", would be repeated for it. (not the mention some form of "Wahman, emotional overreacting AmIRite??" tossed in somewhere.)
And I assume you mean in this movie, shes DOESNT want or would like the predator to ever just fuck off? Every predator movie (not shit one) starts off: We wish it would leave us alone, it wont, we have to kill it. Lets show it that we/they/us/them/humans won't take no shit and are warriors too!
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 15:12 Post subject: |
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It’s nice that you completely dodged the ‘In the same way as this film?’ qualifier, as you ran off rambling about only half of the argument. None of those are in any way the same as this. The dumbest part is that you are right when it comes to underdog movies with male or female protagonists, but your examples aren’t relevant.
Insert any character you mentioned into stormwolf’s post to see how ridiculous it sounds. Who would Indiana even be proving he was better than? John McClaine??? These characters have entirely different motivations and purposes. You’re so desperate to go against certain perceived agendas that nonsense is starting to leak out.
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Who would Indiana even be proving he was better than? John McClaine???
The...antagonists?
Indiana it's René Belloq, John it's Hans Gruber. [both movies the villain loses because they start out underestimating the hero as a non-threat peon to even worry about to some degree or the other] partially why people watch it, people doing things to overcome an antagonist that we as normal people would not have to moxy to try.
Matrix is literally 1/2 the movie of an average joe office worker that is having to be convinced he is digital jesus and others showing him he is better than the system until he starts doing it himself. All the while the system/matrix itself berating him and treating him like shit that he is nothing important.
But we can agree to disagree and stick with just predator movies then? Every one other than the weird shit one with the sci-fi lab is a protagonist proving to this 'scary alien thing' humans are not some low tech monkey to be fucking with, a human ego stroking story of "You may have sci-fi tools, but you dont have what we have..determination and a bigger fighters spirit than you..spooky alien game hunter. You hunted the wrong planet this time asshole (monkey chest beating in audience commences)"
This movie follows nothing gender/race/whatever based messaging people are finding it somehow, just its not the same old trope characters that usually do these same old tropes. Any race/gender can and has done them.. Someone 'not on the bell curve of expected is doing them' is all.
It's simply the age old "Heroes' Journey" that's been used 1000's of times for 100's of years. That's my point. That everyone I listed, and this one. Is just doing that circle of steps. The ones I mentioned is just some variation of 2-3 steps of it they all use:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Aug 2022 17:54 Post subject: |
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jesus.
male characters in action movies don't have to prove themselves, but they're usually underestimated by the antagonists. john mclaine just a cop, Rambo, just a soldier, Indiana Jones, just a archeologist etc etc etc. they prove themselves to us.
Sarah Conner needs to prove herself and fight.
Ripley is an exception since it's was a genderless role.
this chick has to prove her self since she wants to step out of the confines of being a Whamen in her tribe. that's it. just a curious kid who wants to do more.
everyone views her as weak and she is. she can't beat predator by herself. he needed to get whacked about a few times and she had to be smarts. like every Whamen centric protagonist. put in a role/position outside of their comfort zone and use their Whamen brains. just think slasher films like Halloween, Jason, Freddy, etc where the Whamen has to survive.
stop arguing. lol. if you pick apart any more God damn bombastic action movies from my youth I will personally discredit all your favorite shit
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I watched it years ago.
