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vurt




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 00:21    Post subject:
Oh just fuck off, i'm not gonna bother with your posts ever again DX, not even interested in reading it.

You've proven around 50 times already with our endless discussions that you're one of the stupidest people i've ever encountered on a forum. There's also no point in arguing with you because there's ZERO chance of me agreeing with any of your absolutely retarded takes. So there.

Kids and transgenderism and parents, celebreties, advocating it - even schools or other grown ups in their surrounding, it is very disturbing, it ruins lives more than it helps anyone who's still not sure about their sexuality. And kids not sure these days, wow, i can understand them with all the brainwashing that's going on everywhere, in schools, from the goverment, from celebs..

kids are kids, and they go with trends, its in their nature. Its fine if its clothing or music or a game genre, because it's easy to switch, a sex transplant, not so much.. Kids CHANGE a lot because they're still GROWING. It's why we call them KIDS. That's really all i have to say about it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 00:39    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Oh just fuck off, i'm not gonna bother with your posts ever again DX, not even interested in reading it.

Then put me on ignore, or if thats too much hassle set a temp password so I can login as you and do it to save you the effort.
Having a discussion, if hearing from people other than those that share your view is 'hassle' put in earplugs to block me, to save you the bother of hearing people other than those that nod in agreement.

I'm trying to give a viewpoint from someone that has known people like this for 20+ years, to someone that knows none.
If I had preconceived notions about say, Irish farmers but never talked to one about what its like. Would be absurd for me to tell someone that grew up in Ireland's farmland to 'fuck off' with his info about Irish farmers because his information doesnt match what I assumed they was like.

Yes the pop culture latching onto it absurdly IS blowing it out of proportion. But to say they caused it is being ignorant of in which order the horse and cart go.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 01:18    Post subject:
The trans thing is at present 10% legit and 90% social contagion. You can see this in the huge rise of girls now identifying as the other sex, compared to boys where the curve has mostly flattened after a steep increase a couple of years ago.
Neither side is capable of a nuanced view of this issue. Gender-affirmers want to trans every self-diagnosed kid right away, the gender-criticals are going for an all out ban of medical interventions on minors.
The right course of action would be tighter controls to weed out those just going through a phase and giving the legit ones the treatment they need.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 01:52    Post subject:
@Shocktrooper
Very true.
But I feel, my own subjective perception, the 10/90 is a bit off. It seems more prevalent now because what was very taboo to admit, is now slightly more acceptable.
Sort of like people (mostly older I know) saying when they was young in the 50-60s there wasn't nearly as many gay people as now a days. There was, you just didnt know who was because they was shunned from say it. It's not the number of gays grew, its the number willing to say it did.

But I do admit the hype around over compensation 'to make up for lost time' by the extremist on the side for it, is overshadowing an issue that has long existed and drowning out and blurring being able to reasonability see that it IS a larger group of people than most think (because of the taboo 'dont say anything' that existed before).

Causing those that appose it to deny the entire thing has any merit, because of reacting to the equally loud and absurd opposite side, both ignoring the actual people in the middle that are dealing with being that.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 16:29    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 17:26    Post subject:
Laughing Holy duck !

@Shock & DXW : Agree with the sentiment even though the ratio seems a bit off to me as well.. Razz It does strike me as something somewhat trendy in certain parts of the US (and we all know how permeable kids are to trends.. they forget about them as quickly as they learnt about it usually, though) but.. not so much elsewhere ?
I might be ignorant of specific countries though, but the whole ordeal doesn't appear to me as a foundation-shattering issue around here in the slightest. It's a subject of high debate in medical communities, which it should regarding how critical it is ; but it's still far from being trendy to come out as anything but CIS. Ironically, one pleased with such a situation may thank the thin-veiled influence of certain communities in keeping things.. traditional.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 17:50    Post subject:
Jesus fuck, what happened to experimenting when you're young? Just because a kid wants to try some cock, don't make him gay...

I know of a few cases actually, where parents push their kids for gender change, and these children are mentally completely fucked.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 18:09    Post subject:
It's a very complex subject which in turn deserves a complex and nuanced answer at various levels (medical both biology and psychology-wise, sociological, etc), and I'm fairly sure not many of us can safely talk about it with an actually informed point of view. We'd basically need a directed debate of we actually want to discuss our views, it's such a minefield to navigate..
Is this the right thread for this though ? Feels like GamerGate is one slippy enough topic in its own regard Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 18:15    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 21:18    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
TheZor wrote:
Is this the right thread for this though ?


It's perfect!
heh heh
Little paxa saw that yesterday was trans kid parents day (because regular father's or mother's day is considered, guess what, twansphobic!!!1!1!1) and decided to set the thread on fire Troll Dad


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 21:22    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2022 21:29    Post subject:
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Maybe we can still indoctrinate them to an unhealthy life of self-doubt and self-hate and self guilt and force them to live lies by mating with the opposite sex and have children, because our religion needs to win the growth competition with the Muslims.

Laughing Right?
Scenario put forth as postulation:
Forcing straight kids to be gay? Outlandishly shocking and a gross perverse injustice to children.
Forcing gay kids to be straight? Well you know they should be anyway. They should thank us actually, we are fixing thier mental illness.

And I am sure there IS some parents, teachers, pedos[?] (no idea where this came from other that gluing two 'eww' factors together) forcing straight kids to be trans/gay out there somewhere. But to even hint that its the majority, or even a reasonably countable minority is like saying the reasons so many kids listen to modern rap is because thier parents purposely groomed them to. I'm sure SOME did (ill teach you to like what I like and you must only listen to this), but to say its the cause of raps popularity is laughable.

And this whole "its trendy to do so kids will do it" is retarded. Do people ACTUALLY think there is straight kids out there wanting to transition, and have sex with the same gender out of simply wanting to fit in?
When you was 15 [assuming you are straight and zero desire for men] would you have publicly and openly banged another guy and told everyone you can that you did, just to impress your friends? If not why would todays kids? It is some sort of superior adults' bias that when you was kids age, vs kids now..they are more weak willed and desperate for social acceptance than your 'better' generation of kids? (hint no..no they are not. The social playground is different sure, but the growing pains and thought process and cognitive ability of choice limits for 'finding your flock' while being a teen is the same).

Is peer pressure something FAR worse off than it always has been? Is there a concerning number of straight teen boys out there going "You know, I dont like dick. But its the hot thing to do right now, I will bang a dude. Hey man wanna have sex? We both wont like it, but it seems its the new trend..sooo" Out there blowing a classmate in the bathroom while thinking: OMG...this is horrible, I have a cock in my mouth, I hope my friends and twitter likes me after doing this.


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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Nov 2022 20:03    Post subject:
Sabine is always an enjoyable watch. Didn't expect her to want to weigh in on this subject. But her analysis of it was a well done synopsis of it.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 18:32    Post subject:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-stanford-guide-to-acceptable-words-elimination-of-harmful-language-initiative-11671489552


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Parodists have it rough these days, since so much of modern life and culture resembles the Babylon Bee. The latest evidence is that Stanford University administrators in May published an index of forbidden words to be eliminated from the school’s websites and computer code, and provided inclusive replacements to help re-educate the benighted.


Call yourself an “American”? Please don’t. Better to say “U.S. citizen,” per the bias hunters, lest you slight the rest of the Americas. “Immigrant” is also out, with “person who has immigrated” as the approved alternative. It’s the iron law of academic writing: Why use one word when four will do?

You can’t “master” your subject at Stanford any longer; in case you hadn’t heard, the school instructs that “historically, masters enslaved people.” And don’t dare design a “blind study,” which “unintentionally perpetuates that disability is somehow abnormal or negative, furthering an ableist culture.” Blind studies are good and useful, but never mind; “masked study” is to be preferred. Follow the science.

“Gangbusters” is banned because the index says it “invokes the notion of police action against ‘gangs’ in a positive light, which may have racial undertones.” Not to beat a dead horse (a phrase that the index says “normalizes violence against animals”), but you used to have to get a graduate degree in the humanities to write something that stupid.

The Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative is a “multi-phase” project of Stanford’s IT leaders. The list took “18 months of collaboration with stakeholder groups” to produce, the university tells us. We can’t imagine what’s next, except that it will surely involve more make-work for more administrators, whose proliferation has driven much of the rise in college tuition and student debt. For 16,937 students, Stanford lists 2,288 faculty and 15,750 administrative staff.

The list was prefaced with (to use another forbidden word) a trigger warning: “This website contains language that is offensive or harmful. Please engage with this website at your own pace.”

Evidently it was all too much for some at the school to handle. On Monday, after the index came to light on social media, Stanford hid it from public view. Without a password, you wouldn’t know that “stupid” made the list.



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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 22:08    Post subject:
@tonizito
Not arguing against it or you. To be fair that one of 'american' always seemed odd to me since I was a kid. Not from an offensive way on any level. So no the same reason they want to say we shouldn't use it.

I do it too all the time, because its second nature and so ambiguous here.
But American to denote the US, seemed logically ambiguous. Do you mean North America? Which part? US or Canada? No? Maybe mexico, or one of the dozens of south american countries.

Sort of like someone from France, asking someone from Belarus where they are from because they cannot place the accent and getting: Im European.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 22:45    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-stanford-guide-to-acceptable-words-elimination-of-harmful-language-initiative-11671489552


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Parodists have it rough these days, since so much of modern life and culture resembles the Babylon Bee. The latest evidence is that Stanford University administrators in May published an index of forbidden words to be eliminated from the school’s websites and computer code, and provided inclusive replacements to help re-educate the benighted.


Call yourself an “American”? Please don’t. Better to say “U.S. citizen,” per the bias hunters, lest you slight the rest of the Americas. “Immigrant” is also out, with “person who has immigrated” as the approved alternative. It’s the iron law of academic writing: Why use one word when four will do?

You can’t “master” your subject at Stanford any longer; in case you hadn’t heard, the school instructs that “historically, masters enslaved people.” And don’t dare design a “blind study,” which “unintentionally perpetuates that disability is somehow abnormal or negative, furthering an ableist culture.” Blind studies are good and useful, but never mind; “masked study” is to be preferred. Follow the science.

“Gangbusters” is banned because the index says it “invokes the notion of police action against ‘gangs’ in a positive light, which may have racial undertones.” Not to beat a dead horse (a phrase that the index says “normalizes violence against animals”), but you used to have to get a graduate degree in the humanities to write something that stupid.

The Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative is a “multi-phase” project of Stanford’s IT leaders. The list took “18 months of collaboration with stakeholder groups” to produce, the university tells us. We can’t imagine what’s next, except that it will surely involve more make-work for more administrators, whose proliferation has driven much of the rise in college tuition and student debt. For 16,937 students, Stanford lists 2,288 faculty and 15,750 administrative staff.

The list was prefaced with (to use another forbidden word) a trigger warning: “This website contains language that is offensive or harmful. Please engage with this website at your own pace.”

Evidently it was all too much for some at the school to handle. On Monday, after the index came to light on social media, Stanford hid it from public view. Without a password, you wouldn’t know that “stupid” made the list.



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What the fuck. This is insane.


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PostPosted: Tue, 20th Dec 2022 23:49    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
What the fuck. This is insane.

[Ableist language that trivializes the experiences of people living with mental health conditions detected]

Please use surprising/wild instead!
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st Dec 2022 01:13    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
couleur wrote:
What the fuck. This is insane.

[Ableist language that trivializes the experiences of people living with mental health conditions detected]

Not a parallel more of a tangent.
But it reminds me of this:


While I disagree with some on here on the severity of legitimacy of some marginalized/minority groups of peoples and issues and challenges they face.

I feel I agree on the most part that, the language thing comes down to the old sticks and stones thing. Its like george carlin says but in this case, the people with the problem with it are the ones doing it. it doesn't help it actually hurts the cause if anything. You are hiding the intent of purpose of the thing you want to fix, by change the language to be softer and more avoidable/comfortable of the very thing you have an issue with. Seems counters.


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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Dec 2022 17:45    Post subject:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/elon-musk-likely-to-step-down-from-twitter-no-politics.1648115/page-7#post-267207475

Meanwhile on Neoshite... don't question the admin aka Derplore over Murikah and the pew pew rights or else



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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Dec 2022 19:35    Post subject:
Mindblowing that the nutter from REEEEEEsetera managed to sell that shithole for a couple of million and ride into the sunset while that neogaf retard elf is still reeeeeeing online on that (other) barren shithole Surprised


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tonizito wrote:
Mindblowing that the nutter from REEEEEEsetera managed to sell that shithole for a couple of million and ride into the sunset while that neogaf retard elf is still reeeeeeing online on that (other) barren shithole Surprised

Wonder if Elflore is holding out for an offer higher than that of RE or if he likes people worshiping him Laughing



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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Dec 2022 21:34    Post subject:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/old-interview-in-2012-evilore-turned-down-5-000-000-to-keep-control-of-neogaf.822976/page-5
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[Old Interview] In 2012, EviLore turned down $5,000,000 to keep control of NeoGAF

Offered double since
The latter, assuming that info above isn't bullshit Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Dec 2022 21:52    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
on that (other) barren shithole Surprised

How now, quit ragging on barren shitholes. I think for example we have a rather nice barren shithole here Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Jan 2023 21:44    Post subject:
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2023/01/03/debates-whether-academic-freedom-includes-images-offensive-muslims

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“We have learned, over many years, that knowledge can be shared in a multitude of responsible, thoughtful and respectful ways. Our response to the classroom event does not disregard or minimize the importance of academic freedom. It does state that respect, decency, and appreciation of religious and other differences should supersede when we know that what we teach will cause harm,” Fayneese Miller, the university’s president, and David Everett, associate vice president for inclusive excellence, wrote in a letter to the campus on Dec. 9, which was confirmed as reflecting the university’s position.

“It is not our intent to place blame; rather, it is our intent to note that in the classroom incident—where an image forbidden for Muslims to look upon was projected on a screen and left for many minutes—respect for the observant Muslim students in that classroom should have superseded academic freedom. Many disciplines have embedded within them difficult and controversial theories and material, but as with virtually all subjects, they can be discussed without causing harm. Academic freedom is very important, but it does not have to come at the expense of care and decency toward others,” they added.

The university said that because the instructor was an adjunct, her dismissal was not a firing, as has been said in accounts of the incident in New Lines magazine and Reason.

tags: Retardica, "muh feelings"
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If cuckler gets the axe too he's fucked, no more cocaine money Sad

EDIT:
https://bleedingfool.com/news/what-killed-g4tv-the-full-story/
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