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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 22:58    Post subject:
PAnick wrote:
yeah they also spoil alot of different quests, just so you know.


Thats lame. PC Gamer used to be one of my favourite magazines, but it's been going downhill ever since they reviewed Deus Ex 2.


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shady078




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 23:31    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
PAnick wrote:
yeah they also spoil alot of different quests, just so you know.


Thats lame. PC Gamer used to be one of my favourite magazines, but it's been going downhill ever since they reviewed Deus Ex 2.



they describe about 3-4 quests in detail, more like the overall experience rather than the specifics of how to accomplish something. I thought it was a nice touch to describe some of what they did during the game so readers can get a feel for how it works and plays when they are reading the review
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 23:38    Post subject:
The soundtrack rock.

http://www.directsong.com/
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 23:42    Post subject:
baabeli wrote:
The soundtrack rock.

http://www.directsong.com/


Cool site, is that just Jeremy Soule's stuff, I know he did GW and Ob, but the others?
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 23:50    Post subject:
gtfo with that off-topic chat.

If you dont like the game, stay out of this thread dammit.

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pinox2000
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 23:53    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 23:55    Post subject:
Lol @ Rating Pending on the box.

He doesn't have it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 23:55    Post subject:
I read on the official forums that when you gain vampirism you actually have to drink blood each day or suffer the consequences Smile like turning into a horribly disfigured monster with claws. horned hands and glowing red eyes. who ignites if exposed to sunlight, way to go on bringing some bloodlines into the game bethesda Very Happy .
small spoiler: theres a quest in skingrad to become affliated with a certain vampire clan Wink
oh... funny how you reply to someone and your reply just dissapears?
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 23:57    Post subject:
does anyone know if it's going to be released as multi4 or 5?
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Mar 2006 23:57    Post subject:
pinox2000 wrote:
does anyone know if it's going to be released as multi4 or 5?

nope it's not multilanguaje
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Avengence




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 00:04    Post subject:
They only have a french and german version that are fully translated (voice and text) and they have a few other versions that are just translated text. Since voice acting takes up half the DVD they wont have a multil language version, unless its just text that is translated.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 02:19    Post subject:
pinox2000 wrote:
http://www.fxproductions.dk/OBLIVION.jpg


Haha, worst attempt ever Smile

The paper isnt even straight at the edges and on top of that he has the RP icon Wink



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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 02:29    Post subject:
Hahaha at the picture. If you look at the top left of the box you can see that the cover doesn't go around to the back of the box.

Nice try but no dice.
The real cover art.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/take2store_1887_2547719


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 03:56    Post subject:
Starting Attributes Unveiled
http://www.databecker.de/media/prod/docs/b_cover/441827_bc.pdf

____ STR__ INT__ WILL__ AGL__ SPD__ END__ LUK__ PER__
Nord 50/50 30/30 30/40 40/40 40/40 50/40 50/50 30/30
Redg 50/40 30/30 30/30 40/40 40/40 50/50 50/50 30/40
Brtn 40/30 50/50 50/50 30/30 30/40 30/30 50/50 40/40
Impr 40/40 40/40 30/40 30/30 40/30 40/40 50/50 50/50
WElf 30/30 40/40 30/30 50/50 50/50 40/30 50/50 30/40
HElf 30/30 50/50 40/40 40/40 30/40 40/30 50/50 40/40
DElf 40/40 40/40 30/30 40/40 50/50 40/30 50/50 30/40
Khaj 40/30 40/40 30/30 50/50 40/40 30/40 50/50 40/40
Argo 40/40 40/50 30/40 50/40 50/40 30/30 50/50 30/30
Orc 45/45 30/40 50/45 35/35 30/30 50/50 50/50 30/25
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 04:13    Post subject:
Well thats going to be my first edit then.

Orcs should definitely be the strongest of the races.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 04:49    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Well thats going to be my first edit then.

Orcs should definitely be the strongest of the races.


On one hand, standard mythos has always led us to believe that orcs are savage, stupid, bloodthirsty beasts. This is the popular view among pretty much any RPG I can think of (Everquest, World of Warcraft, Neverwinter Nights, Dungeon Siege etc. etc.)

But, take a moment to step back and remember you are dealing with the T.E.S. series here, which in my opinion has an extremely unique outlook/portrayal of the races featured.

Nord = Strong/Barbaric Human.
Redguard = Strong/Disciplined Human.
Breton = Intellectual Human.
Imperial = Elitist/Charismatic Human.
Wood Elf = Much less emphasis on natural unity than standard RPG stereotype.
High Elf = The most "unchanged" of all the races. Dead on with stereotype.
Dark Elf = Also follows its aggressive/evil stereotype very well.
Khajiit = Sneaky knieving (sp) kitty Very Happy
Argonian = For the life of me..I can't remember what the fuck this race is. Someone help me.

Alas we come to Orc.
Here, it seems Bethesda has made use of their creative license to break convention a little bit.
I tend to think of Orcs in T.E.S. as a gruff yet displaced race, and not necessarily the bloodthirsty brutes that they have the tendency of being portrayed as. I see them as laborers and craftsman as well as the armor clad warriors they are in almost every other game. High End/Willpower shows that they are extremely resillient to not only the physical hardships as Nords are, but also magical damage as well. The ultimate tank if you will. Thus, they trade a bit of strength for a more defensive role. And a tank, remember, gets its name from Damage shrugged off, not damage dissed out.


Boy was I bored. By the time I finished this I forgot where the fuck I was going with it. Anyway, someone describe to me what an Argonian looks like, for try as I might, I can't fuckin remember.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 04:52    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
Well thats going to be my first edit then.

Orcs should definitely be the strongest of the races.


On one hand, standard mythos has always led us to believe that orcs are savage, stupid, bloodthirsty beasts. This is the popular view among pretty much any RPG I can think of (Everquest, World of Warcraft, Neverwinter Nights, Dungeon Siege etc. etc.)

But, take a moment to step back and remember you are dealing with the T.E.S. series here, which in my opinion has an extremely unique outlook/portrayal of the races featured.

Nord = Strong/Barbaric Human.
Redguard = Strong/Disciplined Human.
Breton = Intellectual Human.
Imperial = Elitist/Charismatic Human.
Wood Elf = Much less emphasis on natural unity than standard RPG stereotype.
High Elf = The most "unchanged" of all the races. Dead on with stereotype.
Dark Elf = Also follows its aggressive/evil stereotype very well.
Khajiit = Sneaky knieving (sp) kitty Very Happy
Argonian = For the life of me..I can't remember what the fuck this race is. Someone help me.

Alas we come to Orc.
Here, it seems Bethesda has made use of their creative license to break convention a little bit.
I tend to think of Orcs in T.E.S. as a gruff yet displaced race, and not necessarily the bloodthirsty brutes that they have the tendency of being portrayed as. I see them as laborers and craftsman as well as the armor clad warriors they are in almost every other game. High End/Willpower shows that they are extremely resillient to not only the physical hardships as Nords are, but also magical damage as well. The ultimate tank if you will. Thus, they trade a bit of strength for a more defensive role. And a tank, remember, gets its name from Damage shrugged off, not damage dissed out.


Boy was I bored. By the time I finished this I forgot where the fuck I was going with it. Anyway, someone describe to me what an Argonian looks like, for try as I might, I can't fuckin remember.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argonian
The Argonians are a fictional race of reptilian humanoids from the Elder Scrolls video game series

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saelamin




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 04:54    Post subject:
The Argonians were the guys that looked like lizards in Morrowind. They also were immune to poison.

edit: as above
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 05:47    Post subject:
I like to think of humans as a race which can adapt to fit any role but will never be the best at it. I think it's nice to have a race which are superior to humans with regards to a particular archetype, so orcs being the best warriors, high elves being the best mages, wood elves being the best archers, Khajiits being the best thieves etc.

We have preconceptions about the limits of human ability, so when we think of an extremely strong human, we think of the strongest men in the word type stuff, able to lift 200kg or whatever. But when I think of an extremely strong orc, I think of something being able to bench press trucks. Elves with visual perception capable of picking out a persons face from miles away or intelligence beyond the greatest scientist. Nible cat people able to leap across rooftops. This is what fantasy is all about in my opinion, putting humans, who we are familiar with, in impossible situations with unfamiliar creatures.

I don't mind them having variations of humans in there, so humans predisposed towards violence or academia but the humans should be the basis of comparison for everthing in this new reality, and if the humans start becoming fantastical themselves,we have nothing to relate to.

The point i'm trying to make is; humans being the strongest race is no fun. Anyway, this is what the editor is for! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 06:29    Post subject:
There we go. Appeared on newsgroups as THE.ELDER.SCROLLS.IV.OBLIVION.RETAIL-IND <CRYPTED> but password protected for Asian friends NFo said Smile


cool...soon scene release
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 06:33    Post subject:
It's bullshit, sorry.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 06:37    Post subject:
cerna_j wrote:
There we go. Appeared on newsgroups as THE.ELDER.SCROLLS.IV.OBLIVION.RETAIL-IND <CRYPTED> but password protected for Asian friends NFo said Smile


cool...soon scene release

welcome to 2 days ago.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 06:48    Post subject:
Goddamn you people.

In the span of one day I went from casually looking forward to this title to it being the obsession of my every waking moment.

I swore to myself I'd never enter such a state again (after going through the exact same thing in the upcoming days to Morrowind), and yet here I sit, a mere shell of a man, with my F5 key nearly broken.

I blame you. Each and every single one of you. Shame on you for bringing me to such a state!

Now, with that out of the way: I recall reading on the official forums it being confirmed that "rivers do not flow". However, there are I assume rivers/lakes/ponds/waterfalls present. Thus, how can a river not flow? Isn't what makes a river a river is the flow of water? Very Happy Fuckin confused.

Any mention of whether or not deer/sheep corpses are lootable for perhaps skins/meats? Would be a nifty feature that should be modded in if not. Really lookin forward to those oh so hyped and beautiful forests I've seen so many screenshots of.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 07:05    Post subject:
Maybe they couldnt afford to make the water flow when they were developing it? Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 07:38    Post subject: and then..
and then there was 8 days ...i read another review about the magic system in oblivion it seems this time around they made amazing effects for magic theg raphics is so updated and they kept the magic system a bit more closed then before i guess they understood that if ucan make a simple fireball spell kill 8 dragons at once is just aint right:)
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 07:49    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
Goddamn you people.

In the span of one day I went from casually looking forward to this title to it being the obsession of my every waking moment.

I swore to myself I'd never enter such a state again (after going through the exact same thing in the upcoming days to Morrowind), and yet here I sit, a mere shell of a man, with my F5 key nearly broken.

I blame you. Each and every single one of you. Shame on you for bringing me to such a state!

Now, with that out of the way: I recall reading on the official forums it being confirmed that "rivers do not flow". However, there are I assume rivers/lakes/ponds/waterfalls present. Thus, how can a river not flow? Isn't what makes a river a river is the flow of water? Very Happy Fuckin confused.

Any mention of whether or not deer/sheep corpses are lootable for perhaps skins/meats? Would be a nifty feature that should be modded in if not. Really lookin forward to those oh so hyped and beautiful forests I've seen so many screenshots of.


It means the rivers have no current, so you can swim across with no force pusing you downstream. Also there is no 'flow' animation, so the river will just have the standard static water effect.


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shady078




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 08:02    Post subject:
yeah, this is morrowind all over again for me.. the anticipation is killer.

I'm playing with Morrowind to help pass the time.

If half the mods that have been made for MW come out for Oblivion, it will be the purchase that keeps on giving for years Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 08:27    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:

Any mention of whether or not deer/sheep corpses are lootable for perhaps skins/meats? Would be a nifty feature that should be modded in if not. Really lookin forward to those oh so hyped and beautiful forests I've seen so many screenshots of.


In the e3 vid, he states you can take the deers meat and mix it with mushrooms to make a pot and later on, that it would be a better alternative to eat (rather than some goblin rat meat stuff), so yeah, dead deer drop meat at the very least Wink]
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 09:08    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
Goddamn you people.

In the span of one day I went from casually looking forward to this title to it being the obsession of my every waking moment.

I swore to myself I'd never enter such a state again (after going through the exact same thing in the upcoming days to Morrowind), and yet here I sit, a mere shell of a man, with my F5 key nearly broken.

I blame you. Each and every single one of you. Shame on you for bringing me to such a state!

Now, with that out of the way: I recall reading on the official forums it being confirmed that "rivers do not flow". However, there are I assume rivers/lakes/ponds/waterfalls present. Thus, how can a river not flow? Isn't what makes a river a river is the flow of water? Very Happy Fuckin confused.

Any mention of whether or not deer/sheep corpses are lootable for perhaps skins/meats? Would be a nifty feature that should be modded in if not. Really lookin forward to those oh so hyped and beautiful forests I've seen so many screenshots of.


Dont worry the other forum (the orange one) the thread for the game is 3x as big as this one lol
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Mar 2006 11:45    Post subject:
ok, to give the FAKE/REAL discussion some new power... what about this screenie? (it's the "S0N1C CRAXAZ" one...)



EDIT: sorry, forgot to say: someone opened the .iso while it was around 38%. So that's why it's only 1,8 gig.


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