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slal




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PostPosted: Sun, 16th Apr 2023 16:11    Post subject:
couleur wrote:


Quite a lot actually.



^^ Thanks. Yup it's bigger than I thought it would be Sad . Oh well will have to upgrade to 5800x3d in near future. Hope my 550W psu will be enough.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 11:07    Post subject:
slal wrote:
couleur wrote:


Quite a lot actually.



^^ Thanks. Yup it's bigger than I thought it would be Sad . Oh well will have to upgrade to 5800x3d in near future. Hope my 550W psu will be enough.


What GPU you have?
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 13:23    Post subject:
Got my TUF 4090, god daymn the performance is insane, currently running it undervolted 2740mhz @ 0.95V and it consumes the same amount of watts than RTX 3080 Laughing... Its just insane how power efficient it can be while delivering like double the rasterization performance, ray tracing ofc is on completely different level. This card does not have coil "whine", but its more like slight buzzing, cant hear it through my case so im satisfied. Cooler is amazing also like in my previous TUF 3080, below 60c @ 45% fan speed in any gaming load (even cyberpunk path tracing), it is so silent aswell, cant hear it through my Arctic Bionix 140mm fans.
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slal




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 14:25    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:

What GPU you have?


Haven't buy it yet, but I want 4070.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 14:26    Post subject:
slal wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:

What GPU you have?


Haven't buy it yet, but I want 4070.


It will be enough and headroom left if its quality PSU with that combination.
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slal




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 14:28    Post subject:
Thanks. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 20:20    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 21:20    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/91117/nvidia-rtx-4070-gpu-may-get-50-price-cut-and-that-could-happen-very-soon/index.html
What a nice gift to anyone that has already bought the card Laughing


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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couleur
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 21:38    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Got my TUF 4090, god daymn the performance is insane, currently running it undervolted 2740mhz @ 0.95V and it consumes the same amount of watts than RTX 3080 Laughing... Its just insane how power efficient it can be while delivering like double the rasterization performance, ray tracing ofc is on completely different level. This card does not have coil "whine", but its more like slight buzzing, cant hear it through my case so im satisfied. Cooler is amazing also like in my previous TUF 3080, below 60c @ 45% fan speed in any gaming load (even cyberpunk path tracing), it is so silent aswell, cant hear it through my Arctic Bionix 140mm fans.


Nice! Enjoy the card.



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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Apr 2023 22:32    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
pho08 wrote:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/91117/nvidia-rtx-4070-gpu-may-get-50-price-cut-and-that-could-happen-very-soon/index.html
What a nice gift to anyone that has already bought the card Laughing


Well, they would only have themselves to blame Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 00:01    Post subject:
Yeah, all 3 of them
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 00:12    Post subject:
Poker Face
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 00:18    Post subject:
4070 is $970 here Laughing
Gotta love customs + added value tax
For the same price I bought my rx 580 8GB many moons ago I can get a blazing 1650 (a product inferior to it)
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 08:45    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
4070 is $970 here Laughing
Gotta love customs + added value tax
For the same price I bought my rx 580 8GB many moons ago I can get a blazing 1650 (a product inferior to it)

Local shop in Finland sells it for 665€. The prices will drop below 600€ probably during this year. It's a solid option for gamers with 500-600€ budget. I would much rather pick new 4070 over used 3080 10G card, especially if 3080 is with no warranty, has been used for mining etc.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 12:38    Post subject:
AMD has their change now to make good budget GPUs.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 13:57    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Got my TUF 4090, god daymn the performance is insane, currently running it undervolted 2740mhz @ 0.95V and it consumes the same amount of watts than RTX 3080 Laughing... Its just insane how power efficient it can be while delivering like double the rasterization performance, ray tracing ofc is on completely different level. This card does not have coil "whine", but its more like slight buzzing, cant hear it through my case so im satisfied. Cooler is amazing also like in my previous TUF 3080, below 60c @ 45% fan speed in any gaming load (even cyberpunk path tracing), it is so silent aswell, cant hear it through my Arctic Bionix 140mm fans.


I got the 4090 TUF too and the coil whine is louder than any fan in my system

Kinda unacceptable with a product of this price but I couldn't really bother with the resulting RMA hell
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 14:52    Post subject:
Every card has these days some form of coil whine, its buzzing, whining etc.. have not heard for ages card that is completely silent and i have had shitloads of GPUs. It is annoying, but seems manufacturers does not have control of the chokes, since they can vibrate internally aswell.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 14:52    Post subject:


jump to 10:40 mark Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 15:53    Post subject:
@Breezer_ I'd respectfully disagree.
This gen I have went thru a 7900xt 7900xtx, and now 4080 AERO. [Got 7900xt for son, 7900xtx for me, traded for 4080]

Not one of them had any coil whine.
The 4080 is possibly the quietest card I had had in a long time overall. unless I ramp the fans up manually they are off 60% of the time, and in games hit maybe 45% speed.

Is it I use it different? Do most people run fps uncapped and getting that 1000+ in menus? Only time I have ever heard coil whine for any card I had (personal subjective narrow data, admittedly). But unless I had all syncs forced off so it tried to do "ALL THE FRAMES!" in games where it made way more than my monitor could even use or wish to show, I never heard coil whine.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 16:05    Post subject:
My Zotac 4090 AMP Extreme AERO have no coil whine at all.


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 16:35    Post subject:
We should do coil whine meeting and listen each other cards Laughing Because i dont personally believe there can be card that does not have it in some form, have bought many cards used listed as "perfect card, no coil whine", and surprise there is (some people cant even hear the frequency). Ah well, i dont care about it, unless it comes through my case.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 16:43    Post subject:
By the nature of how an inductor and electromagnetic coils work, they will 'whine' (hum). If they didn't they wouldn't be following the laws of how electromagnetism works as a byproduct of how they work Smile

So any electronic device has parts that vibrate. Now if that is audible is the question.

Not trying to praise my card, if it was crap for whine I would call it crap for it. Not like I need to impress or defend an inanimate object. Only noise it has is fan noise when they are on.

I've heard coil whine, my old 970 was bad about if I disabled vsync and ran something that caused it to hit 600+ fps.
My case sits about a foot from my head as I have it on my desk to my left and videocard is at head level. Only noise I ever hear from it is fan noise. AIO pump noise if I take the side off and listen realllly closely.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 16:46    Post subject:
My 6900XT coil whine disappeared completely when i added bykski waterblock to it and put thin thermal pad in the spot where chokes are, this made them squeeze between waterblock and pcb. Perhaps some cooler designs does this, not sure.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 16:49    Post subject:
Could be it.
The heatsink on the AERO (at least mine) is the entire length of the card, and then some. 1/3 of its length is heatpipes and fins past the end of the board with a passthru fan.
The board itself is entirely covered with a heat plate or plates with heatpipes and thermal pads.
Looking down into it, there is not one spot I can see that is bare board and components unless I look from the side and see under the plates.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 17:15    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 19:10    Post subject:
THATS my problem! thanks been struggling why it doesnt work for weeks Wink

It's the Lian Li EVO that the chassis part can be inverted on the base. Have it that way so the cords come out behind my monitor (back of case butts up to my left monitor on my desk)


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Apr 2023 20:12    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
We should do coil whine meeting and listen each other cards Laughing Because i dont personally believe there can be card that does not have it in some form, have bought many cards used listed as "perfect card, no coil whine", and surprise there is (some people cant even hear the frequency). Ah well, i dont care about it, unless it comes through my case.


It is extremely personal opinion. Some of us can't hear it even if it happens to be very bad, where others can't stand it longer than a few minutes. The most important thing is that you can't hear it with your own ears. If someone says that ALL cards are whining then so be it. Smile


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Lukxxx




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Apr 2023 23:19    Post subject:
Got used 3090 for equivalent of 580$ USD. I'm happy about this deal.
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Apr 2023 11:02    Post subject:
Lukxxx wrote:
Got used 3090 for equivalent of 580$ USD. I'm happy about this deal.


Great deal.
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