rofl, they aint slowing down shit, they just relabel it as 4070 super nvidia super scam
i love how the low ram folks is chasing them everywhere in all comments on the youtubes, everyone is making fun of the low ram, even in cases where it doesnt matter haha, might even be some amd funded chatgpt spam troll campaign
Here's the trailer for the game too, I'm just to lazy to create a thread for the game, looks all sound and fury, will probably be as solid as a fart in the wind:
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
I'm glad I can save myself the effort of pointing out HUB's bias in the future
implying that bad ports dont exist, it's just that 8 gigs of vram aren't enough
then show recommended specs for 1440p 60fps being a 3080ti
bruh, when we start defending badly optimized games just to make some hardware vendor look good. there's something you won't see DF do. they love calling out unoptimized games
Is VRAM really the expensive part on these cards? I don’t think so. We‘ve had 8 gigs VRAM as a standard for over 7 years now. (Remember the 1070 already had 8 gigs.)Just as we‘ve had 16gigs of Ram.
Badly optimized games is one thing but Nvidia being greedy and upselling their higher tier cards is another.
If you bought a 3070 with 8 gigs of VRAM or a 3080 with 10 and now wonder why that isn’t enough you got fooled by Nvidia just as much as by lazy game devs.
Its exactly the same as with Apple, selling their macbook air with 8gb of Ram and asking over 200€ for an additional 8 gigs and likewise 200€ for the upgrade to 500 gig ssd. Of course people will start to look at the macbook pros which already come with 16gigs once they start to configure their airs. Or they buy the cheaper airs and complain that 8 gigs become slow a few years in when websites become fancier.
But what I don’t get is why people complain about higher Vram utilization when at the same time gpu power has doubled. From 1070 to 3070 you get double the performance but expect VRAM utilization to stay the same. All is good when the 1070s core is too weak but when its the VRAM its an issue?
I wonder how the 3070 vs 6800 battle will go next year.
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I’d say its the lower limit on a high tier card. And if its enough for you and the stuff you play than its ok of course. The test was about the 3070 with 8 gigs, I just included the 3080 in my argument because I think 10 is pretty much the lower limit for high end cards now.
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Had RTX 3080 10GB for long time, did not have any issues even with 4K, but suddenly after games like RE4 started to be stutter fest if textures are on highest, even Diablo 4 stuttered like crazy on highest setting.
https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1649401870249771008
AMD Unboxed strikes again
(though derpelopers should clarify where puny 8GB VRAM cards stand at 1080@60fps High)
Here's the trailer for the game too, I'm just to lazy to create a thread for the game, looks all sound and fury, will probably be as solid as a fart in the wind:
From the twitter
Sounds more like reason not to optimize anything lol
edit: And I don't believe developers stopped optimizing because AMD gave us more VRAM, they stopped optimizing because we got DLSS and FSR.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
oh I totally agree Couleur, I think if you're paying enough to buy a new kidney for a GPU you should at least not have to worry about Vram. I doubt it's an expense thing since AMD provides more of it for less.
Nvidia should know more than most about the industry and its requirements it's definitely upgrade bait for higher end buyers who they think got the money to force out of them. Proof is the 3060 can be had with 12GB. Midrange buyers are least likely to upgrade every gen than high end ones obviously.
At the same time, it's the developers job to optimize their games to the hardware we have NOW, and not in 5 years then call it "futureproofing".
I mean if one of my cards was a baby it would be walking and talking right now and going to school and it has 8GB
I just keep 3080 and lower or / turn off derp setting like shiity tacked on RTX. Re4 ran fine ultra'd and looked better w/o rtx 4k, Google the comparisons.
edit: And I don't believe developers stopped optimizing because AMD gave us more VRAM, they stopped optimizing because we got DLSS and FSR.
That's not something that's happening, though. Most of the times, the PC performance is in line with the console one. Games like last of us are anomalies.
As for this game above, it's on unreal 5. That's how every game is gonna look like requirements wise, going forward, once we lose crossgen development. A ps5 is around a ryzen 2700/3600 and a GF 2070, plus/minus depending on the game. Unreal 5 targets 1080p at 30 frames on these machines. Requirements are gonna skyrocket once more unreal 5 games start coming out or other newly built engines.
edit: And I don't believe developers stopped optimizing because AMD gave us more VRAM, they stopped optimizing because we got DLSS and FSR.
That's not something that's happening, though. Most of the times, the PC performance is in line with the console one. Games like last of us are anomalies.
As for this game above, it's on unreal 5. That's how every game is gonna look like requirements wise, going forward, once we lose crossgen development. A ps5 is around a ryzen 2700/3600 and a GF 2070, plus/minus depending on the game. Unreal 5 targets 1080p at 30 frames on these machines. Requirements are gonna skyrocket once more unreal 5 games start coming out or other newly built engines.
Another reason to wait until well until next year before upgrading my puny 3070. Also... barely anything of what's in the horizon for new releases interests me, and that game is the perfect example.
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
edit: And I don't believe developers stopped optimizing because AMD gave us more VRAM, they stopped optimizing because we got DLSS and FSR.
That's not something that's happening, though. Most of the times, the PC performance is in line with the console one. Games like last of us are anomalies.
As for this game above, it's on unreal 5. That's how every game is gonna look like requirements wise, going forward, once we lose crossgen development. A ps5 is around a ryzen 2700/3600 and a GF 2070, plus/minus depending on the game. Unreal 5 targets 1080p at 30 frames on these machines. Requirements are gonna skyrocket once more unreal 5 games start coming out or other newly built engines.
Another reason to wait until well until next year before upgrading my puny 3070. Also... barely anything of what's in the horizon for new releases interests me, and that game is the perfect example.
Mod dat 3070!
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I believe the 12GB GPUs will be fine below 4K resolutions with DLSS for couple of years... I will probably replace my 4070Ti anyway when 5070/5080 comes out...
that mod for 3070 is sick though... surprised it is working as drivers are probably not ready for 3070 16GB nvidia will make sure with new drivers it will stop working... just imagine doing the same with 3080 or 4070ti... their business model will be fucked
This whole "not enough VRAM" seems to be in hands of incompetent game developers, gets also worse each day, look at that new Star Wars game, consumes 18GB VRAM at 1440p ... Absolutely ridiculous...
Im starting to regret putting so much money to my rig once again, with this pace 4090 lasts one week, thank god I do also work on my PC.
There was a video by that mooreslawisdead guy where he said hed talked to developers and they said that it actually wasnt trivial to optimize ue4 open world games not to be vram hungry... And when it gets difficult why bother... Right? Especially when the press will still shower your game w praise and ppl screaming "shut up and take my money"
There was a video by that mooreslawisdead guy where he said hed talked to developers and they said that it actually wasnt trivial to optimize ue4 open world games not to be vram hungry... And when it gets difficult why bother... Right? Especially when the press will still shower your game w praise and ppl screaming "shut up and take my money"
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