Starfield (Bethesda) [Early Access]
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Neon
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jun 2023 20:53    Post subject:
Can't get hyped for this. Seems like a No Man's Sky with mediocre shooting and mechanics that you'll barely use or will be barely usable until mods come.
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jun 2023 20:55    Post subject:
Pretty sweeeeeeeet
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jun 2023 21:04    Post subject:
I need a deep dive on that guy wearing a visor. What the fuck Laughing


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jun 2023 21:06    Post subject:
I don't know how they want to make exploring these worlds interesting, when I'm already bored looking at them in the gameplay trailer. It's Mass Effect 2's planet scanning all over again.
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jun 2023 21:41    Post subject:
looks like they stuffed the game with so many mechanics to hide a mediocre game....sure the scale seems impressive, but just that the game has too much going on for it and nothing really pops out...procedural planets? gtfo

i do like the aesthetics though, that retro feel and the music, the lightning like the sunsets also looked good


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jun 2023 22:05    Post subject:
Story trailer was meh. The special presentation on the other hand was really impressive, but it seems obvious that they meticulously hand-picked what to show, so I guess we'll have to wait for those trusty 3rd-party reviews before post-hurrdurring.

EDIT: Hmmmm price at Diego's is decent for a title this big but will probably get inflated real soon, so might have to pre-hurrdurr and then refund if (when?) it turns to be shit @ release day.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 00:08    Post subject:
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Damn, and we thought Star Citizen takes too long. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 00:09    Post subject:
Ya’ll are very hard to please 😂


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 00:11    Post subject:
Looks nice, but I can't shake off the NMS-feeling and it all being a procedural borefest. Apart from the hand placed stuff, probably. Guess it'll depend on how it balances out.


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 00:12    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Story trailer was meh. The special presentation on the other hand was really impressive, but it seems obvious that they meticulously hand-picked what to show, so I guess we'll have to wait for those trusty 3rd-party reviews before post-hurrdurring.

EDIT: Hmmmm price at Diego's is decent for a title this big but will probably get inflated real soon, so might have to pre-hurrdurr and then refund if (when?) it turns to be shit @ release day.
45€, too expensive I says.
But this won't have denuvo anyways right guys? ...right?


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 00:33    Post subject:
Dont think modability and denouvo go together, but we'll see.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 00:52    Post subject:
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Dont think modability and denouvo go together, but we'll see.
I think it would work for regular mods, but we'd be out of luck with the script extender (STSE? SOSE?)
BTW, do mods even work with the versions of TES/FO on the windows garbage store? Confused


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 01:46    Post subject:
It might be different than other space games, but yeah, games like No Man's Sky kill any sort of hype I have for planet exploration

Looks like it's running poorly in their videos as well

The rest looks pretty damn good!
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 02:03    Post subject:
Still irks me that Hitman 1 (23 years ago) had leaves you could brush up against. This, '25 years in the making', 'we finally have the tech!', and it's all still static when he's running through vegetation via third person
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 03:27    Post subject:
To me it looks like Fallout 4 with a different paint job. I'm only interested in what the community does with Bethesda's games because outside that the typical Bethesda gameplay loop is very samey and quite boring. I mean there's is nothing new here since fo3/Skyrim, id go earlier but Oblivion and Morrowind had more RPG elements.

Alot of the features discussed so far, modders have done and would implement anyway.. skills, character gen, weapon mods etc. No comment of anything they've changed to the quest system or storytelling (which I arguably think is the weakest part of Beth games).

Ya I'm just wondering what I'm supposed to be hyped about so far, what has been shown to really improve the open world sandbox experience? I mean the ships/space travel stuff I can take or leave, If it's shit I would prefer just clicking planets on a star map.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 04:15    Post subject:
Looks good but it's hard to get too excited over the same old mechanics being used with the same old engine just in a different environment. We know exactly how combat will feel and how NPC interactions and quests will be cause we've been here so many times before.

As someone who loves space games and exploration it's really that aspect which has me interested, if this were not set in space my interest would be minimal cause when you get to the core of it it's just more of the same.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 07:10    Post subject:
So they decided to overcome the terrible clunky stiff bethesda animations by just having mostly ranged weapons.

It boggles the mind how after so many years and iterations of the engine they can't have fluid animations Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 08:51    Post subject:
"Uncanny valley talking heads" Bethesda trademark and "mandatory space western setting planet"
But overall ambitious. Yet, never believe Todds' lies.


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 09:44    Post subject:
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https://www.eurogamer.net/starfield-locked-to-30fps-on-console-bethesda-confirms

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Wow, just like redfail. Such pahsitive news Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 10:47    Post subject:
but it will be 60 on naxt ghen consuls


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 11:27    Post subject:
I'll make a prediction.
I will pirate the game at launch, get some 70+ hours in mostly exploring and about 50% of the story done, then get bored and quit.

I will buy GOTY edition on sale some years later, play with some mods for 40+ hours and 30% of the story and get bored and quit.

3 years later i will install ALL the mods, play for 10+hours, find out I've FUBAR'ed something with a mod, and never touch it again Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 11:43    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 12:04    Post subject:
SPACE RO DAH! Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 12:10    Post subject:
Asgarion wrote:
I'll make a prediction.
I will pirate the game at launch, get some 70+ hours in mostly exploring and about 50% of the story done, then get bored and quit.

I will buy GOTY edition on sale some years later, play with some mods for 40+ hours and 30% of the story and get bored and quit.

3 years later i will install ALL the mods, play for 10+hours, find out I've FUBAR'ed something with a mod, and never touch it again Wink

How it will go with me: isodemo it at launch and play vanilla until I get bored. Probably get 30% of story content done by then.

And in the years that follow, new attempts will be installing tons of mods, check them out in the game, and by the time I'm ready to start playing, I'll be bored and uninstall Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 12:11    Post subject:
30 fps as a "creative decicision" on xbox according to spencer, jesus fucking christ Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 12:16    Post subject:
The game is probably extremely cpu limited, considering its scope and layers over layers of systems it has. Since the cpus in these boxes are relatively shit, its nothing out of the ordinary to have it at 30. It's a "creative" decision in the sense that you'd have to have a gimped gamedesign with fewer gameplay features to lessen the impact on the cpu. So better to target 30 on consonles. Do we even give the slightest fuck here though about how it runs on fucking xbox of all things ? I dont imagine any of us plan to play a beth game on something other than a pc
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 12:24    Post subject:
30fps or not I’m playing on Series X. Pretty sure Phil Spencer said the FPS would have been discussed at the Starfield Direct but despite everything that was discussed, they kept quite about the performance :/


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 12:27    Post subject:
Performance on consoles doesn't matter: it'll run like shit on pc regardless Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jun 2023 12:31    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
Performance on consoles doesn't matter: it'll run like shit on pc regardless Laughing


Exactly

All of their games do
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