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 Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2023 09:35 Post subject: |
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Not to mention the world boss bullshit. I never once saw one pop up. Not even once. Then i find out they spawn on 6 hour or so rotations, but not even guaranteed. What kind of bullshit is that? I bet they're not announced if you're in a dungeon either.
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2023 09:40 Post subject: |
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I play to suffer.
I don't know why people write it's a mmo. It's badly designed open world arpg with sometimes forced coop. You can solo everything, there are no real raids here. They could have gated some regions with level caps and that would've been fine. But it's just whole world scaling. It's mind-boggling. But it's my fault I fell for the lies and bought it knowing pretty well that Blizzard is just a name and not same people stuck in same company forever.
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2023 10:07 Post subject: |
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I wanted to say "Why didn't you wait and watch some streams or playthroughs", but then I remembered I bought Elex 2 day 1 thinking "Even if it's gonna be buggy it's still a PB game".
Man, hindsight is 20/20. The companies we loved as kids are empty shells of what they were, even if they have some of the old crew still working there.
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typical jew comment
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2023 10:30 Post subject: |
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Im 75lvl and still loving the game, end game is just dungeon spam, but im person who chases the "best" gear and i want my char max level + max paragon points, they really need to make more activities for end game, something like raids would be awesome and difficult world bosses.
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2023 11:08 Post subject: |
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Wow this will be interesting. Just did the ascension dungeon. Game locked up when i used "leave dungeon" Looking forward to see how many items Blizzard steals from my pocket as i naturally wil have to do the whole thing agian. This game is so god damn terrible on various ways its incredible
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2023 16:28 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Not to mention the world boss bullshit. I never once saw one pop up. Not even once. Then i find out they spawn on 6 hour or so rotations, but not even guaranteed. What kind of bullshit is that? I bet they're not announced if you're in a dungeon either. |
Not missing much, I have fought all 3, its 15 minutes of fighting and dying for the same things you can get from the whispering tree.
Just do the Legion Events. Lot more interesting/enjoyable and same rewards.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jun 2023 17:46 Post subject: |
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tonizito
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JackQ
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jun 2023 20:50 Post subject: |
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Wtf is that shit?
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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W123
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jun 2023 21:14 Post subject: |
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Good god does the campaign end up being a slog. Act4-5 are garbage. Fetch quest after fetch quest.
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jun 2023 22:40 Post subject: |
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record urself watching the end, priceles all that work for such a turd ending
most people by now figured out by now they payed 90 for unfinished untested junk and are now beta testing for a billion dollar company
runewords would have solved the alt gearing problem and items to look forward to , set items would have solved gearing dead zones of ,50-60 and 61-80 , heck u dont even get to acces the shit u payed that 20 eur extra for , that battlepas shit, by time u do, ur bored of the game, and when they announce u have to refarm all dungeons next season, u wont even start a new char
chance of finding a good unique, ur better of playing euromillions ...
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jun 2023 23:11 Post subject: |
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Game story is pretty much shit. It's good, but it's shit. You don't have any agency with your own self insert character and you're kinda blamed for decisions you had nothing to do with. Your character goes braindead from time to time just so a NPC gets to drive the story. Fuck Blizzard and fuck these NPC's. Let them stay in town and shut up.
*RAAWR*
But i mean it. They're taking too much space and you just want to smash things and look cool doing it. If shit goes down, let it be by your hands, not some lame scrub NPC you need to escort. Let me kick that NPC off a cliff instead.
But still it isn't bad, but game companies are their own worst enemy. They blame technology for game deveopment time increase, which is probably true in part. But they add all these pointless cutscenes and npc additions you don't need. It's not only Blizzard doing it.
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W123
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 00:12 Post subject: |
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It's part of the overall video game meta now...NPCs always have to tag along with you
They think they're aiding the player in making an emotional connection with the game. But the problem is that requires excellent characters and writing.. and this has none of that. Few games do really. Like why do i care about an NPC i met 10 minutes ago who is sad now that his son is dead. Same with Neyrelle in Act1. Who cares.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 00:26 Post subject: |
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I just ran, 90% of the time I didnt pay attention to if an NPC was with me.
Now those local/area events (the orange circles) that have the ghost that slooooowly wanders around a 100 foot area looking for shit you need to protect and stay inside their ring or they stop moving, I dont even stop at those.
I go "OH mob spam local event! Oh it's a ghost one, time to nope out"
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 00:59 Post subject: |
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There's no story in them, but you get tired of seeing the same events a 100 times. But i noped out of the game due to fatigue after reaching WL3. I'm not made for grinding without goals
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 01:17 Post subject: |
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So looks like derps are realizing dogshit game is dogshit game, oh well Blizz thx you for $100 and the next $60 expansion might fix some of it.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 01:19 Post subject: |
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It's not dogshit at all. It just could have been better. They tried making it bigger and badasser than it should be which was actually detrimental to the story.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 01:58 Post subject: |
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Yea Im with storm. it's not dogshit. It par for the course of a hack-and-slash 'Look at pretty damage numbers" game. I think some people had some lofty expectation of what a 'kill things, chase colors" game could even give.
It's pretty much exactly what I expected of a diablo game, or any diablo-esque genre of games:
Grind so "Big numbers go BRR", by chasing color coded gear by BRR-ing those numbers harder and faster, so you can BRR even harder. Repeat until no more BRR can be had.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 02:01 Post subject: |
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I'm gonna be strung up and flogged for this, but i think stats should be more accessible. I bet a lot of people sacrifice real upgrades because they think those 8% damage increase for this or that is better, when it might actually be a lot worse. I'd like for the UI to help out a bit to discern what is good for you based on the talents you pick as it becomes a real spaghetti nightmare at some point
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 02:27 Post subject: |
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You can hit the stats (or whatever its called) on the character screen and swap gear and see everything and if it goes up and down. There is a laundry list of numbers for everything you have stat wise in there.
Or did you mean something else?
Edit: this screen
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 02:30 Post subject: |
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Well yes, but percentages can be deceiving. +50% damage to something doing 100 damage from a weapon sounds great. But then you get a weapon doing 100 damage more but with relatively crappy secondary stats. But those percentages!
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 03:05 Post subject: |
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I think its pretty straight forward.
Put on gear with bigger numbers, that effect the thing you do for playstyle. Thats it.
Me? I use minions, crowd control, and DoT.
So my gear choices boil down to:
-Does it give me more minions, make them more damage?
-Does it extend my CC, or add damage to CC'd enemies?
-Does it add DoT time or DoT Damage?
-Is the orange texted power for a skill I use.
If yes to any of those and it's bigger number than the one I have equipped, and none of the red "you lose X" text is something I need. I put it on.
Worked well for my for 71 levels. That's all the thought I put into it and I'm the one friends come to for "hey I need help in X dungeon/capstone/nightmare dungeon" as I am the one that goes: You want that room full of mobs empty (they blink)...wanna see me do it again?
But granted a Necro max minion Dot build is a bit boring. Its "Stand in one spot hold down right click and point at corpses, and wait about 10-15 seconds if a lot of mobs. Move to next room". With the 'heat seeking' ghost explosion corpses, I dont even have to be tactful of which corpses I explode. It finds a live mob and flies to it for me.
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-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 03:28 Post subject: |
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I just know that people say you need to play specific styles at higher levels which tells me it's not that straight forward. feels to me i should be able to continue my playstyle forever, but i don't know what changes higher levels will throw at me. Not eager to find out if it's just mindless grinding.
UI definitely could have a function to tell you if you should swap out something or not. Would help a lot of people, would not matter at all to those who stare at their items for 5 minutes to judge whether its better or not
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 05:13 Post subject: |
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TBH honest people are obsessed with the concept of end game. I dunno which game started it in this genre: Diablo 3 or PoE. The promise of Diablo was always simple - play the game, get cool gear, look good - lizard brain happy. Later iteration of genre added trying different builds or characters.
I always play it to beat all the difficulties, try different builds/characters while getting cool stuff. That's the base for it - it was for Diablo 1/2, Titan Quest, Torchlight, Grim Dawn, PoE. I beat the game I get to real end game - just uninstall it, play different game. If some people want it add some additional content like maps or dungeons or arenas like Grim Dawn and PoE did but not build around it.
But new-Blizzard fucked up the base here. They focused on endgame forgetting the main game. I feel too limited here, the progression is fucked, bad. Level 40 and I just tap the same 6 skills for 10 hours now, not really looking forward to anything. I stumble meaninglessly in the game trying to get loot but there's no real sense of progression. The mechanics seem simple yet are convoluted: distant enemies, close enemies, vulnerable, overpower, injured - the game never really explains it. Do enemies have resistances? Dunno.
Almost all skills deal less damage than the weapon you wield. Whoever designed that in Diablo 3 should be shot in the head. Because all the time in the back of my head there is this thought that I would kill everything just hacking at mobs and not use skills that deal less damage than the sword I use to channel the skill 
All I hear is I have to beat the game - that is level to 50, spend all the skill points to get to the real game. WTF? It's weird progression I just suddenly stop and just grind. Well I stopped at level 30 when I unlocked all the skills I needed. I just add that 2% more damage with each point in skill and a small modifier.
"But play the game it gets better."
"When?"
"Don't know."
I dunno how many of you played Sacred 2. Diablo 4 feels like a reskin of it. It had open world, weird combat, mounts, shitty loot. You really fast got to spamming a few same skills through a slog of a game.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 06:02 Post subject: |
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Yeah the ARPG player base whine and complain about levelling to 100 or even doing the campaign thesedays, i don't get it either. The enjoyment comes from discovery, messing with skills and weird item combinations to build something. Using your brain against the games mechanics is the enjoyment. This is really unpopular mentality today, POE players mostly all read build guides from streamers with 20K hours that tell them every single item to trade/import/buy at what level, when to switch from skill A > B, the entire passive tree and when to take notables etc.
What is the point, why not just watch derpo3962 play the game for you?
The absolutely worst thing about it is that GGG semi-balance around the player base googling guides. I usually get bored around level 90 and stop playing the game because at that point it becomes "i need to clear 50 maps an hour" for enough fusings to get 6L for next content = fuck that shit I have other things to do.
Also why I hate nu-diablo series because they streamlined that fun out of the game by really dumbing down the numbers, itemization and math. I've never cared about MTX cosmetics ever in a game so that things lost on me (except when I dropped a $10K gloves in CS).
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 11:21 Post subject: |
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Well blizzard wants you to spend you a shitload of time and make money from this for years to come selling cosmetics and passes. So the game shouldn't stop, endgame is the game.
Sad though. I like realy the gameplay of aRPG's, but I don't like grinding and endgame mechanics. I would rather see a souls like difficulty for aRPG's. Just one difficulty and make it hard so you can spend 100 hours finishing the capaign. And move on, or try an alt or some kind of super difficulty if you realy like the game.
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jun 2023 16:10 Post subject: |
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Im nearing level 60. World Tier 3.
The dungeons were halfway enjoyable. WERE until the nerfed them.
I don't know. I played the absolute PISS out of Grim Dawn and still boot it up from time to time.
I don't know what it is about this game but it feels like a real slog. Im not really having fun... Im just playing it because I paid for it at this point.
I miss the feeling I got from Diablo 2 when I would find some cool weapon that would do near 2x damage and have some cool effect like Ice, Fire, etc. The items actually felt like they mattered a LOT. I just don't feel that in this game for whatever reason.
I just don't feel like I am getting powerful or if I do start to feel that way, it quickly goes away when I level up a bit because everything else around me levels up as well.
Theres so much I don't like or think is boring in this game.
But, I am hopeful some expansions and updates fix it.
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