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Not sure which rotten potato brained Slavic fuck on Owlcats team was in charge of the space combat, but yea, fuck that moron. Chiefly, his decision to always allow the entire enemy fleet to go first.
I'm in a scenario where I immediately rushed to the aid of one of my ships (one jump away), but the enemy fleet of 5 ships always gets to go first, so by the time I get to take MY FIRST FUCKING TURN, the ship I'm supposed to save is at 30% health. This is on normal difficulty. Absolutely unwinnable.
I can never be free, because the shackles I wear can't be touched or be seen.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 11:42 Post subject: |
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So what's the general rating of this game?
As good as BG3?
As good as other pathfinder CRPGs?
About as good as that Solasta CRPG?
As good as that game this year Showgunners?
-> If not comparable to above mediocre?
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 12:48 Post subject: |
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For me it is the best by a lot, but I'm only a good way in to chapter 2 (mind you, my opinion on BG3 does not align with most people, in that I think that it is a mediocre crpg, and I dropped it fairly early on as I couldn't stand the writing), so I'm not sure how much that is worth.
There are a few issues, especially in combat. Sometimes it just hangs on an action and it takes a while to execute, line of sight is stupid sometimes. There's some dips in writing quality, but in my experience mostly on side content. Not a fan of the ship combat either.
I think you have to have some sort of affinity for the 40k lore to really get the most out of it. But so far the game really grabbed me. If I had the same free time I did decades ago, I'd maybe have it finished by now, but unfortunately most days I can only put in 2-3 hours max.
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 12:56 Post subject: |
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I'm still very early in the game, but so far I'd say it's as good as BG3, but it's just a different approach.
BG3 is very streamlined and targets a wide audience (fully voiced, cutscenes, etc), while Rogue Trader is more of a traditional RPG (a lot more text based).
Some might say the writing is better than BG3, but I find a lot of the dialogs pretty excessive, to be honest. Like reading a Stephen King book: 100 words to say something that could've been said in 10  So quality wise it's still very far from Disco Elysium, imho..
Personally, I do prefer this kind of RPG over the Larian ones, with written dialogs & descriptions of characters and surroundings.
Can't compare it to Showgunners though. It's still a really great game, but not at all as deep as the other ones.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 13:39 Post subject: |
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I normally don't like reading in games (especially not a lot) because I basically read all the time during my work, but in this game – man, I read every little bit I can find, and just can't get enough.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 14:39 Post subject: |
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First patch is out, broke the saves for everyone. xD
Fucking clowns. 
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 14:53 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 14:57 Post subject: |
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Hilarious. 
I'm glad I'm on the yarr version, and thus, am unaffected by all the shit.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 20:27 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | | Il_Padrino wrote: | ... it's as good as BG3, but it's just a different approach.
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Yes, a book vs the TikTok approach. |
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 22:06 Post subject: |
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| Immunity wrote: | | r3dshift wrote: | First patch is out, broke the saves for everyone. xD
Fucking clowns. |
What was the versioning number on the patch so I know to skip it and wait for the next one - any idea? I'm so far in I'm not gonna risk my saves. |
1.0.1
Truth be told, though, they have already fixed it – it was a laughably amateur error on their part.
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Dec 2023 22:23 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Dec 2023 17:50 Post subject: |
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I just KNEW they were going to pull this shit...they did the fucking trope where (minor vague spoiler)...
 Spoiler: | At a point in the campaign, they strip you and all your followers of all of your gear. When you get it back, they just dump it all straight into your inventory, unequipped. |
So I had to spend the next 45 minutes fucking and faffing about trying to remember how everything was. 
I can never be free, because the shackles I wear can't be touched or be seen.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Dec 2023 18:09 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I was so fucking annoyed about this last night...
And honestly, the entirety of Chapter 3 is utter shite thus far. I had to throw role-playing out of the window because the things you are forced to do and say don't align with a dogmatic character at all.
Also, the plot twist is just a fucking mess.
| Spoiler: | And I still don't have all of my followers back. I had to consult a playthrough guide to make sure I don't fuck something up. |
Terrible game design in this section.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Dec 2023 20:00 Post subject: |
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| r3dshift wrote: | | Terrible game design in this section. |
Yep, Chapter 3 just went completely off the rails and ended up turning what, until that point, was an incredibly fun story and game experience into a confusing, monotonous fucking slog. I'm just waiting for it to end so that, hopefully, everything gets back on track afterwards.
I can never be free, because the shackles I wear can't be touched or be seen.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Dec 2023 20:03 Post subject: |
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^ same here, but I am worried the writing/story will continue to go downhill after chapter 3. It would be a bloody shame.
Also, it will be a loooong while before I replay the game (really wanted to do a scummy/heretic character as well, though), as I am definitely not looking forward to suffering through this bit again.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Dec 2023 20:36 Post subject: |
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| r3dshift wrote: | | it will be a loooong while before I replay the game. |
Haven't gotten there yet (just finished tutorial and started chp 1), but something similar happened to me with PF WotR when getting to the 4th chapter and the city you had to rotate the camera to get around in. Felt that chapter was such a slog it stopped me from replaying.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Dec 2023 21:34 Post subject: |
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Alushinyrra was a great chapter, the technical limitations were annoying.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Dec 2023 00:09 Post subject: |
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Yeah, sometimes fighting against the camera is so damn annoying too. I have been putting up with is so far, but it's getting on my list of negatives.
Another annoyance is space battles. They are just boring time wasters, nothing more. I set the difficulty to easy, as I cba to actually fuck around with them, but I really wish there was a "speed up turns" button or option.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Dec 2023 09:53 Post subject: |
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Ist the Animation Speed Slider only for the landbattles? I think spacebattles too.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Dec 2023 10:56 Post subject: |
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Land battles only.
Also, fuck chapter 3, I lost Idira due to a bug...
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Dec 2023 00:15 Post subject: |
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Are any rumors lost at the start of chapter 4?
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Dec 2023 12:00 Post subject: |
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Not on my end. New ones are added, though.
Finally managed to suffer through the utter shit slog that was chapter 3. I literally couldn't wait for it to end, and was quite pissed off when I had to return to a previous location because I hadn't searched it thoroughly, and so I was unable to progress. Also, the final fight there is a big f u.
Also, miraculously, Idira is back on my voidship's bridge after being absent from chapter 3 altogether, and she acts as if nothing had happened... way to break immersion.
Anyway, hopefully the writing and the story picks up again. The bugs certainly have, my RT moves around on the voidship in a sitting position... like he's in an invisible wheelchair.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Dec 2023 16:24 Post subject: |
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I played a few hours in chapter 4 and I like it. The chapter is very well written so far and the situation I'm put in is very interesting.
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Tue, 19th Dec 2023 17:23 Post subject: |
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Noble - Officer - Master
Abelard: Soldier - Vanguard
Pasqal: Operative - Assassin (because I need his skills)
Argenta: Soldier - Arch-militant
Cassia: Officer - Master Strategist (speced in navigator)
Yrliet: Operative - Bounty hunter
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2023 00:30 Post subject: |
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| Nodrim wrote: | Noble - Officer - Master
Abelard: Soldier - Vanguard
Pasqal: Operative - Assassin (because I need his skills)
Argenta: Soldier - Arch-militant
Cassia: Officer - Master Strategist (speced in navigator)
Yrliet: Operative - Bounty hunter |
Almost the same here, except that my RT is a Commissar Officer / Strategist (a dogmatic one due to role-playing), and I developed Cas to be a Grand Tactician. Instead of Yrliet, whom I did not recruit (she's a filthy xeno!), I run either Heinrix (assassin) or the Space Marine. I also have Idria in sometimes, she's (surprisingly, but I didn't know what I was doing ) a bounty hunter.
I already know that on my next run (but only after the definitive edition is out in a year or so), I'm gonna play a sarcastic/indifferent/profit-oriented/power-hungry/heretic voidborn, either a psyker or of a crime lord background.
Re: chapter 4. I only just started it, and it's full of bugs. Had my first full-screen error message (saying KINGSMAKER...) and subsequent crash, as well as a bug that seemed to be game-breaking. It was related to one of the rumours (most of which seem broken, so careful with exploring them), but I eventually managed to fix it by loading an earleir save. The "sitting in an invisible wheelchair" bug still persists on the voidship, though...
The heavily changed | Spoiler: | Footfall |
looks interesting, to say the least. But I haven't explored it yet, | Spoiler: | left that maniac zealot alone for now, she's too much even for my character. |
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Dec 2023 00:49 Post subject: |
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I like chapter 3, it puts you in a different situation where being a rogue trader means squat. The camera is a bit annoying.
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