Elon Musk sues OpenAI and CEO Sam Altman over contract breach
Elon Musk is suing Microsoft-backed OpenAI and its CEO, Sam Altman, among others, alleging they abandoned the companyās founding mission to develop artificial intelligence āfor the benefit of humanity broadly.ā
In a lawsuit filed Thursday with a San Francisco court, Muskās lawyers said the tech billionaire was approached in 2015 by Altman and OpenAI co-founder Greg Brockman and agreed to form a nonprofit lab that would develop artificial general intelligence for the ābenefit of humanity.ā
A co-founder of OpenAI in 2015, Musk stepped down from the firmās board in 2018, four years after saying that AI is āpotentially more dangerous than nukes.ā
āTo this day, OpenAI, Inc.ās website continues to profess that its charter is to ensure that AGI benefits all of humanity.ā In reality, however, OpenAI, Inc. has been transformed into a closed-source de facto subsidiary of the largest technology company in the world: Microsoft,ā the lawsuit filing said.
Muskās lawyers said in the lawsuit that OpenAIās focus on maximizing profits for Microsoft breaks that agreement.
āUnder its new Board, it is not just developing but is actually refining an AGI to maximize profits for Microsoft, rather than for the benefit of humanity,ā the filing said.
OpenAI was not immediately available for comment. Microsoft declined to comment.
All this gender, race, ism this ism that bullshit will be even funnier when we'll all end up side by side running in our respective wheels or transformed into *whatever* the godAI wants
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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Rogue AI. Hard to see that happen. It's just an algoritm. It's adresses millions of (mostly bullshit) questions cause that's what it is designed to do. It has no desire cause it's not human anyway, so why would it have any plans or be evil.
Still, can't be sure though, it's super human intelligence (or it will be soon), it's gonna be smarter then we are in every way. Who knows what AI will come up with.
Well reality is no one knows, and most people have no comprehension what advanced AI is and think it's ChatGPT V2.
I think the risks are more real than the deluded idea we get free wage and won't have to work anymore because AI will do the work. Will take a long time for the world to catch up, I already think chatgpt comfortably replaces most white collar workers.
For sure AI is gonna be a shocker, soon. If only 10-20% of office jobs are replaced it's a disaster cause it will chance society way faster then people can adapt.
Most people think you are crazy mentioning concerns about AI. Fact is, it's happening allready. Rumors are Alphabet is allready laying off people off and replacing them with AI.
Also i'm confident that behind the scenes AI is capable of much more then what we are shown.
This was 2017: ai bots outperforming a human in a phone call:
Alphabet has been very silent about it's AI capabilities since. Only releasing Gemini when they had to cause the stock tanked cause of fear of openai being ahead.
OpenAI is very vocal about what it's capabilities cause it has to rely on external funds, they need to sell their product. Big tech is drowning in money, they have time. The other companies are quietly improving their algoritms. And some day, soon, shit is gonna be released and a lot of people will realize they are not only out of a job, they have lost their profession
cover image by DallE complete with broken text lol
product description by ChatGPT
"book" written by ChatGPT
incredible
I especially like the way he blacks out especially bad shit on the DallE cover images
but it's still so full of errors, what is the fucking point lol
checking out a sample you'll find random ramblings from ChatGPT regarding the franchise the "book" is about
its so funny because it talks about how the upcoming movie the "book" is about resonated with audiences in the past tense and shit
the planet of the apes one is especially confused and talks about characters and events from the 1968 films as if they are in the new films
this shit is hilarious, and I don't think you can even report this stuff because it's not illegal I guess? even though it's clearly a scam?
I only found this shit because I was looking to preorder Dune 2 on bluray and that Dune cover image jumped out as suspicious as I was scrolling through
its like the 5th result when searching Dune 2, how embarrassing...
this is the shit we gotta worry about right now
AI taking over is not a worry for our generation
Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
Well everything is being saturated with this kind of content now. Like utub video's, shorts etc. People are already automating clickbait with shitty voice-over clips.
Rather than make good content, you can just make tons and tons of garbage content and get the same clicks.
I donāt understand something (and this moaning has been going on for two years, now). Why was it OK for renaissance artists to copy each other into oblivion, err, sorry, get inspired by each other, but when a machine does it, itās stealing? Leaving aside instances where gen.ai generates a specific copyrightable logo or shape or character (much less common these days), a āstyleā cannot be copyrighted, only specific works. Also, usually, along the ātheft!!111ā claims, there is the obligatory āai has no imagination, it can only create copies of what it has been trained onā argument. Itās a eating the cake and having it whole argument. If the AI lacks imagination, what are you, oh so "imagination-full" āartistā, so afraid of? You will always be able to create much more creative work! Indeed, all this crying is intended to obfuscate the fact that most āartistsā, especially internet āartistsā, are not the most imaginative themselves, and what they could do before in days or weeks, a machine does in seconds. I get it, hacks need jobs too, but this is an oh so familiar cycle where technology comes and people need to adapt. I am sure all them manual laborers bemoaned the machines āstealingā their work in the late 1700s; many of them maybe even had existential ponders. And yet, here we are.
Jesus, the highfalutin bullshit in that video š¤¦āāļø āAI art is affecting your mind and how you perceive things that you see ā while showing highly stylized images in the background As if, I was consuming the same style art from real people, that would contribute to my āmind dietā, but the AI generated images are āfast foodā. OK
It's generating the most noise because image generation has hit mainstream derp faster than the other things AI can do. It's a tool that accomplishes a job 100x faster than a person sitting there in Photoshop - ships sailed, start learning a new skill.
I swear most people that make money in graphic design have very little room for creativity anyway, colour schemes are chosen for them, the art style is also often decided for them, the content generally comes from marketing, and middle managers decide if it goes out the door or not. If your a painter or photographer, someone still has to take those photos or put it to canvas. I do know a national gallery level artist and they work a normal job, and do art second.. what's changed?
I'm curious what will happen in the IT landscape as I believe 95% of that workforce is already redundant. One tech lead with half a clue can work with AI and replace 100 people on the floor in todays modern enterprise. I get better front/backend code, better CSS and styling, better JS and more secure code in 4 hours from ChatGPT than I do working with 10 people in 3 months.
You're a dev @Leo, if you haven't tried coding / debugging with chatGPT yet - try it and realise how dead the industry is.
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Well, but notice who complains about gen.ai mostly; millennial and gen ztard āartistsā. The older ones, that Iād say are much better artists to my taste, are still painting and taking photos. They probably havenāt even heard or noticed their craft be affected by AI. But the internet āartistsā are moaning for two years already. Reminds me of the utub ācreatorsā that moan about ādemonitaaahhzdā constantly, and how itās hurting their ājobā.
Of course there will be a 30 year lag of terrible companies unable to adopt etc. (E.G there's still ton's that don't adopt cloud) and plenty of work - but the capability is 100% there right now, I'd be dropping the headcount 70-80%, keeping my top guys and getting AI subscriptions.
I'm curious what will happen in the IT landscape as I believe 95% of that workforce is already redundant. One tech lead with half a clue can work with AI and replace 100 people on the floor in todays modern enterprise. I get better front/backend code, better CSS and styling, better JS and more secure code in 4 hours from ChatGPT than I do working with 10 people in 3 months.
This is not really down to AI only. The company that I work for now, Cato Networks, is basically allowing a huge multi-continent fortune 15 company to be network managed by three IT people (one is the boss), with next to zero hardware requirements. Weāre still a growing start up, but this is the future of networking, according to Gartner. Imagine all the IT people going out of work when most organizations catch up and move to such services. Imagine the outcry on utub; ācloud is stealingz ourz jobz oeh noezā
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You're a dev @Leo, if you haven't tried coding / debugging with chatGPT yet - try it and realise how dead the industry is.
I ran my interview questions I used to ask interviewees, and I shit you not, cGPT gave me much better answers than 95% of the people I interviewed. It was also āsmartā enough that it was possible to further develop ideas where most interviewees wouldnāt even reach because they had to āthinkā for 30-60 minutes of a solution.
Well everything is being saturated with this kind of content now. Like utub video's, shorts etc. People are already automating clickbait with shitty voice-over clips.
Rather than make good content, you can just make tons and tons of garbage content and get the same clicks.
Kids Youtube is being polluted with cheap crap for years now - it is not a new issue - but the AI helpers make it much easier to swamp the web with bullshit.
There are also plugins that allow lazy people to generate answers to various social media posts. I expect this to spread anywhere...eventually the AIs will start interacting with each other and we become spectators as our own internet is flooded with fake images and fake personas.
Also it is a misconception that everyone will fall for fake bullshit and mistake it for real footage. This is only happening for a short while and mainly with boomers. The opposite is going to happen - no one will believe what they see anymore. Everyone becomes sceptical and fake will be assumed as default. Some real stuff is already being misidentified as AI generated and it is only going to get worse.
This is what is happening now and shortly after the great job annihilation starts. This makes me kind of happy because it will force us to rethink the entire economic system and how we view work, which would not have happened otherwise. I expect the transition to be slow and painful but in the end it is better that way. People will rebel and protest, get violent and demand various bans. For me work is a waste of time we are forced to do to survive but many others get their purpose out of it (like a religion) and they will not be happy.
So while the nerds and geeks are debating about AGI we are entering the era of weak AI.
In the meantime the wokes are using the AI ethics path to get as much control as possible...
I wrote this before - weak AI alone can completely alter society. In theory and with long enough time it is even possible to trigger the singularity without the need to achieve AGI. (by using it to cause scientific breakthroughs and modify ourselves to become a new species, or digital superintelligent beings)
I expect this period of weak AI to last between 5 and 20 years. Talking about hypothetical AGI scenarios is important in the long run but the weak AI stuff is more urgent for now and already causing gigantic ripples.
And it will become much better at what it does, very quickly.
People getting sceptical and doubting everything is not such a bad thing I think. Unless it slows down everything, decision makings etc and nothing can get done anymore. But that's already the case with minority groups using social media as a megaphone, inventing new outrages by the minute, against whatever topic.
Weak AI is a nice term. World's already going crazy over simple language models. We just cannot imagine the impact of a real AGI.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
I think this will do a number on google search results too, making them even worse. I already ran into a bunch of gibberish articles that have nothing to do with what I was looking for apart from them engineering tf out of SEO.
I donāt understand something (and this moaning has been going on for two years, now). Why was it OK for renaissance artists to copy each other into oblivion, err, sorry, get inspired by each other, but when a machine does it, itās stealing? Leaving aside instances where gen.ai generates a specific copyrightable logo or shape or character (much less common these days), a āstyleā cannot be copyrighted, only specific works. Also, usually, along the ātheft!!111ā claims, there is the obligatory āai has no imagination, it can only create copies of what it has been trained onā argument. Itās a eating the cake and having it whole argument. If the AI lacks imagination, what are you, oh so "imagination-full" āartistā, so afraid of? You will always be able to create much more creative work! Indeed, all this crying is intended to obfuscate the fact that most āartistsā, especially internet āartistsā, are not the most imaginative themselves, and what they could do before in days or weeks, a machine does in seconds. I get it, hacks need jobs too, but this is an oh so familiar cycle where technology comes and people need to adapt. I am sure all them manual laborers bemoaned the machines āstealingā their work in the late 1700s; many of them maybe even had existential ponders. And yet, here we are.
It's pretty obvious AI will greatly endanger artists livelihoods, regardless of whether you think they're shit at art and don't deserve anything tangible for their poor work.
Whether that's something to be happy about is on you, but can't you have any sympathy for the other side of the argument, even if they're typically stupid, lazy, talentless (where have I seen that one before.. ) ztards to you ?
Artists getting inspirations one from the other (leading to the creation of artistic movements, much like Renaissance painters) or straight up copying one another is not identical to AI siphoning data and regurgitating it in a convincing enough manner, they're barely comparable to me, it's just the gotcha that's similar. Making AI and human work equivalent is exactly how it's gonna go, but what good will such a stance bring - other than owning the ztards ?
Here we are regarding industry in general. I'm not particularly happy about its worldwide state, but maybe that's just me. Those existential ponders had some legitimacy, looking at the end result and the state of industrial production worldwide. These ponders are usually what made the difference in having respectable and humane work conditions.
Since it nets us cheap phones and allows trash to be funneled out, we don't really give a shit about industry in general, though.
Mass producing bullshit so that everything becomes muddled with shit, and not worth fighting over any longer.
If you're so good at sculpting furniture, why are so afraid of IKEA? Just do better with your little human hands !
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I think you got industrialization backwards. All those sweatshops, without the humane working conditions, are the opposite; they are a cynical abuse of the fact that labor in those regions of the world is cheaper than actually automating with machinery.
In general, mass-produced shit has not replaced hand-crafting, only relegated it to a niche segment, where only the real quality artists make it. Ikea didnāt kill hand-crafted furniture; on the contrary, thatās a lucrative, blooming niche market. What Ikea did is ādemocratizeā furniture and furniture choice, where as in the past, people would not have these options available to them. Has Ikea hurt some local woodwork shops? I am sure they have. Do you or I miserate with sympathy every time we go to Ikea or just use their furniture at home? I donāt, because thatās no way to live life.
The thing about mass-production is that it creates an average. It can lower the high peaks, if people choose or canāt spend money on a specific field, but it also brings the low peaks up. Ikea, McDonalds, etc. have a net benefit for humanity, even if you, from your privileged standpoint, think they are substandard in their field.
I think the same will happen in art. Yes, those that canāt afford it, or lack artistic taste, will use AI, but those that do not want regurgitated shit will go to real artists. And the world will continue to spin. Utub āartisticā āpersonalitiesā will have to find a new job,
@TheZor I keep circling in my mind to your "owning the ztardsā comment. I guess my lack of, or just very limited, empathy for these clowns is that they just keep whining. Cry wolf too many times. Previous generations just did things. When they were unhappy, they changed things. All these āztardsā to is feel entitled and then whine and cry when their entitlement is evaporated or shown as empty.
@TheZor I keep circling in my mind to your "owning the ztardsā comment. I guess my lack of, or just very limited, empathy for these clowns is that they just keep whining. Cry wolf too many times. Previous generations just did things. When they were unhappy, they changed things. All these āztardsā to is feel entitled and then whine and cry when their entitlement is evaporated or shown as empty.
I don't believe there is anything inherently remarkable or different with the youngest generations. Yes, young people are more passionate (hence less patient/thoughtful, even though that's a very broad kind of generalization) and more easily impressionable.. but that's how it's always been, though !
If there is something off with them specifically, then it would be on the adults who're bringing them up in a highly competitive world filled to the brim with short-term stimulations, mass consumerism on the tip of their fingers, and so on. Why would they care about anyone but themselves when the entire system is screaming at them that it's how the world actually works ? How could their upbringing be their responsibility to begin with ?
Their brains don't work differently from the previous generation - although I suspect massive electronics usage does not have a positive long-term effect on our psyches over all age ranges ; malleable, younger minds are weaker to it and the addiction it creates.
Their suspected apathy is reflected by yours (and that of older generations in general, I'm not looking to take a jab at you for the sake of it ) as well, I'm sorry to put it this way but that's how it comes across to me - it's not specifically aimed at you though, this tune is largely repeated by everyone growing older around me so I'm venting a bit here. Why would they give a shit ? When they do, it's more than often welcomed with a fair dose of ridicule.. exhibit A !
That's not to say teenagers won't often say the dumbest, exaggerated or self-absorbed shit one could conceive, that's adolescence in a nutshell for you; but I'd be wary to dismiss all their woes as soft weakness, or as fundamentally different from that of our generation. This contempt is only natural, but it's still contempt !
I mean, these comments and sentiments are very literally what older generations have been saying about younger ones for millennia - "my generation just so happens to be the last "reasonable" one before this latest who is lazy, out of touch, doesn't listen, etc. Everything after it is fucked"
You can find headlines saying "the young don't want to work/are lazy/don't give a damn about anything/are stupid" since the dawn of newspapers, and they've been repeated ad nauseam ever since then. The sentiment is fairly similar to nostalgia mixed with a vague resentment.. Yet, the world hasn't crumbled yet !
If anything, if these kids are truly apathetic, all they need is optimism and trust, don't they.
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Yea..damn flappers...or was it greasers? sorry, meant hippies, wait..damn Yuppies, or was it Goths, Hipsters? Emo? Skate punks?
Which decade are we talking about again, so I can narrow down which youth we are specifically being mad about being lazy, entitled, angry about 'dumb stuff' to us, and the worst generation after us? I need to know which decade it is, so I can dislike the people of the one after that one
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Previous generations just did things. When they were unhappy, they changed things.
Yes...changed. As in past tense and quantifiable as established past events. There is no 'changed' yet. as its present tense. And what they are trying to change we resist and say is futile to try...just a fade, an attempt in vain (like our parents, and theirs ...damn hippies and such).
We/us/whoever dislikes the changes they want, as much as late 50's held that a suit and tie is a status of a hardworking moral upstanding man, and hated 60's hippies 'stupid ass, lazy as hell, no job having dirty idiots dressings like dirty hobo clowns'. (you dont know the real world kid, shut up)
āIt only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea.ā While overtly hyperbole in nature, has a root of vague truth in the seamless ever existent flow of generational divides. (We have made the world how we want over 20 years please do not change it further, we are now the older and wiser to be respected generation. To do so disrespects what your elders want)
Welcome to getting old Leo, and all these new kids in the pool loudly splashing and playing in it, is ruining your fond memories of how you splashed and played in it differently. Your pool games made sense. These new games they play are dumb, and ruining what you remember of the pool. Soon they will be complaining the same after you take your towel off the chair you was trying to relax on and leave the pool (damn loud kids! can't a man just relax in the pool he made how he liked) .
"Kids these days!" -every generation
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Where are the manly vigour and athletic appearance of our forefathers flown? Can these be their legitimate heirs? Surely, no; a race of effeminate, self-admiring, emaciated fribbles can never have descended in a direct line from the heroes. Their listlessness and lameness of conviction is evident in their attitudes.
Guess the decade...or century that is from. Does it really matter? Its what every one of them has said just with different words.
It's still a bit clunky. But no worries, the good stuff is comming in 3-5 months the company says.
Made by figure 01, a company unknown a year ago. Like how the actual fuck did they do that. Three years ago uncle Elon showed us a guy in suit. Bosten Dynamics is working on this for years and can only sell gimmicky robot dogs. Now an unknown company delivers a humanoid robot powered by open AI and it's allready commercially availible. Wouldn't be surprised if this thing was designed with a lot of AI help.
Well, we have plenty of time to play games in the near future , that is, if society is still somewhat functional after AI has changed the world as we know it.
Boston Dynamics robots are the opposite of this, they're made to be able to traverse terrain, their usage is completely different (military etc). This looks stationary(? at least it's not shown to move from its place) and it can pick up stuff, doesn't look very impressive, not yet at least. It could be useful if for example it can lift extremely heavy objects that humans just can't, then we have something which is more than just a "lift" or some other tool that also requires a human.
Devs admit it's clunky and that this is gonna improve soon.
I mentioned Boston Dynamics cause they are doing robotics for a long time and their robots don't have a lot practical use as of today.
Figure this one is allready training for factory work. Just the fact that such a small startup can do this in a short time is mindblowing, it's AI powered innovation and the speed of development is like nothing else in history.
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ā while showing highly stylized images in the background 
) ztards to you ?
) as well, I'm sorry to put it this way but that's how it comes across to me - it's not specifically aimed at you though, this tune is largely repeated by everyone growing older around me so I'm venting a bit here. Why would 
