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Pretty sure they wouldn't have been cleaned out if they weren't making money on it though right?
2.4m seems low, they probably made that or more thru Gen Patreon. I thought it was common knowledge making money on these kind of endeavours is a really bad idea.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Mar 2024 13:31 Post subject: |
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The yuzu guys were always careless, I remember when they wanted to launch Raptor
a paid multiplayer replacement service, and then pulled it within hours or so, probably their lawyer yelling at them to stop that shit real quick
They should have never given Nintendo an inch.
Ryujinx won't have the same problem, and CEMU never had the same problem. And the latter even supported native online play through Nintendo servers if you pulled the files from your own console
Just gotta know where the line is
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Mar 2024 13:46 Post subject: |
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Maybe the line is don't fucking charge for your emulator
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Mar 2024 23:10 Post subject: |
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https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/03/heres-how-the-makers-of-the-suyu-switch-emulator-plan-to-avoid-getting-sued/
| Quote: | After consulting with an unnamed "someone with legal experience" (Sharpie would only say "they claimed three years of law school"), the Suyu development team has decided to avoid "any monetization," Sharpie said. The project's GitLab page clearly states that "we do not intend to make money or profit from this project," an important declaration after Nintendo cited Yuzu's profitability a few times in its recent lawsuit. Other emulator makers also told Ars that Yuzu's Patreon opened the project up to a set of pesky consumer demands and expectations.
The Suyu devs have also been warned against "providing step-by-step guides" like the ones that Yuzu offered for how to play copyrighted games on their emulator. Those guides were a major focus of Nintendo's lawsuit, as were some examples of developer conversations in the Yuzu Discord that seemed to acknowledge and condone piracy. |
| Quote: | | The No. 1 rule listed on the Suyu Discord is that "piracy is prohibited." That includes any talk about downloading games or "asking for system files, ROMs, encryption keys, shader caches, and discussion of leaked games etc." Even a mention of the word piracy with regard to legal questions is enough to earn a warning on the Discord, according to those rules. |
| Quote: | | The team's slow public rollout is by design, Sharpie said, "both for legal reasons and because we want to have more tangible progress to show before providing any compiled builds." But that plan has already been spoiled somewhat by what Sharpie said was "the sheer size and growth of this [Discord] server [which] makes us much more popular than we would have preferred." |
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| Posted: Mon, 11th Mar 2024 23:15 Post subject: |
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Missed those messages condoning piracy. Only seen warnings being thrown around for even hinting at piracy. Seen people being banned for posting logs which included pirated games
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Mar 2024 11:52 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | | Maybe the line is don't fucking charge for your emulator |
Cemu and Ryujinx still both have an active patreon for supporters, both made plenty of money, especially Cemu in it's hay-day
But neither Yuzu or cemu or ryujinx force you to pay for anything, they're open source (cemu is now anyway) and with yuzu it was only the latest compiled binaries that were locked behind patreon, Cemu did that too tho
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JackQ
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Mar 2024 15:43 Post subject: |
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Apparently Lime replaced Citra, as fork of the main emulator as Citra itself shutdown.
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Mar 2024 16:08 Post subject: |
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I don't get it. Nintendo targeted Switch, not 3DS. Why would they change it?
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JackQ
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Mar 2024 16:54 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Mar 2024 17:16 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | I don't get it. Nintendo targeted Switch, not 3DS. Why would they change it? |
same people worked on both emus and ran them so prolly some agreement that they wont be associated with any current and future nintendo hardware eulation or else clause in their agreement.
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Mar 2024 14:10 Post subject: |
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Cowards. Btw if you are looking for the last Yuzu and Citra builds archive.org is your friend
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JackQ
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Frant
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2024 18:20 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It later came to light how Nintendo's claims that the emulator was used primarily to play pirated games were backed by telemetry data. |
Oh. They recorded telemetry data that Nintendo used against them. Yay. Let's hope other emu-developers will remember that.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2024 18:21 Post subject: |
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Is there a Paterererreron or GoHurrDurrMe or OnlyFans I can throw money at, so that Nintendo shuts this down too? 
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| Posted: Wed, 20th Mar 2024 19:35 Post subject: |
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Had a play with Suyu but I prefer Ryujinx.
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2024 13:33 Post subject: |
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| ManMountain wrote: | | Had a play with Suyu but I prefer Ryujinx. |
What are the reasons?
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2024 14:19 Post subject: |
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Lol. Yuzu runs better 95% of the times. Yes, ryujinx has had better compability on brand new games, but fall short performance wise in general.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2024 14:44 Post subject: |
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It's now Suyu.
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2024 14:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2024 15:37 Post subject: |
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Careful, someone might Suyu
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2024 16:38 Post subject: |
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Having used both Switch emulators over hundreds of ROMs on a decent PC, I don't find performance an issue on Ryujinx. To each their own I suppose.
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2024 18:31 Post subject: |
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Some people will say the grass is blue to win a internet argument, but in the end the grass is still green.
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2024 19:17 Post subject: |
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| Amadeus wrote: | | Careful, someone might Suyu |
heh'
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| Posted: Thu, 21st Mar 2024 19:30 Post subject: |
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It's a bit like people who don't see above 30 fps i suppose.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Mar 2024 02:55 Post subject: |
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at launch).
I think that's due to Ryujinx being focused on accuracy above everything, while Yuzu had a more "bruteforce" approach to getting performance and hacking stuff so nothing breaks, generally speaking.
