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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Mar 2024 22:35    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:
dethy wrote:
What is nVidia reflex and how do I disable it?

1. Dunno


It's an nvidia suite of software to reduce input latency as much as possible. So when you move the mouse in a game, everything responds and feel as snappy as possible. You should also go in the nvidia control panel, under "manage 3d settings" look for Low Latency Mode and turn it On
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Mar 2024 22:40    Post subject:
Dazz99 wrote:
headshot wrote:
https://youtu.be/pQM04yH7fEU
thought that was ben affleck for a sec Laughing

Now I can't unsee it Laughing


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Il_Padrino




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Mar 2024 13:30    Post subject:
Performance indeed looks good (still in the first part/tutorial)! Cranked everything to max (disabled the usual stuff like chromatic abomination, motion blur, vignette, ...). and it runs quite good on my gaming laptop (RTX2080) even without upscaling. I do always play in 1080p, however, not 4K.

Is there like an overview of the graphics settings and their FPS cost? Any settings I could lower that have (close to) 0 visual impact?

Edit: this nice video goes through all settings and their impact side by side.

The 'level of detail' setting appears to be the heaviest and most important one, costing 10 to 30 FPS. Shadows cost 10 FPS between medium and high too.



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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Mar 2024 15:59    Post subject:
Cheesus, everyone is hamming their dialogues, like it's a soap opera. Laughing


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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 05:13    Post subject:
I am pleasantly surprised by the port so far. It's running very good on C2 with 4080p with no HDR.


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madness




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 07:27    Post subject:
So this is a much better port but has less peak players than HZD... Sony/Nixxes might not bother with optimizing next time, wasn't really worth it Laughing
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 09:59    Post subject:
Any mod out yet to fix her fat face? Laughing


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Divvy




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 10:21    Post subject:
So after being bothered by weird mouse movement and judder, I found out that you can fix that by disabling mouse smoothing from the game's registry. But then the mouse sensitivity becomes linked to FPS. Crying or Very sad

This port isn't as good as people say, IMO.

1) Mouse is juddery and stuttery, especially if FPS drops under 60, even with VRR. Can be fixed by disabling mouse smoothing but then sensitivity becomes variable depending on FPS. Best experience is just leaving smoothing enabled and ensuring FPS is always above 60, but it's still not perfect. Alternatively, disable smoothing and lock FPS to a number you know you can keep up all the time so mouse is smooth and consistent.

2) Unexplainable drops to even sub-30 fps in some cutscenes. Graphics settings do nothing for those drops.

3) HDR luminance slider is busted. Requires fan-made fix to work.

4) Switching around graphics settings slowly fills up VRAM with trash, eventually leading to overflow and bad performance that only recovers by restarting the game.

5) Using NVidia Reflex causes frametime issues. Since Reflex is necessary for frame generation, that also has frametime issues.

6) Random small black boxes flashing on screen, or shadows flickering.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 10:37    Post subject:
Mouse feels perfect for me, but then the game never drops below 160

However... the game itself is kind of average
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H4wkeye




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 11:16    Post subject:
I have these weird FPS drops too. The game will run like 100 FPS, all smooth and nice. Then just suddenly looking at one direction it'll drop to like 30-40. And only a full game restart fixes it. Also when you talk to NPCs sometimes the FPS goes to like 20 fps.
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Divvy




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 11:25    Post subject:
H4wkeye wrote:
I have these weird FPS drops too. The game will run like 100 FPS, all smooth and nice. Then just suddenly looking at one direction it'll drop to like 30-40. And only a full game restart fixes it. Also when you talk to NPCs sometimes the FPS goes to like 20 fps.


Have you tried dropping texture quality? My 10gb VRAM is not enough for max textures at 4K DLSS Performance. It starts off fine but eventually performance regresses. Once that happens, as soon as I set textures to high, my FPS just about doubles. If I start off with high textures the regression never happens. That doesn't explain the odd performance drops in cinematics though, since even setting textures to low doesn't help with those.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 11:32    Post subject:
I have to say, NPCs are extremely good in this. Especially after seeing footage of Skull and Bones recently Laughing
Facial and character animations and voice acting are all really good (for some exceptions, I guess). The girl teaching you that boardgame stood out for me, as well as the 2 sisters that upgrade the spear.

Combat is fun, exploring (the '?' markers) is rewarding, game looks nice. Story... well... it took me like 8 hours to get into the first one as well, but then it got me hooked until the very end.


There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 11:55    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
I have to say, NPCs are extremely good in this. Especially after seeing footage of Skull and Bones recently Laughing
Facial and character animations and voice acting are all really good (for some exceptions, I guess). The girl teaching you that boardgame stood out for me, as well as the 2 sisters that upgrade the spear.

Combat is fun, exploring (the '?' markers) is rewarding, game looks nice. Story... well... it took me like 8 hours to get into the first one as well, but then it got me hooked until the very end.
NPC's already looked great on the last game... need to go back and finish that one, sort of gave it up after reaching that big wood city.


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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 12:11    Post subject:
One thing about the npcs, almost everyone - like 99% of them are fat. In a post apo, tech-barbarian setting with not a lot of farms and farm animals.


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StEFaN7




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 12:29    Post subject:
everything seems upped from the first game except story so far, the mistery part from the first games is removed


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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 12:48    Post subject:
yeah, that's been the major complaint about the game, how the story sucks. not that i was amazed by the first game's story either but...

i think their games are great when it comes to ranged combat, graphics. the rest, not so much. exploration is kind of weak, very ubisoft like. it's too bad, i'd love a proper RPG with this engine, imagine a Gothic type of game with this world, graphics, combat.. man...
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 12:52    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:
One thing about the npcs, almost everyone - like 99% of them are fat. In a post apo, tech-barbarian setting with not a lot of farms and farm animals.


i also recall a lof of males showing nipples, even male armor which was made to show the nipples. fighting the patriarchy, one step at a time Laughing
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 14:08    Post subject:
Well they also designed aloy's nipples so i dunno. Sony being sony that wss removed though.
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H4wkeye




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 14:56    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
H4wkeye wrote:
I have these weird FPS drops too. The game will run like 100 FPS, all smooth and nice. Then just suddenly looking at one direction it'll drop to like 30-40. And only a full game restart fixes it. Also when you talk to NPCs sometimes the FPS goes to like 20 fps.


Have you tried dropping texture quality? My 10gb VRAM is not enough for max textures at 4K DLSS Performance. It starts off fine but eventually performance regresses. Once that happens, as soon as I set textures to high, my FPS just about doubles. If I start off with high textures the regression never happens. That doesn't explain the odd performance drops in cinematics though, since even setting textures to low doesn't help with those.


I have not. I will try that next. It used to be that performance would drop after like an hour but now it happens in 15 mins. I am in like the 2nd area, before going West.
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Rayque




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 15:20    Post subject:
Can I install elamigos update (Rune/Codex) on FLT release?
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 16:36    Post subject:


May the NFOrce be with you always.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 17:43    Post subject:
a game that is "just good fun" is clearly a 6.5 Laughing
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Divvy




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 17:49    Post subject:
Yeah I think he gave it such a low score just out of principle and spite against console games.


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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 18:36    Post subject:
He constantly complains about the "shit mechanics", even the climbing. i'm not exactly sure how he thinks climbing should work, like you actually have to press a button every time you grab or something, would that really add to the "fun" of climbing? yes you can see her head when she's sneaking in the grass, who the fuck cares, it's better than having xray vision for the player to see where she is. he'd complain even more, or if she wasn't visible at all, he'd complain about that instead lol

the score, eh, it probably should be higher than a 6.5, especially since he constantly says how much better it is than the first game. is the first lower than a 6.5? Clearly not.

I think he knows his audience, they're complainers like me / many of us here, but here i think he went overboard a bit Laughing
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 18:44    Post subject:
If i were to complain about the climbing it would be the shitty overly obvious yellow things. It's just lazy as fuck. I'm used to it and it doesn't bother me, but i can recognize it being lazy and silly.

Maybe we can have a stick to swing the character and a button to jump and a button to grab. That would be fun! The whining due to people constantly falling would be hilarious.

I would be among them though Laughing
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 18:59    Post subject:
it would be very annoying if you couldn't see where you can actually climb though, like you're making a jump and you expect to grab on, and you can't. so was it because you just missed, or was it because this is a place where you just can't climb? no, it wouldn't work well.
would climbing everywhere work? every surface is climbable, you'd really have to design the game around that and it would probably still be so easy for the player to explot it in various ways.
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W123




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 19:14    Post subject:
Watched my wife play this one and even she got tired of the constant NPC tagalongs and them shouting out and nagging what weapons to use on what bosses (TRY POISON!! USE FIRE!!!) Shutup and let the player figure it out!
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StEFaN7




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 19:37    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
it would be very annoying if you couldn't see where you can actually climb though, like you're making a jump and you expect to grab on, and you can't. so was it because you just missed, or was it because this is a place where you just can't climb? no, it wouldn't work well.
would climbing everywhere work? every surface is climbable, you'd really have to design the game around that and it would probably still be so easy for the player to explot it in various ways.


u can disable climbing yellow markers, i think default they are off, only very few show


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vurt




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 19:58    Post subject:
yeah i think when i played it, it's like a few are showing, that's totally fine by me. because it would be ugly if you see like tons of yellow markers all over a level.

W123 wrote:
Watched my wife play this one and even she got tired of the constant NPC tagalongs and them shouting out and nagging what weapons to use on what bosses (TRY POISON!! USE FIRE!!!) Shutup and let the player figure it out!


companions overall in games is Rolling Eyes
i don't mind if its there for story reasons once in a while, but this game leans into it very heavily, at least in the start. it's an annoyance for sure and it doesn't add anything. it's not like anyone believe you suddenly have a real life friend you're playing with or whatever they're thinking it's supposed to add. embarrassing. AI is still super, super weak in games, use it as little as possible and leave it to the player when you can.
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Mar 2024 20:17    Post subject:
Well of course its weak. Imagine if you're mediocre or lower and the AI just pluck everyone down in a few seconds. Even as a skilled player that would be annoying. But naturally they need to find some balance. It's shitty if it's too weak also, just feels pointless then
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