Gothic 1 Remake [TBA]
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W123




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Aug 2022 20:07    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Looks great, competent. I've been kind of confident since the demo anyways..


that doesn't inspire much confidence Cool

i hope this turns out great but judging from their first showing, they didn't quite "get" Gothic. And yeah they listened to feedback and blablabla, i get it. But if they had to basically scrap that whole demo they showed, who knows what else they will fuck up.

I truly hope i'm wrong.. because this teaser looks excellent... doesn't ooze xbox360 like the previous demo, teaser, whateverthehell it was.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Aug 2022 00:58    Post subject:
Well, the teaser was probably made on a shoestring budget, seeing how the studio that's making the remake officialy came into existence months after it was released.

BTW, The mine looks exactly as I remember it from the original, but I am looking at it through rose tinted glasses and processing with my age addled mind.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Aug 2022 06:51    Post subject:
Gothic 1 is a game from another tine. It was magical because of its open quest driven world and atmosphere. And despite its shortcomings there was nothing like it. I doubt that magic can be recaptured in any kind of form.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Aug 2022 06:52    Post subject:
Teaser was made in a few months time so yeah, pretty competent group of people. The idea was from team/publisher to see reactions + get input.. "what can we get away with". It was fine for what it was considering time limit / budget.

It will be another open world RPG and to me that's great, it will likely be more fun than UBI "rpgs" at least (i think they're decent, but not amazing by any stretch of the imagination). It might be quite a bit better than Elex 2 even Wink

Will it feel like playing Gothic 1 just like it felt 20+ years ago, no.
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W123




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Aug 2022 05:57    Post subject:
Nice. Gothic 3 had a beauty of a soundtrack too. Steaming pile of crap of a game otherwise.
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PostPosted: Sat, 12th Aug 2023 01:23    Post subject:


Nice how it's instantly recognisable. Hopefully the gameplay is as well!
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2023 05:48    Post subject:
That trailer is so great, seen it several times.

"In-game" though, i wonder. Look at the scene where he's thrown out of that house, he takes him up from the ground and beats him and your character bumps into him. That's better than something coming from Rockstar. Animations are too detailed and fluid for me to think its in-game, or at least something that could stay that way.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2023 06:20    Post subject:
That video is one giant bullshot
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vurt




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2023 06:28    Post subject:
yeah, they should've tuned it down a notch Razz

I mean it's unprecedented for a game to have such animations in-game. The graphics otherwise, sure, maybe. But this isn't Rockstar budget, not even close so i'm gonna hold my hype-horse when it comes to what it will actually look like in-game.

on the other hand, i see no one questioning it in the comments so yes, it created hype. Any investors + publisher is most likely super happy. I like the trailer too but i don't believe for a second it will look like that Wink
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2023 07:35    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
That trailer is so great, seen it several times.

"In-game" though, i wonder. Look at the scene where he's thrown out of that house, he takes him up from the ground and beats him and your character bumps into him. That's better than something coming from Rockstar. Animations are too detailed and fluid for me to think its in-game, or at least something that could stay that way.


It's not in-game though.



"Welcome to the Old Camp in the Valley of Mines. Take a stroll through the camp, meet friendly locals, or go sightseeing. The Arena is said to be especially lovely at this time of the year!

Gothic 1 Remake is coming to PC, PlayStation 5, and Xbox Series X|S.

All footage captured in-engine. "
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2023 07:43    Post subject:
ok but 'm not even sure i've seen in-engine cut-scenes having animations like that to be honest, only rendered ones.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2023 08:14    Post subject:
Well it's definitely staged, but untill we see actual ingame footage it's hard to say what quality the animations are.
At least the graphics look fine, though they went a bit too far with the gritty realism desaturation nonsense.


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2023 08:25    Post subject:
The in-engine graphics you mean? Wink

I much rather want a realistic look than a cartoony though, i really would have hated if it looked like My Time at Sandrock or similar "because the original was clearly meant to look cartoonish" or some BS...

I noticed for the previous fly-through video they don't mention anything about their engine at all, why i wonder, if that's also in-engine, aren't they proud and want to make sure we know it..

I don't want to be too negative though, i still think this will be good.
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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Aug 2023 09:09    Post subject:
I actually meant how things like the buildings, armors, clothes feel like the good old Old Camp, just with modern graphics.

I'm also cautiously optimistic, it feels different than the teaser.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Apr 2024 15:41    Post subject:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1297900/eventcomments/4356745682749116275?snr=1_2108_4__2107

they've never announced a release date but they now announce that you can pre-order and it says " DIESER ARTIKEL ERSCHEINT AM 31. DEZEMBER 2024"

if there was any kind of confidence that it'll be released at that date then i think we would've gotten a release date announcement first. This makes it look very fishy.
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May the NFOrce be with you always.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 02:09    Post subject:
What a piece of shit CE Laughing
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 04:36    Post subject:
200 fucking Euros for this Laughing

Embracer has to recoup those saudi deal losses somehow I guess Laughing

To think I got a Sleeper medallion (made from some sort of metal) and playing cards with the normal version of Gothic 1 back in the day. But that was good old CD Projekt, when they were still just a privately owned publisher.

Nowadays it would be a Deluxe version at least.

Also, STILL no goddamn gameplay video.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 04:38    Post subject:
I've still got the sealed Gothic 1 (and 2) big box. So that's what's inside Laughing
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 04:42    Post subject:
No idea what's in your version, CDProjekt used to go above and beyond with this stuff.


sin317 wrote:

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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 07:13    Post subject:
LMAO a dollar store leather portfolio and belt. What the fuck??! God thats the funniest thing I've seen in a long time. I lost it when they started flipping through the 99 cent pad of paper pages.

You know what? Gothic has always had an air of shittiness about it, but in a good way. So i'm all right with this.. maybe they're self aware enough to know how ridiculous this looks?
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 07:23    Post subject:
Bendi wrote:
No idea what's in your version, CDProjekt used to go above and beyond with this stuff.

Wasn’t Piranha bytes the dev for the first 2 gothics too?
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 08:04    Post subject:
aevis wrote:
Bendi wrote:
No idea what's in your version, CDProjekt used to go above and beyond with this stuff.

Wasn’t Piranha bytes the dev for the first 2 gothics too?


I'm talking about CDProjekt the publisher/distributor.* In the late 90's and early 00's they only published games from other devs and always did a full polish localisation, which is part of the reason Gothic is a cult classic here. And when western publishers started skimming on additional goodies in boxed copies ( like a manual xD) they still added stuff like the medalion and cards in my copy of the game as a standard.
That's why I have no idea what's inside Interinactive's sealed copy. Could be some drop bear repellant, idk.


* Well technically they're still a publisher, but it's for their own games now.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 08:11    Post subject:
Pretty sure my copies aren't anything special. Gothic 2 is ATARI branded and from Australia, Gothic 1 is XICAT and from North America

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Still, a big box copy of any game feels better than what you get these days. And they didn't cost 200 euros
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 08:33    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Pretty sure my copies aren't anything special. Gothic 2 is ATARI branded and from Australia, Gothic 1 is XICAT and from North America




Out of curiosity found a copy of the xicat G1 on ebay, there's a short manual and CD's. That's it.

Interinactive wrote:
Still, a big box copy of any game feels better than what you get these days. And they didn't cost 200 euros



The most expensive CE I've ever bought was Witcher 3 at 349PLN I think (I resold it for 3 times the price Smile ) and it had soo many goodies it's almost ridiculous when you compare it to this bullshit.

Medallion, map, 26cm figure of Geralt fighting a Griffon, Artboook, stickers, big ass box, soundtrack, manual, lorebook, steelbook (metal case for the dvd's).
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Apr 2024 08:46    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
Pretty sure my copies aren't anything special. Gothic 2 is ATARI branded and from Australia, Gothic 1 is XICAT and from North America

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Still, a big box copy of any game feels better than what you get these days. And they didn't cost 200 euros


Cool! do you have an image of your entire collection?
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Apr 2024 18:14    Post subject:
Nice to hear that they have people from the Chronicles Of Myrtana team onboard... (reading one of the devs comments on the Steam forum)

they should've done a separate steam update on that alone, it would get people more hyped than this pre-order garbage that only seem to have made people angry.
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PostPosted: Sat, 27th Apr 2024 19:44    Post subject:
Uhh yeah, that's actually excellent news. CoM was a ton of fun and they nailed it, aside from some busy work and too much backtracking.
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PostPosted: Sun, 28th Apr 2024 15:39    Post subject:
After replaying through Gothic 1 last month (Union patch + DX11 renderer + HD textures + various QoL mods) the only aspects that I'd improve in a remake would be the backtracking (which becomes a bit of a nuisance at some point despite the various teleportation runes/spells), the way the combat progressively gets cheese-able (a Piranha trademark, though it nullifies the sense of reward), and of course inventory management since the vanilla one is on the clumsy side.

Everything else still works very well, from the tangible sense of immersion completely free from hand-holding to the dialogues/encounters, the world-building, exploration and progression system. Just make the controlling scheme slimmer (akin to Gothic 2), improve the animations alongside the visual upgrade, et voilà. I fear however that the changes will be more drastic for modern reasons, but there's no gameplay yet so at the moment it's difficult to judge. The old demo was honestly too awful to be taken seriously, let's hope they've thrown all that garbage to the Swampsharks Razz
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