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PostPosted: Sat, 4th May 2024 11:43    Post subject:


Quite a few good mods already available and compatible with the latest update.

"Load Accelerator" in particular is a lifesaver Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th May 2024 20:25    Post subject:
i hope every last mofo working at behtesda regrets their life and gets depressed when they think they worked on this star shit in stead of a new elder scrolls and fallout game ...

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PostPosted: Sat, 4th May 2024 23:42    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRta_GJe8mg

Quite a few good mods already available and compatible with the latest update.

"Load Accelerator" in particular is a lifesaver Very Happy


LA is pretty old, this one fixes more and does a similar thing. It was also updated today:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798
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PostPosted: Sun, 5th May 2024 03:01    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:

this one fixes more and does a similar thing. It was also updated today:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798


Well thank you sir Smile So far I haven't had any stuttering whatsoever but this fix alone makes that mod worth it:

"Untie the game speed from the framerate, allowing you to play at any FPS values at normal speed"
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th May 2024 10:51    Post subject:
Man why is this game so damn bad? I enjoyed my crazy playthroughs of 3 and NW (i thought NW was overated but still jolly good fun) but 4 is losing me. It's just a sterile experience so far. Pick up melons, turn some valves, escort a bunch for 20 minutes to sanctuary to start building fucking furniture. At no point have i found anything interesting when exploring. Just bandits/ghouls and magazines. And my next main objective is across the whole map.
What the fuck is this shit?
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th May 2024 12:26    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
4treyu wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRta_GJe8mg

Quite a few good mods already available and compatible with the latest update.

"Load Accelerator" in particular is a lifesaver Very Happy


LA is pretty old, this one fixes more and does a similar thing. It was also updated today:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798


This one looks so damn good on paper... but doesn't fix shit here. Sad

The only way to get stable 60FPS is still Special K.

No F4SE plugins, no .ini tweaks, only Special K...


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PostPosted: Mon, 6th May 2024 20:38    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Interinactive wrote:

LA is pretty old, this one fixes more and does a similar thing. It was also updated today:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798


This one looks so damn good on paper... but doesn't fix shit here. Sad

The only way to get stable 60FPS is still Special K.

No F4SE plugins, no .ini tweaks, only Special K...


Wait, that's weird, what specs are you on? I was playing @ constant 60 fps (all settings at max values) until Interinactive suggested that great mod, and now I'm not sure if it's ever going below 140 which is the cap I'm using now after installing the mod.

I play @ native 1080p though Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th May 2024 20:43    Post subject:
I play at 120 fps with that mod. I used Special K for 3 and NW and that was because without it the game would crash when i alt tabbed. Here i haven't needed it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th May 2024 22:55    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Interinactive wrote:

LA is pretty old, this one fixes more and does a similar thing. It was also updated today:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798


This one looks so damn good on paper... but doesn't fix shit here. Sad

The only way to get stable 60FPS is still Special K.

No F4SE plugins, no .ini tweaks, only Special K...


Wait, that's weird, what specs are you on?


2560x1080
3070Ti
i5 13600k
SSD NVMe

So far - eh! - managed to get some good ole' mods I used ages ago, that don't need MO2 or F4SE...

But it's still VERY annoying how, once I start the game without Special K, everything starts to crawl towards very low framerate.

WTF, man!

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PostPosted: Mon, 6th May 2024 23:11    Post subject:
Yeah doesn't make sense with that resolution and your CPU + GFX card combo which is a step above mine (Ryzen 3700X + 3060 Ti).
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th May 2024 23:30    Post subject:
60FPS seems low for that hardware

I've never used Special K with the game and I typically get ~100FPS with a 3080 (~120 with a 4080). What mods are you using? Got ENB in there or something?

Stormwolf wrote:
Man why is this game so damn bad? I enjoyed my crazy playthroughs of 3 and NW (i thought NW was overated but still jolly good fun) but 4 is losing me. It's just a sterile experience so far. Pick up melons, turn some valves, escort a bunch for 20 minutes to sanctuary to start building fucking furniture. At no point have i found anything interesting when exploring. Just bandits/ghouls and magazines. And my next main objective is across the whole map.
What the fuck is this shit?


Because it sucks. Unless you enjoy turning it into a survival simulator, there's not much meat on its bones. Quests suck, characters suck, followers suck, dialogue sucks (and so on). Starfield is like FO4 in many regards, but without an interesting world to explore, so it sort of highlighted what Bethesda are really average at doing.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th May 2024 06:22    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
60FPS seems low for that hardware

I've never used Special K with the game and I typically get ~100FPS with a 3080 (~120 with a 4080). What mods are you using? Got ENB in there or something?

Stormwolf wrote:
Man why is this game so damn bad? I enjoyed my crazy playthroughs of 3 and NW (i thought NW was overated but still jolly good fun) but 4 is losing me. It's just a sterile experience so far. Pick up melons, turn some valves, escort a bunch for 20 minutes to sanctuary to start building fucking furniture. At no point have i found anything interesting when exploring. Just bandits/ghouls and magazines. And my next main objective is across the whole map.
What the fuck is this shit?


Because it sucks. Unless you enjoy turning it into a survival simulator, there's not much meat on its bones. Quests suck, characters suck, followers suck, dialogue sucks (and so on). Starfield is like FO4 in many regards, but without an interesting world to explore, so it sort of highlighted what Bethesda are really average at doing.


It did get a tiny bit better when i reached diamond city, but these auto engage conversations are driving me mad. And when tou deliver quest to sitting people it doesnt always work until he/she stands up...

I do take issue with the perk system. There are such big gaps between skills it feels like you'll shoot yourself in the foot if you don't go for it. Like gun upgrade is 20% damage pr level, But then you might not br able to craft any gun or armor upgrades and run around in shit gear that gets you massacred before you see the enemy.. Naturally this will mellow out on later levels and like fallout 3 and nw you spend time figuring out what shit perk is least shit tobput points in.
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th May 2024 12:22    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
60FPS seems low for that hardware

I've never used Special K with the game and I typically get ~100FPS with a 3080 (~120 with a 4080). What mods are you using? Got ENB in there or something?


Mods used:

• Even Louder Footsteps Sound
• Realistic Movement Speed
• Button Lowered Weapons
• VividFallout - All in One

No ENB!

I am also just capping framerate at 60 (as with most games).

But the issue is that the game goes WAY BELOW that 60 FPS point, in many instances, with or without MSI Afterburner, ipresentinterval = below9000 etc. By some magnificent miracle!!11, once I run the game via Special K, everything is butter-smooth...

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@Stormwolf

If you play it for the story, dialogue or characters, you will probably be disappointed.

I chose to enjoy it for the world: worldbuilding, discovery, exploration, then a bit of character progression, some cool immersion factors and ultimately for reaching Far Harbor (a very well recieved piece of DLC).


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th May 2024 13:12    Post subject:
This is with 206 mods installed @ 1440p maxed out + some visual mods. There's also a mod that adds collision to dead bodies. It starts at ~120FPS and eventually lowers to ~30 at times. The point of this is to stress it out and see if it crumbles. With some AI mods it would (PANPC is a big offender), but I've got it running pretty smoothly:



I love it at 7:00 when the 40mm grenade hits the crowd with the ensuing explosion

Obviously 1 little scripting error or conflict can still tank it, but I think it's pretty impressive to be doing all of that with physics / body parts flying / bullets flying (physics based mod) / hundreds of AI fighting all at once for a sustained period of time, in an area that typically runs poorly. Most of the time you will be lucky to be fighting ~10 NPCs, so the FPS will never tank that bad in regular gameplay conditions. It was still at ~70FPS with the first 100 NPCs were added.

If this can sustain itself, it's somewhat safe to start a new game with these mods. I don't think the amount matters as much as what they do. Can't tell why you're getting 60 (or less) still, that seems really low

Make sure the official DLC textures aren't installed, they will tank your performance a bit
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th May 2024 14:05    Post subject:
No official textures installed.

I suspect the issue is related to V-Sync (?).

Or... shitty engine (?).

Or... issues with 13x series Intel CPUs (?).

Or... simply Todd (!)!


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PostPosted: Tue, 7th May 2024 19:36    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
No official textures installed.

I suspect the issue is related to V-Sync (?).

Or... shitty engine (?).

Or... issues with 13x series Intel CPUs (?).

Or... simply Todd (!)!
Nuke your ini's, let the game regenerate them and see how the game runs then.
After that I'd give bethini a try:
https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/631


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Fallout 4 is the most boring of the three "new" FO games. I've played it twice but I don't remember the storyline.

Currently installing New Vegas with X amount of mods.


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th May 2024 00:05    Post subject:
This guy's making so many good lore friendly weapons:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/82296
https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/DegenerateDak/mods?gameId=1151

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PostPosted: Wed, 8th May 2024 00:14    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
No official textures installed.

I suspect the issue is related to V-Sync (?).

Or... shitty engine (?).

Or... issues with 13x series Intel CPUs (?).

Or... simply Todd (!)!
Nuke your ini's, let the game regenerate them and see how the game runs then.
After that I'd give bethini a try:
https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/631


I never got the game on this install of Win (10), so those ini's are 'fresh'. Even without tweaks or mods the game ran on default inis like ass from the start.

But I'll take a look at that Bethini, though.


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th May 2024 07:57    Post subject:
I just cannot. Every single point i explore is a hour long dungeon of savescumming and fucking breakdancing enemies. Exploration has not yielded anything of real interest yet, and then you say the story is terrible also. Maybe the dlc's is the content that elevates this game above crap
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PostPosted: Wed, 8th May 2024 09:35    Post subject:
Far Harbour is what the whole game should have been, Nuka World is the drizzling shits


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PostPosted: Wed, 8th May 2024 09:49    Post subject:


Pretty cool, never saw this before. YT comment:

Quote:
You can definitely tell from those animations that the Vertibirds in Fallout 4 are just modified Skyrim dragons. When you tried to hover at a higher altitude and it dipped down and around first - that's the Skyrim dragon pathfinding code working its... magic?


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th May 2024 10:51    Post subject:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallout-4-first-patch-since-next-gen-update-will-add-new-graphics-and-performance-settings/1100-6523356/

"Sounds like fixes for Fallout 4's lackluster next-gen update are on the way."

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PostPosted: Sat, 11th May 2024 23:18    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Or... issues with 13x series Intel CPUs (?)


This was the "issue"!

I disabled all E-cores in BIOS and game runs fine now, without Special K. No more drops, stuttering or other shenanigans. I had even worse problems (1/2 FPS and E-cores active only) in Starfield also...

Probably should upgrade to Windows 11. Sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th May 2024 23:42    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
Or... issues with 13x series Intel CPUs (?)


This was the "issue"!

I disabled all E-cores in BIOS and game runs fine now, without Special K. No more drops, stuttering or other shenanigans. I had even worse problems (1/2 FPS and E-cores active only) in Starfield also...

Probably should upgrade to Windows 11. Sad
Wow. Makes sense since the 13x CPU's didn't exist back in 2015, right? Hopefully bethesda will release some sort of update to the game to add some new requested features and solve problems like that...


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th May 2024 02:48    Post subject:
The video I posted above is on a 13700k Confused

So Win10 is messing it up?
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th May 2024 08:02    Post subject:
Might be.

Some info here:

(Windows 10 & Intel Core i9-12900K Alder Lake Performance Review - E-Cores Causing Any Trouble?) - https://www.techpowerup.com/review/alder-lake-windows-10-performance/8.html


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