The Forever Winter (co-op PvEvE) [Early Access]
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Mefix




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Jun 2024 20:47    Post subject: The Forever Winter (co-op PvEvE) [Early Access]


The Forever Winter is a co-op tactical survival horror shooter where you and your squad must loot the dead to survive under the shadow of terrifying and gargantuan war machines locked in a never-ending conflict.



https://store.steampowered.com/app/2828860/The_Forever_Winter/
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Mefix




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2024 17:20    Post subject:
Early Access September 24, refreshing tone of announcement
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2024 17:23    Post subject:
Mefix wrote:
Early Access September 24, refreshing tone of announcement


I cant take a trailer seriously if it does not include a black guy rapping and explosions.


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2024 17:55    Post subject:
I am not that interested in this game, but the announcement above is so down-to-earth and honest that I might buy into EA just to support these guys.


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lametta




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PostPosted: Fri, 30th Aug 2024 22:16    Post subject:
Damn this game looks crazy
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friketje




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 08:24    Post subject:
WAB guy: can play his game with is ancient rig-it's great!!
Can't play his game with his ancient rig-boohhhh
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lametta




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 11:16    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
WAB guy: can play his game with is ancient rig-it's great!!
Can't play his game with his ancient rig-boohhhh

disregarding RT
In most games a 2080 seems to be similar to a 3060 or 3060 ti lol
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JHawkins




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 11:33    Post subject:
Unfortunately the Water Mechanic kills the game for me, unless theyve changed it since ive read about it. If you take a break your Water still gets consumed and if you dont have enough first Mercenaries and Merchants leave, if you hit zero your entire Stash goes poof.


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 13:28    Post subject:
JHawkins wrote:
Unfortunately the Water Mechanic kills the game for me, unless theyve changed it since ive read about it. If you take a break your Water still gets consumed and if you dont have enough first Mercenaries and Merchants leave, if you hit zero your entire Stash goes poof.


Ahh Player retention focused design and shitty a dime a dozen super grindy survival skinner's box games.
Why do people even?
>POQSDFPOQJF is an early access open world survival crafting game

^^There's all your obvious red flags for any game right there.
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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 16:15    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
WAB guy: can play his game with is ancient rig-it's great!!
Can't play his game with his ancient rig-boohhhh


To be fair, his rig is more representative of what the average consumer has then most other reviewers' rigs, and I do think there is value in that.
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 17:51    Post subject:
wym you dont have a 4090Ti Super?? Nvidia doesn't send you free samples???
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friketje




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 20:01    Post subject:
Kezmark wrote:
friketje wrote:
WAB guy: can play his game with is ancient rig-it's great!!
Can't play his game with his ancient rig-boohhhh


To be fair, his rig is more representative of what the average consumer has then most other reviewers' rigs, and I do think there is value in that.


But his rig is probably 6 years old. CPU is old, ram slower, it all adds up. Perhaps dust en wear has an impact on performance.
It's close to end of life. It's hard to compare his performance with a newer mid range system.

And I think it's hilarious this guy plays games for a living and is to cheap to upgrade Laughing
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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 20:28    Post subject:
I dunno man, outside of the 4060 variants, there's no 40 series card in the top 10 of steam hardware survey as of august. There's still 2060 cards and even 1650 and 1060. The most popular is the 3060, which is weaker then the 2080 still. In fact, in the top 10 cards, only the 4060TI outright beats it, with the normal 4060 being about the same, depending on game, if you ignore frame gen.

CPU, with the exception of a few games, will hardly be a bottleneck when paired with this level of GPU, same with ram. It would be a bigger difference on AMD, but even then, you way overestimate what ddr5 does over 4 for gaming.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 20:39    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
And I think it's hilarious this guy plays games for a living and is to cheap to upgrade Laughing


I don't think he didn't' upgrade.

ANY GAMER would immediately upgrade it's PC if it had the means (aka money). He does / has plenty.

He keeps the 'modest' PC up front to probably maintain a certain image. That he's modest? Poor? Shows solidarity towards majority of gamers? Who the f**k knows... ?!

But I am sure he's got another, better PC.


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2024 21:03    Post subject:
Regardless the reason, it's fucking stupid
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2024 10:31    Post subject:
im pretty sure he has another more "up to date" pc, but like alot of reviewers will test a game on several rigs. i am almost sure in the past he mentioned he uses the older rig as its a bit more akin to what rigs the average joe/joanne would have - i will say losing your entire stash if you dont play the game for a period of time is REALLY dumb


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friketje




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2024 15:52    Post subject:
D34Dite wrote:
im pretty sure he has another more "up to date" pc, but like alot of reviewers will test a game on several rigs. i am almost sure in the past he mentioned he uses the older rig as its a bit more akin to what rigs the average joe/joanne would have - i will say losing your entire stash if you dont play the game for a period of time is REALLY dumb


100% sure he has not. In this review he refers to friends with better hardware to compare performance. He always mentions his "2080". Game is gut if it runs on his 2080, bad if it isn't.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2024 18:33    Post subject:
2080 is a 4060. If a game doesn't run well on a 4060 at 1080p = bad, yes. I don't see where the problem is.
Yes we get it if you are a rich man with a 4090, good for you. Here's a pat on the back of your head, a really hard one so you're more in touch with how it is for the majority.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2024 18:38    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
2080 is a 4060. If a game doesn't run well on a 4060 at 1080p = bad, yes. I don't see where the problem is.
Yes we get it if you are a rich man with a 4090, good for you. Here's a pat on the back of your head, a really hard one so you're more in touch with how it is for the majority.


Are you forgetting DLSS3 for 4060 on purpose? Laughing While they might be as powerful-ish hardware wise, the technology of the 4060 puts it miles ahead
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Stige




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2024 18:45    Post subject:
This looks so nice, but fuck only being PVE/Coop, that's gonna get boring fast Sad
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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2024 19:14    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
FireMaster wrote:
2080 is a 4060. If a game doesn't run well on a 4060 at 1080p = bad, yes. I don't see where the problem is.
Yes we get it if you are a rich man with a 4090, good for you. Here's a pat on the back of your head, a really hard one so you're more in touch with how it is for the majority.


Are you forgetting DLSS3 for 4060 on purpose? Laughing While they might be as powerful-ish hardware wise, the technology of the 4060 puts it miles ahead


I didn't count framegen and I honestly do not consider it as a solution unless your GPU is already pumping out 60+ FPS without it. Using frame gen on lower frames just turns the experience into a garbled visual mess with very noticeable input lag.

If a dev does not meet the current standard of 4060/3060 1080p that is on them, not the consumer.
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friketje




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2024 22:32    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
FireMaster wrote:
2080 is a 4060. If a game doesn't run well on a 4060 at 1080p = bad, yes. I don't see where the problem is.
Yes we get it if you are a rich man with a 4090, good for you. Here's a pat on the back of your head, a really hard one so you're more in touch with how it is for the majority.


Are you forgetting DLSS3 for 4060 on purpose? Laughing While they might be as powerful-ish hardware wise, the technology of the 4060 puts it miles ahead


I didn't count framegen and I honestly do not consider it as a solution unless your GPU is already pumping out 60+ FPS without it. Using frame gen on lower frames just turns the experience into a garbled visual mess with very noticeable input lag.

If a dev does not meet the current standard of 4060/3060 1080p that is on them, not the consumer.


I replaced my broken 2070 super with a 4060 for the time being (waiting for the 50 series comes out for a new rig). I just wanted the cheapest (new) solution to add a couple of months for my ancient rig and didn't want do buy a second hand GPU. Expected samish performance compared to a 2070 but the 4060 is so much better.
It's the difference between unstable 45 ish fps and stable 60+ at 1440p
And with the 4060 I turn ray tracing on while this was a no go with the 2070. Without ray tracing it's about 2 times faster.
It's so much better, feels like a new rig. Input lag doesn't matter if FPS doubles.
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