STALKER 2: Heart of Chornobyl [Early Access]
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friketje




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 14:09    Post subject:
Those tables are usesless als always. What is a high graphics pre set?? With or without upscaling? ray tracing yes or no??
The 4060 is for "medium" settings. But it has DLSS 3, that's huge. Also fixes the VRAM issue for that card compared to a 3070TI.
I own one (bought it as a budget replacement option in my aging rig):
Awsome card. Just 1440 P/high settings/moderate ray tracing every game at 60fps.
It shouldn't be able to do that, but it can cause of DLSS 3. Turn off the frame generation and you'll get the kind of perfomance you'd expect from a budget card with way to little vram though.

The table seems samish to every other game. If you run current gen games at prefered settings, you'll be fine. Unless the game is poorly optimised, but the table will not tell you that.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 15:19    Post subject:
I don't think the "Medium" in those tables means in-game settings, more like "medium hardware setup". That of course makes it very vague.

I trust more the accompanying benchmarks, but of course, every particular build can be a total different story, especially with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games Cool Face
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 15:31    Post subject:
That table is fucking marketing.

Just iso-dowload the game and see for yourself. It's not like it costs money...

And YOU KNOW there's always some shit video setting(s) that - when you disable it - if doubles your framerate.

Cmon, mEn, it's not like you game on PC since... yesterday.

Or... do you?! Laughing


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friketje




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 16:53    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
That table is fucking marketing.

Just iso-dowload the game and see for yourself. It's not like it costs money...

And YOU KNOW there's always some shit video setting(s) that - when you disable it - if doubles your framerate.

Cmon, mEn, it's not like you game on PC since... yesterday.

Or... do you?! Laughing


True. People still upload those tables here and it is being discussed here, it doesn't mean shit.

Performance for any game is samish anyway, it has to work on a current gen console. If your rig matches that, you're fine. It's not like in the old days when devs just made a benchmark game and were like fuck you, upgrade your hardware or forget about the game.

The only reason a game will not work is optimisation, a messy release. Like Cyberpunk at release. Dragon's Dogma 2 more recently. Games that don't even run well on console.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Nov 2024 17:03    Post subject:
147+ GB preload?

This shit better be fantastic Aww Yeah
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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Nov 2024 18:50    Post subject:
New GeForce driver for this game (Nov. 12, 2024):

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/results/235904/


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 08:46    Post subject:
So... game runs like shit and we are all fucking then? Laughing


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friketje




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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 09:05    Post subject:
We have to wait for the game to release, those tables mean shit.
If they consider the 2070 super and 4060 similar, sure they almost are in 3dmark, in real life it's night and day (owned both). So it is all just a guess by the devs.
And still a lot of questions: what settings did they use for upscaling??

If the devs want sales: the game hase to run well on a current gen console. So it should run like any other game, unless the devs have fucked up. We can only know after release, it's pointless to discuss it beforehand. Unless reviewers say performance is shit. Even then, still have to wait post launch, perhaps a 0-day patch does miracles.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 09:31    Post subject:
...i can't even remember the last time a game didn't run well for me. i absolutely expect it to run well, likely the least of its issues Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 10:36    Post subject:
The benchmarks shown so far are with Max settings, which are almost allways full of bullshit settings that tank your fps for visual gains that only people at Digital Foundry would give a shit about.

I'm sure there's gonna be a decent combination of settings to get a decent balance between visuals and performance.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 11:35    Post subject:
wednesday is release right? day time or evening time (for europe)?

hoping to be able to show it / play it with a friend that day, fan of the first game..
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 11:43    Post subject:
friketje wrote:

The 4060 is for "medium" settings. But it has DLSS 3, that's huge. Also fixes the VRAM issue for that card compared to a 3070TI.
I own one (bought it as a budget replacement option in my aging rig):
Awsome card. Just 1440 P/high settings/moderate ray tracing every game at 60fps.


framegen is useless for low fps, and 60fps was a thing 10 years ago. 4060 is a terrible card, a 4070 is bearly enough for min 90-100fps for that high refresh rate sweet spot with or without some rtx features and this with dlss 2, just look at silent hill 2 remake since its same engine


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 15:45    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
...i can't even remember the last time a game didn't run well for me. i absolutely expect it to run well, likely the least of its issues Laughing


Liar. You played Silent Hill 2 in the open/woods without stuttering ?

/me sense vurt's sarcasm... Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 16:25    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
friketje wrote:

The 4060 is for "medium" settings. But it has DLSS 3, that's huge. Also fixes the VRAM issue for that card compared to a 3070TI.
I own one (bought it as a budget replacement option in my aging rig):
Awsome card. Just 1440 P/high settings/moderate ray tracing every game at 60fps.


framegen is useless for low fps, and 60fps was a thing 10 years ago. 4060 is a terrible card, a 4070 is bearly enough for min 90-100fps for that high refresh rate sweet spot with or without some rtx features and this with dlss 2, just look at silent hill 2 remake since its same engine


It's not a great card. But it runs every game fine 1440P 60FPS, you can even add some ray tracing. I'm happy with it for the moment, bought it at a budget waiting for a gforce 50 something when my 2070 broke down. Without framegen it's shit though, fps drops below 45 and becomes unstable.
Big plus is the low heat generation, so happy with my silent case now. Also doesn't feel like you blow up your hardware at max load, I always had that feeling with my last card (that did blow up in the end Laughing )
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 16:31    Post subject:
yeah at 60fps.....60fps today is the 30fps from yesterday. if u still have a 60hz monitor then sure


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Nov 2024 18:04    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2urY1v2RkMI

Good video, forgot how bonkers the story was as it's been more than a decade since I played the series. Come to think of it, I've never completed either of the three. Dropped them midway through for some reason Laughing



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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 05:16    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
yeah at 60fps.....60fps today is the 30fps from yesterday. if u still have a 60hz monitor then sure


60fps is just fine, I mean unless you're a youtuber that gets his hardware for free to say shit like this and get people to spend money.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 08:17    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
60fps today is the 30fps from yesterday


No.

FireMaster wrote:
60fps is just fine


There ARE biological differences in our eyes so this matter is kinda subjective.

BUT(!) there's a massive difference between 30 and 60 and a kinda 'smaller' one from 60 to onehundredwhatever. EVERYONE(!) will see the blur and jankiness at 30 FPS, but not everyone will be impressed by 120 / 144 FPS versus 60 / 75 FPS.

Test it here if you can (30 / 60 / 75 / 120 / 144 etc): https://www.testufo.com/framerates#count=4&background=stars&pps=960

In the end it's a personal preference but I believe most people could be more than happy to play at 60 / 75FPS and also save some electricity / money by not forcing their videocards to run wild and mostly pointless.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 08:47    Post subject:
For me 165Hz looks clearer and smoother than the others there.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 08:56    Post subject:
It's also a thing of what you are used to.
After upgrading, you can't go back.
If you always owned small cars and go to a luxery car for instance, hard time getting back to those basic car.

And it's about what matters for you. I need a new rig but refuse to go for a high end system with a gforce 40 series cause it's outdated soon.
Hardware/GPU's suck though these days. I have the money to burn, but I don't want a 500 watts plus GPU, i'm done with high end. It's overpriced and unreliable, designed to blow up within 3 years. And the noise Crying or Very sad.
I'll probably end up buying a 5070ti or something, but it's a compromise, think the 70ti cards still demand way to much power.
That's why I said, realy like the 4060. Cheap, does what I want it to do. So cheap i'm not bothered when it breaks down. And it's so silent, I realy like that. 12 GB VRAM is minimum though, that's the only downside, the 8 gigs of VRAM.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 10:18    Post subject:
Going to buy a 5070 next year to play @1440p/60Hz cuz I'm just straight up retarded like that, cuz! Mad
Maximum settings for me until 2028 at least! Fuck Yeah


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friketje




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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 10:53    Post subject:
I don't get it.

I just don't like high end anymore.
If you do, good for you.

Just don't like the heat/noise. Buying a mid end gpu and replacing it with another mid end gpu 2 generations later is fine for me. Also saves a bit of money, you'll end up with a better card in time for less. Also less noise. Better reliability.

Had a 2070 s with 210 watts. Hated the thing. Probably had a bad version (msi ventus oc), but still. Just a crap card, so much heat and noise. And it broke down way to fast cause of heat issues, it had problems after 3 years. Probably bad paste.
A 5070 will probably need 300 watts. I'm not happy with that at all. It's a compromise. A 5090 is no option for me. Way to power intensive.

The 5070ti will do 4k with high frame rate easy btw. It will do fine untill untill the next generation of consoles arrive.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 10:59    Post subject:
I stopped caring about noise when i just decided to put my computer in the room next to my computer/studio/bedroom. I just made a hole through the wall enough for the cables.

Dead quiet.

I am going for the 5090, skipped out on 4090.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 11:09    Post subject:
I have the 4090 and i just can't see any reason to go for the 5090
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 11:15    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
I don't get it.

I just don't like high end anymore.
If you do, good for you.

Just don't like the heat/noise. Buying a mid end gpu and replacing it with another mid end gpu 2 generations later is fine for me. Also saves a bit of money, you'll end up with a better card in time for less. Also less noise. Better reliability.

Had a 2070 s with 210 watts. Hated the thing. Probably had a bad version (msi ventus oc), but still. Just a crap card, so much heat and noise. And it broke down way to fast cause of heat issues, it had problems after 3 years. Probably bad paste.
A 5070 will probably need 300 watts. I'm not happy with that at all. It's a compromise. A 5090 is no option for me. Way to power intensive.

The 5070ti will do 4k with high frame rate easy btw. It will do fine untill untill the next generation of consoles arrive.
My post wasn't a jab at you or anyone else, I'm serious about what I wrote there Laughing
Playing with headphones or my edifiers will drown out any noise, heat is an issue but only in the summer.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 15:00    Post subject:
A 4090 is about twice as fast as my 3080. Some modern games drop to the 30's at worst on my current GPU at 4K DLSS Performance, for example Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk and Silent Hill 2 Remake. So I'd say a 4090 is pretty much the minimum system requirement for running everything maxed out at frickin' 1080p rendering resolution these days.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Nov 2024 15:31    Post subject:
5090 ? What do you guys do for living ? Please teach me.
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