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lametta




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Dec 2024 22:48    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:


Tried mercenary with the premise of freezing my enemies and shuttering them but due to reloading mechanic that just doesn't work.

Skills have either lower damage than your basic attack or higher damage but slower attack rate so in the end the dps feels the same no matter what I use.


Damn bro thats me right there.
I'm using mercenary and i dont use the aoe shotgun/iceblast since its so slow it feels the same as normally shooting the mobs. I mostly use grenades and standard shots. Maybe it's a difficulty thing and i need to play it on a higher difficulty or be in end game for it to make sense. Confused
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W123




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Dec 2024 23:08    Post subject:
Played for an hour or two with the Merc and had a blast. Killed a couple bosses.

Graphics are great, sound effects are punchy, animations are pretty good. Liking all the environments i've seen. Combat is much slower and it's easier to be surrounded and if that happens you are in trouble. Feels more like a wide open Diablo1 in that regard.. if you got surrounded in D1 you were done. I've been saying for years this is the direction this genre should go, forcing players to be more tactical, funneling enemies into obstacles, having to use your environment to keep yourself alive and this isn't quite that, but it's more like it than any ARPG and that includes D2. This is going to be a very divisive game Laughing

Re: rollspam, You can't roll through enemies or attacks, no i-frames so you have to be surprisingly precise with your rolls if you want to avoid damage.

Oh and my biggest reservation was not an issue. I was completely wrong about WASD, it's great! Didn't even try click to move tbh.
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Dec 2024 01:49    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
VonMisk wrote:


Tried mercenary with the premise of freezing my enemies and shuttering them but due to reloading mechanic that just doesn't work.

Skills have either lower damage than your basic attack or higher damage but slower attack rate so in the end the dps feels the same no matter what I use.


Damn bro thats me right there.
I'm using mercenary and i dont use the aoe shotgun/iceblast since its so slow it feels the same as normally shooting the mobs. I mostly use grenades and standard shots. Maybe it's a difficulty thing and i need to play it on a higher difficulty or be in end game for it to make sense. Confused


Get reload nodes from the passive skills tree.
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VonMisk




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Dec 2024 06:34    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
lametta wrote:
VonMisk wrote:


Tried mercenary with the premise of freezing my enemies and shuttering them but due to reloading mechanic that just doesn't work.

Skills have either lower damage than your basic attack or higher damage but slower attack rate so in the end the dps feels the same no matter what I use.


Damn bro thats me right there.
I'm using mercenary and i dont use the aoe shotgun/iceblast since its so slow it feels the same as normally shooting the mobs. I mostly use grenades and standard shots. Maybe it's a difficulty thing and i need to play it on a higher difficulty or be in end game for it to make sense. Confused


Get reload nodes from the passive skills tree.

NVM


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W123




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Dec 2024 08:21    Post subject:
Well they took the constant loot diarrhea of POE1 and made it the complete opposite. Really need to rely on crafting and merchants in this. I expect this to change.. as well as changing some monster speeds etc because they really run up on your grill and are much faster than you even with movement speed mods.
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Dec 2024 09:32    Post subject:
So... this is a FREE game, that costs... 27,75€.

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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Dec 2024 09:59    Post subject:
It doesn't cost anything. When it is released the game will be free, you only pay if you want to play in the beta, and even then, you get currency and whatever else you get in the pack, just like if you buy a normal micro-transaction, so it's not like you pay for game access. You just get it as a bonus.

I like PoE and like the devs so I got it, but yeah, if you're not a big fan, I wouldn't recommended it as it's not finished and there's balancing issues and bugs. Like for example how now, for some reason, I can't upgrade or even identify items, it just "failed to apply" whatever that means, so all my crafting currency and scrolls are useless.
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Nodrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Dec 2024 16:31    Post subject:
So far it's great. Some boss battles are a bit overtuned, there are some bugs and some things that need to improve with the UI. But I'm having a blast. I can't wait to see what the endgame has in store.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Dec 2024 16:43    Post subject:
Act 1 final boss was harder than everything in D4 Very Happy
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0wen




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 00:05    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
So... this is a FREE game, that costs... 27,75€.

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I got lucky and won a copy so getting the $30 in microtransaction money is nice since this is one of those F2P games where you will have to pay for more Stash space so I know all that money will be going toward that once I actually figure out which stashes I need to buy. I think the Stashes are $5 each but I saw a few different ones and since this is my first time playing POE I will wait to buy anything until I really understand all the mechanics.
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blackeyedboy




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 00:26    Post subject:
So... how many years will this be in EA / Beta?

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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 05:23    Post subject:
0wen wrote:
blackeyedboy wrote:
So... this is a FREE game, that costs... 27,75€.

👍


I got lucky and won a copy so getting the $30 in microtransaction money is nice since this is one of those F2P games where you will have to pay for more Stash space so I know all that money will be going toward that once I actually figure out which stashes I need to buy. I think the Stashes are $5 each but I saw a few different ones and since this is my first time playing POE I will wait to buy anything until I really understand all the mechanics.


In PoE1 they had Stash Tab Sales about every 3 weeks, i would wait for now if they do this here as well before buying.


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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 10:39    Post subject:
W123 wrote:
Well they took the constant loot diarrhea of POE1 and made it the complete opposite. Really need to rely on crafting and merchants in this. I expect this to change.. as well as changing some monster speeds etc because they really run up on your grill and are much faster than you even with movement speed mods.

Completely agree on the loot. It is way too scarce and crappy. They seemed to have hinted at something different in their interviews. By no means do I miss/need the loot diarrhoea, but this polar opposite makes the game a bit boring. The selection at vendors is also lacklustre, and thus, I've felt really limited by gear at times.

This is my main gripe with the game, apart from the majority of the optional bosses being either meh or downright fucking annoying time-wasters with no real challenge otherwise. It's just spam attack and dodge roll. It is quite horrible at the beginning of Act 2 so far, where I currently am. Also, a few of the maps are rather terrible to navigate. I downright hated that village with the cultists where you need to cleanse the altars.

Btw, WASD is the only way to go for ranged classes, or so I have found.

Crashes are also rather frequent, unfortunately. Otherwise I agree that the game looks and sounds great. Sometimes, skills do not switch (especially if I use the mouse fro movement), which really sucks.

All in all, I'm glad I managed to grab a giveaway key, but I also wouldn't have paid for ea.

Anyway, anyone wanna team up? Either from the very beginning or from Act 2 onward?


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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 11:05    Post subject:
blackeyedboy wrote:
So... how many years will this be in EA / Beta?

Cool Face

Expect a year, and you might end up being pleasantly surprised if it doesn't.

Or, it might end up being in EA for 18 months. Very Happy So far, there are quite a lot of issues.


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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 11:08    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Act 1 final boss was harder than everything in D4 Very Happy

Yeah, I completed it with a 5-man party at first, after being killed twice almost at the very end of the battle. I did manage to solo it with my sorceress, though (even though I think my merc is superior to her, but whatever. I suppose her DPS/AoE is better, after all).

Also, my spam /off.


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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 14:16    Post subject:
Having played some more, bugs aside, I'm still enjoying it. I did feel really weak because of gear/gems toward the end of chapter 1/start of chapter 2, but it's picked up again and am just clearing the map with my sorc. Gear is still an issue, rings, amulet, gloves are all shit and haven't seen an upgrade in ages. I force upgraded my staff since that's the main dps buff, but outside of that it is a shit experience gear-wise. Fighting a tough boss only for it to drop a bunch of shit magic items at most, is a bit of a fucking cunt move. I don't know why they toned down the loot so much, but it is the main complaint by far at this point.

I don't know if the trial of sekhema is fair, I found it fairly difficult doing 5 tries to finish and get my ascension on a lvl22-23 sorc, and my build seems to be really good so far. I can't imagine it being fun for melee though, with losing honor on getting hit.

Oh, I really do miss having a movement gem. These maps are way too big for this walking bs.
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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 15:19    Post subject:
Agree with the above completely, with the exception of the trial, which I have not gotten to yet.

And yeah, trodding all over each map gets old really, really fast.

Also, most importantly: lower tier skill gems should be upgradeable/mergeable.


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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 15:51    Post subject:
Careful picking your ascension. You cant redo it. Had to start over, I picked the wrong one and was stuck with it..


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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 16:10    Post subject:
FFS...


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briangw




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 17:24    Post subject:
Is this one actually fun? Because I have tried starting the first with multiple classes and they all just feel like a slogfest.
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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 17:27    Post subject:
If you didn't like the first, I find it very unlikely you'll like this one, especially in its current state. I'd say wait until full release and try it then.
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h0rnyfavn
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 17:31    Post subject:
The Count boss is..hard Very Happy My witch couldn't deal with him..she .was getting roflstomped by mobs and constant attacks, her pets kept dying very quickly... This is the first boss that gave me this much trouble.


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SumZero




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 17:32    Post subject:
@h0rnyfavn
For tough fights, I switch to firewall (sorc skill) with raging spirits (also sorc for some reason).
Sure it is a bit cheesy, but a witch with minion damage tree, using archers with poison cloud special that explodes when burning mobs are in it melts nearly anything. And only need two powers on your bar: Firewall, and archers poison cloud.

Normally other than bosses I do 7 warriors, with um..the spike one that makes bugs/scorpions, and zombies that do poison on hit.
7 warriors, 10 zombies, and 12 bugs makes enough of a meat wall things cant get to me.

Well WHAT I was doing before re-rolling due to picking the wrong ascension. Going that path again.
The reason I don't do firewall/srs all the time is it is frankly boring to play. Dont even really need to stop to fight much, world mobs die quikcly as you approach.
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 18:58    Post subject:
That Trial Of Sekhmet is absolutely retarded on melee character, just wow, most frustrating shit ever made.
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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 19:37    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
That Trial Of Sekhmet is absolutely retarded on melee character, just wow, most frustrating shit ever made.

Skill issue... Razz

Nah, just fucking with you. Melee is indeed quite hard. I like the monk, but he's too fragile. And slow, which is surprising. I'm gonna be playing him again tonight, though. Will try WASD controls, as it made all the difference for my merc and sorc. I've only died like twice since switching over, and even those were due to getting myself zerged in a corner.

I also gave the warrior a brief try, but he's just sooooo sloooooooooow. I'll eventually try and git gud, though.


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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Dec 2024 19:40    Post subject:
By the way: anyone else playing merc? How do you progress down the skill tree? I'm not looking for a build per se, but at level 20, I'm starting to hit a point of "what next...?" Somehow, the skill tree doesn't look as interesting as in the 1st game. And especially with the merc, there seem to be so many useless nodes a bit further down.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Dec 2024 04:04    Post subject:


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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Dec 2024 15:50    Post subject:
I started a warrior last night, and even though I was really struggling up until level 5 or so, it has quickly become my favourite class so far. The combat skills are great, the skill tree is really good and powerful, and the character just obliterates everything so far, even bosses. So much fun, and I only have about mid-tier gear (realtive to the start of Act 2, level 17ish).


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Dec 2024 22:57    Post subject:
r3dshift wrote:
I started a warrior last night, and even though I was really struggling up until level 5 or so, it has quickly become my favourite class so far. The combat skills are great, the skill tree is really good and powerful, and the character just obliterates everything so far, even bosses. So much fun, and I only have about mid-tier gear (realtive to the start of Act 2, level 17ish).

What route/path are you doing? I am attempting to by a health regen/leech build and I’ve been solid for most enemies but poisons and some rapid lightening strikes from mobs has decimated me many times. I am wanting to go down the titan ascendancy.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Dec 2024 23:27    Post subject:
Finished all 3 acts on my warrior and now the same shit all over again Very Happy.... I absolutely hate act 2 & 3, ggg has made them so long because every map takes like 3 hours to run through. In full release they need to make some sort of adventure mode like in Diablo, there is no way i will play these acts through every season.
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