Wow, in Germany today, there were some Sapphire Pulse 9070XT to be had for 689€, which is still too much, but anyway, they were sold out after not even 1h30min. Of many bought by bots etc. and some people obviously ordered several where they cancelled the orders, now the same cards became available again but at much higher prices. Turns out their MSRP was just for day one. These fucking scalpers.
This market is such a fucking shitshow. I was seriously considering upgrading my 6900XT for a 9070XT for about 700€ for a 50% increase in Frames after almost 4 years. But even that completely exaggerated price tag is impossible to get. No, you need at least 800 or even 1000€ for fucking 50% more frames after 4 years.
I'm done with this shit for now unless something magically pops up. No time for gaming anyway.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
Wow, in Germany today, there were some Sapphire Pulse 9070XT to be had for 689€, which is still too much, but anyway, they were sold out after not even 1h30min. Of many bought by bots etc. and some people obviously ordered several where they cancelled the orders, now the same cards became available again but at much higher prices. Turns out their MSRP was just for day one. These fucking scalpers.
This market is such a fucking shitshow. I was seriously considering upgrading my 6900XT for a 9070XT for about 700€ for a 50% increase in Frames after almost 4 years. But even that completely exaggerated price tag is impossible to get. No, you need at least 800 or even 1000€ for fucking 50% more frames after 4 years.
I'm done with this shit for now unless something magically pops up. No time for gaming anyway.
5090s that were €4000 here sold out in an hour. Whales and companies that use them for AI will gobble them up at any price.
The new corporate strategy of maximizing fomo through the appearance of limited stock is working out way too well to disappear anytime
however:
even tho I'm sure any fine they get is a negligible fart in the wind of a cost of doing business.
PC gaming is just a bad shitshow no matter how you look at it. Best stay out until and if things become more reasonable.
Nothing will change as long as nitwits keep buying the stuff for 25-60% above MSRP.
I checked one of the main online retailers here in Sweden where they wrote about the new AMD GPU releases:
Quote:
We've now learned how the recommended prices, known as MSRP prices, work for the launch of the AMD Radeon RX 9070 and RX 9070 XT. We are not allowed to say exact prices before the release, but simply explained, they will apply to a limited number of cards.
Some shenanigan going on there.
Quote:
...Unfortunately, we have no opportunity to continue selling cards at MSRP price after the first deliveries are sold out.
No explanation why that is. We already know it's greed and it's made very clear from their "explanation" or lack thereof.
Fuck'em all and may they all develop the worst kind of haemorrhoids there is.
Undervolting the Powercolor RX 9070 XT Red Devil edition (premium card) is a WIN. Undervolt GPU power by ~100-350 mV and you'll see a 150-300+ MHz boost on the GPU and some VRAM boost as well. A bonus is that it at times reach and beat even the 5080 (at least in 3DMark). The Powercolor seems to have some weird issues with overclocking (see the DerBauer video below).
To put it into perspective:
The cheapest 5080 I could find in Sweden is:
1,399 US Dollars!!!! / 1,291 Euros
Cheapest 5070 Ti (because the 5070 is a dead duck best avoided):
1,047 US Dollars / 967 Euros
The cheapest 9070 XT I could find here is:
791 US Dollars / 730 Euros
FSR4 is a great replacement for DLSS since it seems to be very close to the quality of DLSS with this generation. I have no idea how good the frame generation is on the 90xx series though. Using RT/RP in games are still way behind the RTX cards even though it's been improved with this generation. I guess if you ABSOLUTELY need raytraced 4K gaming you might still pay the ridiculous price for a 5080.
Unless you absolutely need the AI capabilities (and 25-75% fake frames) you shouldn't buy them, esp. not the 5070 Ti over the 9070 XT. You'll pay a lot more for a lot less performance. If you really need the AI capabilities, mortgage your house and sell your car so you can buy a 5090. Or better yet, stick with the 4090.
...anyway, I plan on a small upgrade. Replacing my 2060 6GB with a 3060 Ti 8GB... I'll be fine.. I'm sure I will.. I'm not jealous of the new generation of GPU's at all, no sir...
I was thinking about upgrading to one of the XT's possibly if I could get one at/or close to MSRP but that seems to be out of the question. I might just hold off with my 3070 for another generation. Looking at the reviewers benchmarks anyway it seems that AMD might have slightly exagerrated their numbers so is it really worth the 700 euros? I'm not so sure.
Yeah, AMD and it's partners messed up this release. They had a chance to outprice Nvidia and earn a ton of customers and fans from pricing and goodwill but.. greed.
Great and exhaustive review. It would be interesting to see a small re-review in ~12 months when new games have been released/patched to support the new features from AMD like FSR4 etc. since old and most current games tend to support very little of AMD's features.
OptiScaler mod adds AMD FSR 4 support to DLSS-supporting games
AMD's 4th Generation FidelityFX Super Resolution image upscaling technology with frame generation is a very promising feature of the company's latest Radeon RX 9000-series, but for now it is officially supported by a limited number of games. Nonetheless, modders have found a way to add FSR 4 to any game that supports Nvidia's DLSS2 or newer or Intel's XeSS, reports VideoCardz.
To do so, they invented the OptiScaler app that can enable FSR 4 in all games supporting Intel's XeSS and/or Nvidia DLSS2 or newer machine learning-based upscaling technologies. Additionally, OptiScaler adds support for frame generation and anti-lag features, enhancing gaming performance in titles that for now lack these options officially.
For obvious reasons, FSR 4 only works on AMD's Radeon RX 9070 and RX 9070 XT graphics cards for now. FSR 4 does not work on older RDNA 3-based graphics cards, and attempting to enable it without the required ML-based upscaling hardware will hardly lead to any performance or quality improvements. In fact, this may well cause major stability issues.
FSR4's performance mode looks better than FSR 3.1.3's quality setting.
Got myself a 9070XT (ASUS Prime OC) at 689€ MSRP. I'm not a fan of ASUS, but the card works well. Its by far not as sturdy and well-crafted as my old 6900XT Reference card was.
It doesnt have much OC headroom. After some extensive fiddling, I get about 7% more Performance for 10% more PL. Which, honestly is negligible in real world usage beyond benchmarking.
But what is more interesting is that with some core UV and Mem OC, I get a tiny bit more than Stock performance but with -15% PL. Considering this is an OC card, I top out at 269W TBP.
That means the card can be almost silent, cool and pretty efficient.
Adding to that, FSR4 is on another level compared to FSR2/3.1 and with Optiscaler you can add FSR4 to almost any game that supports DLSS/FSR2/3.1.
Now if only I had time to play.
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