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vurt
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yeah could be fun haha
...out of GROK3 messages for 2h.. using chatGPT 4o. it has fixed some stuff in 900+ lines of code. i want it all back with fixes:
It sends 86 lines;
"Here's the script with the fixes!"
"No it's not, it's 86 lines, send the whole thing."
"You're absolutely right! I need to send the whole script, i will do that now!"
so it sends 106 lines. etc etc etc
Jesus christ. i'm at 114 lines now i only have to repeat that i want the entire script like 100 more times. i've even told it to really check that it's on line 900 before sending.
Nope, it doesn't care. so stupid. also for every time it re-edits the script (very slowly) it really is the worst of the bunch. i've unsubbed.
DeepSeek, it tried the same thing (just giving me the changes, even though i said i wanted the full script). I told it and instantly it understood the mistake and sent the 900+ lines, zero issues + way faster than ChatGPT.
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| Posted: Sun, 9th Mar 2025 16:29 Post subject: |
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Advanced programming  
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Ankh
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Mar 2025 20:42 Post subject: |
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Any suggestion on what ai to go for if i want my pc to have an assistant? I want one with lots of options...perhaps i should get one that includes hardware.. dunno, ideas?
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Mar 2025 08:03 Post subject: |
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There isn't any.
Manus AI is promising, but still in early development.
But seriously: do you want an AI roaming the web for you and have acces to all your personal stuff on the web??
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Ankh
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2025 18:22 Post subject: |
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What kind of assistant? Thats a broad area to cover, and you'd need one 'the least bad' at the thing you want.
Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
Sure, but you will quickly find that your extremism makes us unable to agree what a mental patient is. So it is truly no point in doing so. Copy this quote as well, or shall I?
-Stormwolf
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Mar 2025 18:30 Post subject: |
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| SumZero wrote: |
Using AI to code isn't "make it so" it is more akin to hiring a fresh out of college C average grade programming student you assign basic coding tasks to, and have to double-check their work constantly, and get him to fix amateur mistakes...over and over. As he makes new ones trying to fix his old ones. |
I take this back. After the "Can it make an OS?" discussion and trying to test it to see if its good at any lengthy programming, I think a fresh out of school barely passed software engineer is miles better than it.
It kept forgetting changes it made the response before it, would randomly change parts for no reason, or anything more than say 200 lines of code just forget entire chunks of code it already had.
Trying to make it reference multiple flies that call each other? No matter which 'major' AI client I tried it just starts stumbling over itself breaking a broken thing more, that I need to debug longer to tell it what it did wrong than it would have taken to fix it manually myself.
But if I do that, I have to retell it 'this is the new code to use" and its hit or miss if it remembers that exact code, or starts smashing it together with previous broken responses it gave.
Unless you are already good at coding yourself, and know the coding language it's doing it in so you can handhold it to do it. Is not good at coding, its just good at stopping you from having to type it all out by hand, in exchanging for going over all of it by eye.
Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
Sure, but you will quickly find that your extremism makes us unable to agree what a mental patient is. So it is truly no point in doing so. Copy this quote as well, or shall I?
-Stormwolf
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 19th Mar 2025 05:25 Post subject: |
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it does feel like they have a lot of work if it's really going to be no.1 programmer in the world by the end of the year.. i think it'll evolve a lot, like image AI, but that it will also have annoying quirks for far more than a year, and you have to rely on luck.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2025 18:04 Post subject: |
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They are handwritten and copied using a copy machine, can't see shit.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2025 19:21 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | it does feel like they have a lot of work if it's really going to be no.1 programmer in the world by the end of the year.. i think it'll evolve a lot, like image AI, but that it will also have annoying quirks for far more than a year, and you have to rely on luck. |
What matters is that you can already count on it to shrink teams by a LOT. You need humans to correct it and teach it how to replace them.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2025 19:26 Post subject: |
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@FireMaster
Not really, at least not yet.
Why my company doesn't use it. Not that they/we would use it to replace people. But lessen the workload.
As my company doesn't care if you spend 40 hours a week working or 10 hours, if everything is going to the customer's/client's timeline you are golden. So if I can do my work in 10 hours this week, me doing busy work for 30 more a week produces nothing but 'be busy for the sake of busy'. And salary so 10 hours, 40, (or some weeks 60) is the same pay for them.
And both we, and our R&D tried it to see if it helped, it was mostly frustrating, time-consuming, and tedious to try to get it to do any code over a few hundred lines of basic JS (forget C++ type interfile function call type files having over 200 lines, at all).
Even when working right-ish. Waiting everytime it made a single line change to sloooowly type it alllll out again to give it to you.
Do you know how long it takes on 300+ lines of code when you tell it "Fix line 56 from X to Y" and it has to resend alllll the lines again as text? Sure you can tell it not to resend it all. But you don't trust it enough to know it changed line 56 right, so you need it to send it to make sure it didn't fuck it, or something else up doing it.
We gave up on it.
Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
Sure, but you will quickly find that your extremism makes us unable to agree what a mental patient is. So it is truly no point in doing so. Copy this quote as well, or shall I?
-Stormwolf
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2025 20:47 Post subject: |
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I believe you, I am just sure plenty of tech illiterate boomers already pressed the "fire errybody" button thinking it's already there.
would also depend on the company and its task complexities.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2025 21:10 Post subject: |
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For your depends comment, I think it's a paradox as it stands now. Any company with enough people to want to fire some has coding complexity far far beyond what AI can do now.
Heck if you need more than two people coding on staff, you are already about 100x more complex in coding load than AI can do. I can barely do a single hobby code for a tiny project with it.
Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
Sure, but you will quickly find that your extremism makes us unable to agree what a mental patient is. So it is truly no point in doing so. Copy this quote as well, or shall I?
-Stormwolf
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Mar 2025 15:12 Post subject: |
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and what are all those millions of gpus going to help fix that ? all just investor bullshit ye ?
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