These fucking mongs should be forced to never ever touch a pc for the rest of their life
They should be shown the right way so they can learn more and join PC enthusiasts. We have enough gatekeeping of new people already trying to join.
In my 30+ years of building tons of PC, I made rookie novice mistakes and learned from them early on.
I got a 9800x3d today after randomly seeing it in stock last week. Crazy gains for one gen to the next. It runs nice and cool too, and I don't have any of the issues from the previous gen (7900X)
After Intel's latest offering I think I'll be team red for some time to come
Im still on 7800x3D, can't see any reason to upgrade. My machine for my uses is purely GPU bound.
I even dropped (or side stepped) from 7950 to 7800x3D about a year ago. Since my both me and my friend do VR games a lot, and he was doing better all around in VR with 7800x3D than the my 7950 was
Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
Sure, but you will quickly find that your extremism makes us unable to agree what a mental patient is. So it is truly no point in doing so. Copy this quote as well, or shall I?
-Stormwolf
Care to ellaborate? I'm about to bite the bullet for a 7900 non-X and I'm reading a lot of confusing thoughts about it. Some say it runs stable and reliable even on PBO with a validated CL30 6000Mhz RAM (my target) some mention it's a long-booting fest with CTDs-ahoy. If only 9900 non-X was available...
I've had no issues with either my old 7950 or my 7800x3D.
Mines on 24/7 (other than power outages or windows updates) for the last 2 years. Have not had a single issue. Well, none hardware related anyway.
Not saying @Interinactive is off or incorrect about his issues, just a second voice of someone who has 3 7x00's in his house (mine, my sons, and my VM work 'server' [just a mid tower with 7900x and buttloads of ram and HD space).
Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
Sure, but you will quickly find that your extremism makes us unable to agree what a mental patient is. So it is truly no point in doing so. Copy this quote as well, or shall I?
-Stormwolf
Why not? Not like it hurts to sit here idling 12 hours a day. I've run every PC I've had since...2010~ish 'always on'. Never had an issue from it.
Most that has happened is fans might start making noise sooner. But buying a couple of fans every 2 years is cheap.
If you mean power consumption, my front porch light sucks more wattage than my PC at idle and its on all night.
Not fond of sleep mode, hibernate, or any of them for a PC, laptops sure. But my desktop? You sleep when you die
Care to ellaborate? I'm about to bite the bullet for a 7900 non-X and I'm reading a lot of confusing thoughts about it. Some say it runs stable and reliable even on PBO with a validated CL30 6000Mhz RAM (my target) some mention it's a long-booting fest with CTDs-ahoy. If only 9900 non-X was available...
It was probably the most unreliable CPU I've owned. Long booting, yep. CTDs whenever I tried to change RAM settings, yep. Ran like hot garbage too. But maybe it was just a bad one. I wouldn't have gone AMD again if it weren't my work PC coming with a 7800X3D.
In the past 2 years I've had a 7900X, 7800X3D and a 9800X3D (work vs home vs kids PC). The X3D CPUs have been the best CPUs I've owned, can't recommend them enough. Even when people say they're meant to run hot, they never get hotter than ~40-50 while gaming (AIO cooler), and around ~30 idle.
Even when people say they're meant to run hot, they never get hotter than ~40-50 while gaming (AIO cooler), and around ~30 idle.
Those are some ensuring numbers! I would be using a Phantom Spirit SE air cooler though. Fingers crossed.
SumZero wrote:
I've had no issues with either my old 7950
I've found a 400€ 7950x used once for reviewing. Maybe 'll get this one. I've read that the ECO 105W mode is practically a breeze and it should be used by default by bios manufacturers, "it's that good performace-temps-watts ratio"
Care to ellaborate? I'm about to bite the bullet for a 7900 non-X and I'm reading a lot of confusing thoughts about it. Some say it runs stable and reliable even on PBO with a validated CL30 6000Mhz RAM (my target) some mention it's a long-booting fest with CTDs-ahoy. If only 9900 non-X was available...
It was probably the most unreliable CPU I've owned. Long booting, yep. CTDs whenever I tried to change RAM settings, yep. Ran like hot garbage too. But maybe it was just a bad one. I wouldn't have gone AMD again if it weren't my work PC coming with a 7800X3D.
In the past 2 years I've had a 7900X, 7800X3D and a 9800X3D (work vs home vs kids PC). The X3D CPUs have been the best CPUs I've owned, can't recommend them enough. Even when people say they're meant to run hot, they never get hotter than ~40-50 while gaming (AIO cooler), and around ~30 idle.
You are probably watching wrong sensor information, there is no way 7800X3D for example runs in full gaming load 40-50c.
Sounds normal to me. What I get too roughly while gaming.
This is my temps right now on same-ish setup with 7800x3D and 360 AIO cooler, and a game running:
Load at that temp:
What is it if I slam it ball to the wall with OCCT stress/stability test maxed out it gets around 75-80c. But I don't ever see that other than in stress testing, or realllllly complicated Solidworks simulations:
You are probably watching wrong sensor information, there is no way 7800X3D for example runs in full gaming load 40-50c.
It's not the wrong info, I've been watching it like a hawk coming from the 7900X
I've had it since November and mostly played ~200hrs of Pathfinder and some Tarkov. It's also summer in Australia so the aircon is always on. It's paired with a H170i 420mm AIO Cooler. Maybe if it was Cyberpunk, it would be different, but compared to the 7900X (doing the same thing) it's still much lower.
In the same house, the 7900X on idle is between 60 - 70
Same experience. My 7950 would idle higher, than my 7800X3D under moderate gaming load is now.
It never got concerningly hot mind you. But idled mid-50's to 60s idle and 80's gaming or OCCT.
the 105 watt mode really limits its top end performance when capped out on load.
Isn't this the 65W Eco mode? 105w seems pretty good to me... better than 7900x on productivity (which is my main use) and just 1%~ below on gaming. Better than 7700x in any way. Also, it's just a bios setting to change to get the full TDP
Gaming performance wasn't the issue on 105, some people use their computer for other CPU-intensive things than gaming
I OC'd it to help in those things too, and lower watt modes and manual overclocking don't like each other often.
I got the 7950 because it had more 'oomph' overhead than a 7900
And either way, if it's not overheating why gimp it for no reason?
Running it at 80c or 50c won't make it last longer or shorter, well no longer for any tangible gain of time. If it lasts 7 years or 9, by that point it's worth $40.
Mehh, was thinking about upgrading my 12900k to a 9800X3D but then i realize all these gains i see are 1080p and a tiny bit in 2k. 4k gaming is basically nothing ,even a downgrade in a lot.
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Funny though that it gets presented as some AMD issue. "AMD cpu's dying here and there!" when it seems motherboards are killing them with insane volt spikes
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