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bringiton




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2024 17:03    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
So is it any good? first time ever i havent bought Blizzard game at release, somehow D4 managed to fuck up things so bad and become boring so....

Depends on what you want from it.

Do you want to play it for the campaign? Cannot recommend. Easy as fuck and boring quests.
Do you want to play it just with a quarter of your brain to do something else on the side? Works perfectly fine, rotation (at least for Necro) was super easy, don't really have to think or anything for most fights.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2024 17:17    Post subject:
bringiton wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
So is it any good? first time ever i havent bought Blizzard game at release, somehow D4 managed to fuck up things so bad and become boring so....

Depends on what you want from it.

Do you want to play it for the campaign? Cannot recommend. Easy as fuck and boring quests.
Do you want to play it just with a quarter of your brain to do something else on the side? Works perfectly fine, rotation (at least for Necro) was super easy, don't really have to think or anything for most fights.


And what did you think about the main game?
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bringiton




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2024 20:50    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
bringiton wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
So is it any good? first time ever i havent bought Blizzard game at release, somehow D4 managed to fuck up things so bad and become boring so....

Depends on what you want from it.

Do you want to play it for the campaign? Cannot recommend. Easy as fuck and boring quests.
Do you want to play it just with a quarter of your brain to do something else on the side? Works perfectly fine, rotation (at least for Necro) was super easy, don't really have to think or anything for most fights.


And what did you think about the main game?

I only played the campaign and some of the follow-up missions and because it was so piss easy, there was no tension at all. Build-ups for large boss fights and then the boss is dead in 10 secs.

I am not interested in any grinding or so, so I put it down afterwards.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2024 04:20    Post subject:
Campaign was by far the worst Diablo, just awful writing overall and filled with useless characters that the devs tried to get you to care about by... i'm not sure? There was basically no reason to care about more than 1 or 2 of the characters in the game. And i thought D3 was pretty bad Laughing Aside from the laughable writing-the open world which gets boring versus more hand crafted locales. The worst thing they could have done with Diablo is try to give it some deep lore like they started doing with D3. Nothing did it better than D1 for me, atmosphere and plot wise.

Lot of running around and following NPCs.. lots of empty space in the open world with nothing to do or monsters to fight (this was at release, they may have upped density of monsters, not sure) I enjoyed the very beginning and end. End actually felt like a proper diablo game as the open world was de-emphasized and you were funneled into smaller maps with more monsters and you could tell it was finally accelerating towards a conclusion instead of more pointless macguffin fetch quests.

As far as gameplay, this has been an issue since D2 but has gotten worse with every iteration, but these games get hypnotic to play and you start to fall asleep playing them.. very formulaic-spam generator, build up resource and spend resource spender.. you fall into a trance playing them. Never happened in D1 and only happened in D2 after doing a couple hundred meph runs Surprised
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Oct 2024 15:28    Post subject:
"The best part of the DLC is was the part that tells us about the next one... "

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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jan 2025 20:51    Post subject:
What an load of shit, they really are running out of ideas already.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jan 2025 22:29    Post subject:
I did try to get back into it a month or so ago, but it's just too bland. The whole world is a breeze, and it's not interesting enough to be as large as it is

Too many boring quests as well. As soon as they start talking I started to skip dialogue

Looking forward to trying POEII properly when it leaves EA because Diablo is stagnate as hell now
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jan 2025 23:24    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
I did try to get back into it a month or so ago, but it's just too bland. The whole world is a breeze, and it's not interesting enough to be as large as it is

Too many boring quests as well. As soon as they start talking I started to skip dialogue

Looking forward to trying POEII properly when it leaves EA because Diablo is stagnate as hell now


You should play it right now, its very good already.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jan 2025 23:40    Post subject:
I would, but everyone has told me what a piece of shit the expansion was. Felt like a waste of time. No clue if that's biased hate though. It was quite popular to hate Diablo 4 so you don't really know whose opinion to trust
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jan 2025 00:41    Post subject:
its supertrash. and look se 7 is around the corner and only now they added the last feature d3 had , armory ... its so pathethic Laughing

all the big d4 tubers didnt even cover the se7 shit

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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jan 2025 17:24    Post subject:
poe2 in early access after few very quick patches is so better than d4 it literally hurts me as a lifetime long diablo fan since d1 spawn demo (if anyone even knows what that was). all it lacks is the diablo lore which i love, but oh well - they murdered it in d3.


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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jan 2025 23:07    Post subject:
tried se7 and at lvl 20+ the legendaries start dropping like turds. and my brain goes like, fuck u bitch im not reading any of that shit anymore alt f4

like im legit allergic to legendaries now ... with all that retarded text ,,,, fuck them devs for ruining my arpg appetite completely

even only bothering looking to upgrade only the weapon and destroying everything else proved to much. so much shit dropping . its really is a garbage disposal simulator ...
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jan 2025 20:42    Post subject:
I still don't understand how people can like PoE. I have tried to get into it multiple times; actually, want to but it seems like a slog playing it. The skill tree is overwhelming, drops weren't great, there's little info I found regarding builds (this was a couple of years back so haven't looked recently), and just didn't hold my interest. Prob need to watch a Let's Play on how someone starts it; maybe I'm doing something wrong/picking the wrong class.

I was hoping to hear that PoE 2 will be more engaging but someone here said if you didn't care for PoE then you prob won't like the second. So basically the same old thing, similar to Diablo 3/4. Grim Dawn I loved as did Wolcen (older early access version was great; the release not so much) and Last Epoch.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2025 14:33    Post subject:
I never liked original PoE but I love PoE2, its not the same at all.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2025 19:23    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
I never liked original PoE but I love PoE2, its not the same at all.


So what makes it different? What did you not like about the 1st one?
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2025 20:00    Post subject:
I like the first one better myself.
But the reason I like it, might be why @Breezer_ likes the 2nd better.

1 was more 'get gud' endgame to even do maps. Up until around 1/2 way to cap you could get by with an 'ok' build but really need to theorycraft it in PoE1 to not die 1/4 of the time.

PoE2 seems more casually focused. Now it's not diablo4 "You cannot make a bad character" type casual. But slower paced, more forgiving, and easier to understand

Like skills and supports are simpler. No need to figure out gear and fuss with socket count, and links in them, and shuffle stuff around to get the links and sockets you need.
I both like and don't like that.

PoE1 was the serious sam of ARPG (mass kill mobs in stupid numbers as fast as you can by min-maxing)
PoE2 is like that still a bit, but there is way less skill wall to get to the limited version it offers of that feeling of one button "You see that huge pack of mobs over there? Yes? Now you don't do you?"


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jan 2025 21:19    Post subject:
Thanks SumZero. 2 does seem to be what I am looking for. I think the reasons you listed for 1 re: gear, socket count and links are a big reason why I didn't like it. Nice to see they changed it a bit. I think I will def try it now.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2025 19:04    Post subject:
cool that they gonna charge u 25 euro for a piece of berserk cosmetics? Laughing Laughing 99 eur for a whole berserk set Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2025 19:34    Post subject:
Disgusting representation of Guts. What a shitty thing to do to the deceased Miura. Casca isn't that far off Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2025 20:54    Post subject:
guts as a bearded barbarian is a disgrace indeed ... and having him stands next grifith an insult to the franchise wtf .... Mad anyhooowwwww just oberpriced cosmetics sales trash

this makes the 2017 cgi trash look good lol
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