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 Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2025 18:14 Post subject: |
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That is very impressive.
Id say up to 3-4 years away maybe? It reminds me of tech demos of new graphics tech on GPU launches. It's 'here'. But takes 2-3 years before it's not just a clean room static demo in a small scene made so it runs on specific hardware. And can run for anyone in any actual final game capacity.
I think adding the tech to make it usable in a game, or a movie, is the hill to climb. Moving around is the first step. Making entire worlds that change with different areas, have NPCs, game mechanics, story ect is where the mountain is.
Rendering it is the easier part. Interacting with it as if it is a living world with game mechanics is harder.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2025 19:08 Post subject: |
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yes, maybe in around 3-4 years for a first decent game using it.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2025 20:06 Post subject: |
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what are the hardware requirements to run that in real time though?
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2025 20:33 Post subject: |
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At the rate its growing and optimizing. Maybe what consumers have in 3-4+ years?
Making images took a 40GB vram A100 and 30 seconds per image 5 years ago and they looked like shit and was 512x512. I can pump them out every 2-3 seconds on a 4080 now at 1280x1024 and they look like real life, or whatever style you are going for. (well you CAN do bigger than 1280x1024, can do 4k if you want, but its longer than 3 seconds. More like 10+)
Stormwolf - "Who cares about some racial stuff, certainly not the victims."
- Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Aug 2025 21:48 Post subject: |
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it looks like they've increased stability/consistency to where things dont shift/hallucinate to something else if when you're not looking or if there is movement.
If this can be run well on a 60 class card in the future it may be the mainstream way to do graphics.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Aug 2025 00:17 Post subject: |
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Oh yea, 2D to 3D is a good example.
SO much pixely, low res, gimmicky 3D stuff when it was learning to walk for the home gamer.
Even the 'good' stuff was...crap, for a while looking back.
Anyone remember this? When even this was "That looks too good to be a game"
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But now we are older, higher expectations, and we will all "LAWL, that looks like shit" for Ai's stumble and crawl to transition to eventually something decent.
Stormwolf - "Who cares about some racial stuff, certainly not the victims."
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- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2025 19:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2025 20:56 Post subject: |
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Very meh. Just let me test it instead.
Gemini 3 looks so cool, that it really want to try out.
https://x.com/i/status/1952856940092297716
love how when he looks down it even renders the body.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2025 22:24 Post subject: |
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Just a boring presentation and nothing ground breaking. Open ai is not relevant any more.
Think it has to do with this:
https://www.reuters.com/business/openai-eyes-500-billion-valuation-potential-employee-share-sale-source-says-2025-08-06/
So they intodruce gpt-5 to create hype to increase the value of a stock offering.
They don't go public out of luxery: AI software is worth shit cause they are al so close in performance. And when you have 2 or more leading AI devs the 3th one is just gonna offer it's software as open source to piss off the competition.
They have to cash in now before more people notice it's all worth shit.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2025 22:45 Post subject: |
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it was as predictable as a new nvidia card, we know its going to be better than the last.
all AI companies releases new models from time to time, nothing strange or nothing you need to have conspiracies about. It will absolutely raise stock value, like with anything else when something new is introduced.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2025 01:48 Post subject: |
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I'm with vurt, nothing different than anyone else in the same field big or small.
Open AI has became the 'too mainstream to praise' pinata of AI. Not saying they need praise, but when scorn or skepticism comes out they are the easiest bullseye to hit. usually because it's the only bullseye they know as a household name for it.
Some huggingface team release wan 2.2 months after wan 2.1, and it's seen as advancement, and 'grass roots little guy making steps in AI'. OpenAI does it the faceless conglomerate machine is trying to stay relevant.
I guess some people need a main bad guy in things they have negative opinions on. Especially when its a 'new' thing and involves being a business to afford to do it. And OpenAi is a easy pinata to swing at.
| Quote: | | And when you have 2 or more leading AI devs the 3th one is just gonna offer it's software as open source to piss off the competition. |
That's not how it worked, it was the plan all along. Hence the name from the start OpenAI. You cant just retcon your own villain story, when a story already exist and you just don't know about it. They been around since 2015. Its original mandate went from "non-profit' entity, to "capped‑profit” entity (to gain capital for expenses but limiting investors to do so), to Public Benefit Corporation (PBC).
Before someone takes it as I am defending them. I personally don't use their products, I use a lot of AI none of thiers (better alternatives for my use). Me explaining the history of a thing, doesn't mean I am defending that thing.
[Some people here seem to take correcting them on the history of an event/person/thing, means I must like that event/person/thing. I might or might not, has no bearing on factually wrong things about it.]
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2025 08:02 Post subject: |
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| SumZero wrote: |
| Quote: | | And when you have 2 or more leading AI devs the 3th one is just gonna offer it's software as open source to piss off the competition. |
That's not how it worked, it was the plan all along. Hence the name from the start OpenAI. You cant just retcon your own villain story, when a story already exist and you just don't know about it. They been around since 2015. Its original mandate went from "non-profit' entity, to "capped‑profit” entity (to gain capital for expenses but limiting investors to do so), to Public Benefit Corporation (PBC).
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Nonono. Sam Altman wants money, they are going for profit, it's no secret. And it has to cost 500 billion.
The problem is AI software is impossible to monetize cause all the models are so close you'll end up with open source ones (and those can probably even improve on their own in no time)
So they have to cash in now and fool people before they notice there is no real value here.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2025 09:30 Post subject: |
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https://www.techradar.com/ai-platforms-assistants/chatgpt/chatgpt-is-inside-your-gmail-inbox-and-reviewing-your-calendar-with-your-permission
ChatGPT is inside your Gmail inbox and reviewing your calendar (with your permission)
You can offer ChatGPT access to your Google data to better plan your life
OpenAI's GPT-5 debut included the reveal of a new integration that allows ChatGPT Pro users to link their Gmail, Google Calendar, and Google Contacts directly to the chatbot
ChatGPT can summarize your day, create a schedule, and flag important emails
Though an opt-in feature requiring user confirmation, privacy issues are likely to be raised
The new feature enables ChatGPT users to connect the AI chatbot to their Gmail, Google Contacts, and Google Calendar data. The demo showed ChatGPT responding to a request to see a schedule of the following day by going through the user's calendar and email inbox, then rapidly compiling a complete and complex schedule, including important unread emails to respond to.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2025 12:23 Post subject: |
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| friketje wrote: | | SumZero wrote: |
| Quote: | | And when you have 2 or more leading AI devs the 3th one is just gonna offer it's software as open source to piss off the competition. |
That's not how it worked, it was the plan all along. Hence the name from the start OpenAI. You cant just retcon your own villain story, when a story already exist and you just don't know about it. They been around since 2015. Its original mandate went from "non-profit' entity, to "capped‑profit” entity (to gain capital for expenses but limiting investors to do so), to Public Benefit Corporation (PBC).
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Nonono. Sam Altman wants money, they are going for profit, it's no secret. And it has to cost 500 billion.
The problem is AI software is impossible to monetize cause all the models are so close you'll end up with open source ones (and those can probably even improve on their own in no time)
So they have to cash in now and fool people before they notice there is no real value here. |
for coding AI is huge, Claude has been best for a year, now its chatgpt, so that's what is going to sell. people want to use what's currently the best.
openAI has a open source model too now btw, one that can run locally on a phone.
they are not a profit company so far, they are losing more money than they make, though it is not too unusual, uber, amazon, they also did not make any money at all for a while.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Aug 2025 14:52 Post subject: |
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| friketje wrote: |
The problem is AI software is impossible to monetize cause all the models are so close you'll end up with open source ones (and those can probably even improve on their own in no time)
So they have to cash in now and fool people before they notice there is no real value here. |
There is 1000's of 'types' of models. LLM/diffusion image models are just a tiny tiny slice of the pie.
There is 100's of types just on huggingface, and that's just a slice, of a slice of the public part on one website, of the entire spectrum.
I think the fact you hyper focus on one Ai company, with one AI 'type' leads me to believe what you know about AI is limited to about the same as what my wife does: It exists, it can talk to you, make fake images, and people make funny bigfoot vlog video's with it.
There is Ai used in medical research, medicine research, material science, particle physics, predictive maintenance in factories, warehouse automation, fraud detection, retail inventory forecasting, (and more), and probably just as many that I don't know about.
All of them very very far apart from each on and not 'cause all the models are so close' at all. Even in the same type.
And some of them funded as much (or more in global scope) than your monolith villain OpenAI. AI medicine research dwarfs the single OpenAI company entity, for funding.
Its use in areas far reaching beyond and outside just a chatbot and images/video is too ingrained, useful, and has so much potential and momentum it will continue to exist in some form.
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- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Aug 2025 01:27 Post subject: |
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What's with the.. gay colors  |
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Aug 2025 08:09 Post subject: |
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Yours looks like poo  
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Aug 2025 08:56 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 9th Aug 2025 17:08 Post subject: |
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Haven't tried it yet, been meaning to out of curiosity.
And to be fair, neither of them was a good joke and both equally tame and lame.
A better one would be: My Wi-fi is like my ex - Insecure, flaky, and broadcasting to anyone walking by she is available.
Or
My Wi-fi is like my ex - Weak, slow, and I think my neighbors are using her without me knowing.
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- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Aug 2025 00:07 Post subject: |
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Only thing I use it for, since it's where I started on it, is for keeping data and facts about our pathfinder can vs me having a clunky obsidianportal site (That is so hard to look up things on).
But haven't tried 5 on it yet. hell 3 was good enough for my needs.
So my 'personality' for that project folder is:
Your job is store, organize and remember facts about my Pathfinder tabletop game. You will not search the internet, try to make up world facts, add anything I didn't tell you, or try to add canonical information of towns, NPC, or locations I mention. That is my job. Your job is to simply store anything I give you and be able to answer question or lookups from JUST the data I gave you.
I will feed you journal entries from the players taking notes, my notes, and NPC, town, and such stats and lore.
Do not try to have a conversation with me, or ask me if you was helpful, or suggest anything at all. Simply store and answer inquiries I have.
Do you understand?
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- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Aug 2025 00:18 Post subject: |
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yup, that sounds like a good prompt for that sort of task.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Aug 2025 22:35 Post subject: |
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Imdb added ai summaries of user reviews, you can click on key words and you get a summary of what people say, not too shabby. |
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again, i disagree...
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