Nvidia Shield?
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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 00:12    Post subject: Nvidia Shield?
...still the best to use for streaming e.g mkv files to a TV?

i was hoping i could get away with Plex for the new TV i bought (LG C5), but noooo, performance of the TV is so poor that it runs out of memory.

so another fucking device it is... + more money after spending so much on a TV! Piece of absolute shit OS in the LG OLED's i have to say. The old b7 had no such issues btw, even though probably has less memory and obviously worse CPU (2017)!
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 00:50    Post subject:
Yes. It's still the best. Just get latest Pro Version.

Next alternative is Apple 4K TV if you are into that ecosystem.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 01:07    Post subject:
I direct stream everything up to 50mbit bitrate to a Fire Cube via WLAN. Huge 4k BluRays I put on external drive plug it in the Cube and play back via Kodi. Its also possible to connect a LAN cable but in my case the PC and modem are on a different floor.
Apple 4k has better hardware and processing but its expensive and harder to sideload apps, also it doesn't support DTS formats and has no ports for external drives.
Shield is still great but its rather old. Price wise the Cube is the cheapest, you can regularly get it for 100 bucks. Shield Pro and Apple are both above 150.
Alternatively you can check out the Ugoos AM6B+.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 01:34    Post subject:
Thanks, i'll look into both.

I have Dolby Atomos so it's great if it works with that. Dolby Vision would be good too.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 01:54    Post subject:
I use Apple TV with the Infuse app, which creates a very nice interface for the Plex database I have on a NAS. It supports Atmos and Vision.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 12:04    Post subject:
Apple TV is more recent i guess? Is Nvidia Shield Pro still getting updates or is it like abandoned?

You'd think a modern PC would be able to handle something like this lol, it's not like Nvidia Shield or an Apple TV has even 20% of the performance that my PC does. It feels so idiotic to have to buy something like this.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 12:27    Post subject:
Shield is 2019 but it got the most recent update in November 2025.
Apple TV and Fire Cube are 2022, also still getting updates. New Apple TV is supposed to come out in 2026.
You can theoretically use a mini pc with e.g. Linux Mint for streaming as well but it involves a lot of tinkering.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 12:33    Post subject:
A modern PC should be able to handle everything, just not conveniently enough for me. When I sit on the TV, I don’t want to have to play with a mouse and keyboard. I used to use a tiny keyboard + mouse with a Windows Intel Aton tiny form factor PC. But got the Apple box on a whim and haven’t looked back since. Windows HDR is still terrible, players are even terribler Laughing I don’t think any player on Windows supports Dolby Vision decoding, for example. Meanwhile those tiny boxes with Infuse specifically give me a great experience with whatever content I throw at them.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 12:34    Post subject:
or you could just stop being a boomer and get on Stremio which works on anything that runs android tv
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 13:11    Post subject:
Yeah, I am a boomer. I download only untouched remuxes. Good luck playing those on “anything that runs android tv” or hardware decode more demanding codecs. It might play webdls, sure. But the higher end encodes and remuxes require higher end hardware. That’s why the Shield is still popular. The shitty HDMI dongles that you get for cheap or embedded Android on TVs just don’t cut it yet.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 14:31    Post subject:
I have an LGCX im just using the buildin video player. Im also playing full blu-rays with dolby vision. Only have to convert profile 7 to profile 8.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 14:37    Post subject:
Get a firetv4k max for 20 bucks and sideload kodi. Works just fine for any remux when streaming from LAN source

Even supports dolby/dts HD format passthrough

Pc is not a good option if you want (real) Dolby Vision (FEL)
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 14:54    Post subject: Re: Nvidia Shield?
vurt wrote:

i was hoping i could get away with Plex for the new TV i bought (LG C5), but noooo, performance of the TV is so poor that it runs out of memory.


That's odd, I've been streaming 4K HDR movies with Plex from my PC to my 2019 LG LED TV via WLAN and they look and play great.

Or maybe we're not talking about the same thing.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 15:00    Post subject:
the C5 has a memory leak apparently. But i thought they fixed this with .69
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 15:26    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
Get a firetv4k max for 20 bucks and sideload kodi. Works just fine for any remux when streaming from LAN source

Even supports dolby/dts HD format passthrough

Pc is not a good option if you want (real) Dolby Vision (FEL)


FEL is gone when i convert it too profile 8. Is FEL that important?
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 17:13    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
Get a firetv4k max for 20 bucks and sideload kodi. Works just fine for any remux when streaming from LAN source

https://old.reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/15s60nl/fire_tv_stick_4k_max_hitting_limits_when/

lol

https://dongknows.com/fire-tv-stick-4k-max-2nd-gen-2023-review/

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Some of the biggest movies (in file size) are 90 GB of data with playback speeds that I’ve seen as high as 125 Mbps. And THAT seems slow enough to work with Wi-Fi az output and Wi-Fi ax at the FireTV stick 4K Max with Wi-Fi, but in the real world, I can only play those high-bit-rate ripped movies on the disc player because of stuttering, lengthy pauses, and dropouts I get from the 4K Max.


Just a pity to cheap out on something you buy once evert 5-10 years. Get a more premium option and enjoy.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 17:19    Post subject: Re: Nvidia Shield?
4treyu wrote:
vurt wrote:

i was hoping i could get away with Plex for the new TV i bought (LG C5), but noooo, performance of the TV is so poor that it runs out of memory.


That's odd, I've been streaming 4K HDR movies with Plex from my PC to my 2019 LG LED TV via WLAN and they look and play great.

Or maybe we're not talking about the same thing.


Me too, for my 2017 OLED LG TV... no issues.

Could perhaps be that memory leak, idk. I got an update this morning. Haven't tested if it impacted.

Since 77" i am downloading files which are way larger, so that likely has an impact. Though the Sisu 2 file was "just" 15 GB, that file was a total mess to play... Plex stopped and complained about having to restart to free up memory.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 18:10    Post subject:
jaapie18 wrote:


FEL is gone when i convert it too profile 8. Is FEL that important?


You really don't want to go down the FEL rabbit hole.
TLDR it makes a difference on a handful of BluRays but most do not properly use it anyway. No WebRip uses FEL, only BluRays with Profile 7.
Here are some examples where it makes a difference:



Full FEL support only works on Ugoos AM6B+ with CoreELEC none of the other streaming boxes mentioned here currently support it, maybe in the future though.
There are some other chinese brands like Homatics that supposedly support FEL as well.

Truth is on a good OLED even lack of Dolby Vision or HDR10+ support as a whole does not make a significant difference. It gets converted to HDR10 and the TV does its own dynamic tonemapping anyway, if you let it. Just get a premium TV and enjoy the image.

LeoNatan wrote:
I use Apple TV with the Infuse app, which creates a very nice interface for the Plex database I have on a NAS. It supports Atmos and Vision.


Does the Apple TV support uncompressed Dolby TrueHD Atmos over Infuse yet? Last I read like with DTS:X it downconverts to 5.1/7.1 PCM and loses all Atmos metadata. Only the compressed streaming Atmos supposedly works on the ATV, but my info might be outdated.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 18:52    Post subject:
I think Shield is the only one that does pass through audio correctly. Apple is still limited.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 18:56    Post subject:
The Shield passes through all audio formats. The Cube is also able pass through both DTS:X and TrueHD Atmos to my Q930 soundbar.
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Dec 2025 14:14    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
bbbut reddit said

fix your shit LAN then i guess... YMMV but i get consistent 400mbps via iperf on LAN
and kodi never stutters on high bitrate remux

Shocktrooper wrote:
The Shield passes through all audio formats. The Cube is also able pass through both DTS:X and TrueHD Atmos to my Q930 soundbar.

as does the ftv4kmax

jaapie18 wrote:
FEL is gone when i convert it too profile 8. Is FEL that important?

not really as already mentioned. kodi even does it on the fly if DV compatibility mode is enabled
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