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 Posted: Thu, 30th May 2024 11:21 Post subject: Ozempic |
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| Quote: | | Unsurprisingly, the drug, which comes with both a high out-of-pocket cost and undesirable side effects, is especially popular in Hollywood. “My anti-aging doctor just hands it out to anybody,” Chelsea Handler said in a recent interview, claiming that she initially didn’t even realize she was on it. Inevitably, fascination with the latest weight-loss trend for the rich and famous has led to rampant speculation about which celebrities are taking it. |
https://www.thecut.com/2023/02/celebrities-ozempic-kyle-richards-khloe-kardashian.html
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2024 14:53 Post subject: |
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Well, that's why it's not available to people who actually need it. Novonordisk (danish maker of Ozempic) is selling their stuff to the rich for ridiculous amounts of money.
Keeping their product scarce is what makes it possible for them to charge ridiculous prices for it. They don't have to sell it to countries with healthcare contracts where contracts keep the prices fairly fixed at a fraction of what they're making now. They could quadruple their production to fill most of the demand but that would obviously remove the ridiculous net income rates they currently get.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2024 18:59 Post subject: |
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Ehh, if it helps a lot of people from overeating its a giant net win due to less needing home treatment and hospital queues and beds freed up.
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| Posted: Thu, 30th May 2024 19:23 Post subject: |
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@Stormwolf
It would just change why they end up in the hospital eventually. Not remove it. As if you stop using it as a diet aid, it's not a permanent magic bullet. You just added risks of long term health issues for temp weight loss.
As long term use of it by someone not needing it for blood sugar can cause resistance to natural insulin or dangerously low blood sugar levels. Also a moderate risk of thyroid cancer and pancreatitis. The biggest one reported seems to be gallbladder issues.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 00:04 Post subject: |
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Edit: never mind
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 02:00 Post subject: |
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| |DXWarlock wrote: | @Stormwolf
It would just change why they end up in the hospital eventually. Not remove it. As if you stop using it as a diet aid, it's not a permanent magic bullet. You just added risks of long term health issues for temp weight loss.
As long term use of it by someone not needing it for blood sugar can cause resistance to natural insulin or dangerously low blood sugar levels. Also a moderate risk of thyroid cancer and pancreatitis. The biggest one reported seems to be gallbladder issues. |
If those things were so common that its problematic then it would not be easy to obtain for overweight people. Maybe in the capitalist US, but in EU and Norway.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 02:08 Post subject: |
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it is getting harder to get for those reasons, after its popularity boom:
Belgium and the United Kingdom are two countries that placed bans on Ozempic for weight loss during the fall. Austria, France, Greece, and the Czech Republic have halted exports for Ozempic.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 03:10 Post subject: |
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Afaik that is pressure due to diabetics not getting their medication. Was in the news quite a lot a while ago.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 03:22 Post subject: |
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I thought it was a mix of both, sort of a compounding concern turned into tipping point with both concerns.
I could be wrong. I'm pre-diabetic and even my doc told me he didnt want to offer it as a solution unless necessary, there was better lower side effect options.
“I’d rather have questions I can’t answer than answers I can’t question.“ Richard Feynman.
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| Posted: Fri, 31st May 2024 15:05 Post subject: |
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Yea thats what I got: metaformin 500mg
But only temporary. Well urged to make it only temporary. Told to get out, walk more or something, eat better, all that so I dont need it. My doc usually is the type not to want to give pills if not needed. He'd prefer me not to be a lazy fuck instead..lol
He will frown at you if you go in with the idea "I dont need to do anything, Pills will fix it" for anything that is fixable by being healthier.
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Frant
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2025 23:46 Post subject: |
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New variants of .. GLT1(?) analogues are popping up every now and then. Long-term side effects of these new meds doesn't seem to be all that important since they're cleared by health authorities long before they show up.
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 00:01 Post subject: |
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these short-cuts won't work well anyways. just eat better, start taking responsibility for yourself, you are not a child. how's is this even going to work, eat garbage, fix it with a drug, eat same garbage again, fix with a drug. its going to be your death eventually.
at 54 i am in the best shape of my life, stronger etc. its just laziness and childish behavior to not take care of oneself as a grown person.
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 09:22 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | these short-cuts won't work well anyways. just eat better, start taking responsibility for yourself, you are not a child. how's is this even going to work, eat garbage, fix it with a drug, eat same garbage again, fix with a drug. its going to be your death eventually.
at 54 i am in the best shape of my life, stronger etc. its just laziness and childish behavior to not take care of oneself as a grown person. |
100% this. Very few people actually have a condition, most just don't want to adapt their lifestyle.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 09:28 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | these short-cuts won't work well anyways. just eat better, start taking responsibility for yourself, you are not a child. how's is this even going to work, eat garbage, fix it with a drug, eat same garbage again, fix with a drug. its going to be your death eventually.
at 54 i am in the best shape of my life, stronger etc. its just laziness and childish behavior to not take care of oneself as a grown person. |
 (even though I don't drink alcohol)
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2025 12:01 Post subject: |
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Of course people are lazy and don't want to adapt their lifestyles, but we're reaching a point where we can trick our ancient flawed biology and so shortcuts can actually work. Our bodies are shitty machines that constantly break down, clumsily adapted via evolutionary selection. This goes far beyond weight loss pills, I see aging itself as a disease. Let things take its natural course my ass. Modify away.
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