I didn't play the game for a year or so, and upon returning to it now, it feels rather different. Now, even the Warrior is fun to play, and the entire game has gotten A LOT easier. Not sure if it's a good thing or not, I'm only at Act 2. The item drops are still fucking shite, though. I know they wanted to scale it down compared to the first game, but they've gone overboard. Even bosses and mini bosses drop piss-poor loot now. Or do they want people to just grind and craft endlessly for weeks, only to MAYBE get a good item?
Regardless, the 2 new classes coming with 1.0 seem so much fun that I'm definitely gonna replay this again. I don't care about the endgame, but who knows, maybe that'll change as well.
I myself cannot even do diablo anymore since PoE (other than friends drug me in for a while to play with them).
In my head:
Diablo 4 = pick a static[ish] build, turn 2-3 knobs and kill stuff. But stuck in the walls of what few options a class has.
PoE = Freeform 'whatever the HELL you want' where a part of the gameplay is figuring out exactly what you want to play to kill stuff.
D4 = a premade small 20 piece lego set that takes a few minutes to toss together, where the fun is playing with the final Lego build is the goal.
PoE2 = a whole box of loose Legos where building exactly what you want is part of the fun of the Legos
- Want to be a sword wielding Caster, that has minion army, and AoE DoT spells? Go for it.
- A DPS melee fighter that can also fling comets from the sky, and cause firestorms? Yep, can do.
- A shape changing Tank with walls of fire that can call down lightning and raise dead? Sure why not.
The challenge isn't if you can do it (anyone can have any spells gems and gear if specced for it) the challenge is how to do it with your stat and tree points.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Dont tell some people to. Some people do fine, Ive never followed a build (why have all the Legos in your box, and use the ones someone else tells you to?) and did OK in the acts. Only in endgame maps do I need to start hyper fixating on tweaks and honing the down to its final form.
My first build was literally "I want AoE minion army" and didnt do anything but stack stats for minion functions, and search 'minion' in the tree and pick them. Thats it.
My next was "I want a DoT fire and poison caster with heavy armor and runspeed to kite everything I cannot tank". And picked things for that. No guide or anything. Stack strength for armor, int for spell damage, and find fire and poison nodes in the tree.
Just stay on all the things you wanted and not wander into other 'ohh shiny' skills, unique, or gems.
You can experiment fine. Just pick a 'theme', a synergy of things you want, and you will be fine for the acts.
Especially in PoE2, PoE one was 'learn how to not suck' and first characters was always trash. PoE2 is forgiving. Long as you don't go: I want to be a tanking DPS god, that does crowd control, AoE melee, spells, undead horde, and totem attacks that can summon pets. And just pick a 'direction you want' you should be fine.
Until you get use to it, THEN you try to build that guy above.
just because you CAN have a million options, doesn't mean you should dabble in them all.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
POE 2 (and 1) builds just sucks. It's overcomplicated and relies on synergies that only a community effort can discover. Even if you try to bother with it, it's impossible to come up with the right idea by yourself. And even if you have the right idea, you still have to be lukcy that your build is meta.
And it's not even that skill tree, the skill gems are the real pain. Like how on earth are you supposed to pick the right stuff not using a guide.
Even if you try to bother with it, it's impossible to come up with the right idea by yourself. And even if you have the right idea, you still have to be lukcy that your build is meta.
This is not true. I cleared the endgame with my builds. Some abilities and weapons are more complicated than others, that's for sure. But saying it's impossible it's an over-exaggeration.
blackeyedboy wrote:
Is there some story here that's worth paying attention to?
The story is good and continues in the endgame with a few cool questlines.
@blackeyedboy
I cant help with that part
I havent paid attention to story in games forever.
I hear its not bad.
friketje wrote:
POE 2 (and 1) builds just sucks. It's overcomplicated and relies on synergies that only a community effort can discover. Even if you try to bother with it, it's impossible to come up with the right idea by yourself. And even if you have the right idea, you still have to be lukcy that your build is meta.
I just said, in the post above yours, that is not true. I’ve never followed a build or looked one up over 4-5 different characters. Half my friends do the same thing. We wing it, tweak it, and refine it as we go.
Think of a thing like "I wanna try a self healing melee tank that heals from hitting people" and go aim for gems, skills, and gear that does that thing. Thats it.
You can think the gem system is a pain in the ass. But “how am I supposed to figure this out without a guide?” is the part I enjoy.
Its complex yes. its just overcomplicated to you. Trigonometry, knitting a sweater without a pattern, or fine woodworking with hand tools might be too to some people, doesnt mean it is, or that 'hand tool woodworking, or knitting, sucks'. Just means its not your thing to enjoy..
I suspect you see all the options, and are over complicating it. Its like walking in an icecream shop with 5000 topping and saying its too complicated to order. When what you want is simple: Vanilla with peanuts and sprinkles. Stop looking at the wall of toppings, and simply tell them the ones you want.
friketje wrote:
And it's not even that skill tree, the skill gems are the real pain. Like how on earth are you supposed to pick the right stuff not using a guide.
DX build guide (for whatever you want to make)
Stick to 1-2 damage gem rotation setups (three if feeling frisky)
A few support toggles or finishers in the others. some toggle auras in the others..DO NOT try to go: I got 10 gem rows, I want 10 attacks! you will suck like a Swiss army knife, lots of options, all of them suck.
Keep it simple. Just because you CAN setup gems for "All of them are attack key gem" doesnt mean its smart.
ALL my builds are dead simple. left/right click for entire chain. I don't like hitting a lot of keys to fight. So leftclick starter ''primer" thing, left click "damage goes Brrrrr" key. You don't NEED more keys than that unless you want them.
It's as easy as: Go kill stuff, think of some other gem combo to try. see damage/feel/vibe of it sucks..do not use those together. if it does feel good and better, stick with it until you unlock new gems and gem slots, read tooltips, add appropriate ones.
They have tooltips on the gems, and when socketed can see if they make damage/DPS/rate of fire, whatever better or worse instantly in the numbers. It spells it out for you.
Stick to a theme.
You want to do fire AoE damage? use...hold on to your hat. A fire spell gem with AoE, duration, and area size supports.
Then search (fire) in the tree, and get the nodes that increase fire stuff.
Then search AH for items with '+ fire damage'.
Want to get a tiny bit fancier? to do AoE fire damage that shatters frozen enemies from your ice storm?
Simple: A fire spell gem with AoE, proc support for frozen enemies, and added cold damage (to help freeze ones not frozen yet). Combined with the ice storm gem with AoE duration, and area size supports.
Maybe cascade support to cast it twice at 1/2 damage? Since ice isn't doing the damage, its freezing them TO do damage...so 2 casts side by side, is more area to freeze them.
Throw in a unique made specifically for that thing (like chilled enemies count as frozen) and you are shattering everything on screen.
Its "what do I want" mixed with "what does the tooltip say it does?"
Thats all you have to do. Pick a thing you want to combine as your 'playstyle' find gear, gems, and tooltips..that say they do/help that thing.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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