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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Nov 2026 18:32 Post subject: |
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Huang’s downfall has nothing to do with “gaermz” not being able to buy GPUs cheaper. Unless MSS is run by a fat hairy retard who wants 6090 DTX to release cheap 
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Nov 2026 19:51 Post subject: |
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Thank you for your input.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Nov 2026 21:06 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | You didnt qualify that the leaker didnt get in trouble. You asked for examples where the press independently released info that could cause an international issue.
Also, for example in some of those it was a month or more before leaker got negative consequences. So we cannot compare as equal or not, as it's not been long enough to tell if these people will (and then that only covers your new second addition stipulation.)
Also 'In almost all cases'. So...how does it compare to the ones not in that almost? You want a new 3rd qualifier to sift them out too?
“Almost all” also needs a count. Snowden and Teixeira are examples of sources who faced charges. In the Midway case, the DOJ held a grand jury, which declined to indict the reporter. You need to go case by case to support “almost all.”
You said they’d charge the WSJ if the story wasn’t planned. Now you’re talking about what happened to the leakers. Those are two different people/entities. And there is no evidence that media leaks always lead to being charged. A non-trivial percentage was leaked by media, and no charges/indictment followed through.
So it cannot be used as a metric to speculate 'who and why' wanted it published.
Soon your question will be: Show me example of media leaks, where the paper did not get charged, the leaker didnt not face indictment, and it was a Monday with a date that ends in an odd month number and the leaker had brown hair.
Put down the goalpost, you have carried them far enough.
Your trying to argue a point about newspapers, with a guy that worked in paper publishing for nearly all major newspapers, for nearly 1/2 his life...And was direct sole production support contact for WSJ (the one in question) for 12 of those 19 years. |
Might have been wrong here or there doesnt mean that my initial assumption is definately wrong.
It's your opinion vs mine.
With all the shit u.s. pulled/pulls it's not urnealistic anyhow.
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But its purely speculation and assumption based on zero evidence is the issue I have with it.
Nothing in any of the reports, documents, statements, or findings even remotely imply the US is trying to puppet replace him.
my issue isn't that you speculated. we all do it. its you speculate then extrapolated it out to convey frustration and distaste that the US is (not could, but is) doing that thing. You are expressing felt disgust at a thing you made up in your head.
| Quote: | | With all the shit u.s. pulled/pulls it's not urnealistic anyhow. |
This is such a nothing statement. You could replace the country with any one of the major powers, and the accusation with any accusation. It works as a "begs the question/circular reasoning" fallacy (maybe hasty generalization? i get them mixed up.). It doesnt reinforce any claims.
You are proudly defending the definition of cognitive bias conclusions. Now, soon as they give any evidence the US is, I will join you on your side in the "WTF US?!" debate.
I am not fond of my country (The US) either. But I am not going around just tossing out wild speculations based on nothing other than my feel-feels about the country, as a "defend yourself, guilty until prove yourself innocent"
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Nov 2026 01:41 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | But its purely speculation and assumption based on zero evidence is the issue I have with it.
Nothing in any of the reports, documents, statements, or findings even remotely imply the US is trying to puppet replace him.
my issue isn't that you speculated. we all do it. its you speculate then extrapolated it out to convey frustration and distaste that the US is (not could, but is) doing that thing. You are expressing felt disgust at a thing you made up in your head.
| Quote: | | With all the shit u.s. pulled/pulls it's not urnealistic anyhow. |
This is such a nothing statement. You could replace the country with any one of the major powers, and the accusation with any accusation. It works as a "begs the question/circular reasoning" fallacy (maybe hasty generalization? i get them mixed up.). It doesnt reinforce any claims.
You are proudly defending the definition of cognitive bias conclusions. Now, soon as they give any evidence the US is, I will join you on your side in the "WTF US?!" debate.
I am not fond of my country (The US) either. But I am not going around just tossing out wild speculations based on nothing other than my feel-feels about the country, as a "defend yourself, guilty until prove yourself innocent" |
Listen dude you can see it as you want.
For me personally:
Wsj throwing shit out there having a scoop by some u.s. intelligence officials.
Mind you this is not a whistleblow like the cases you mentioned:
"A whistleblower is a current or former employee, contractor, or insider who exposes illegal, immoral, unsafe, fraudulent, or unethical activities happening within a public or private organization"
So yeah no one suddenly grew a conscience and suddenly felt the big urge to confess something like the u.s. army torturing ppl but some "unconfirmed rumour".
So basically u.s. intelligence official/s leaking info and putting their job and even punishment/repercussion on the line for an uncertain assumption of someone being a spy or not.
If an u.s. intelligence official leaks info willy nilly just for the fun of itthe u.s. got bigger issues i guess.
Ofc coincidentally the DOJ/U.s. goverment can't put out a statement/be sure that she is a spy or not until everything is over and jensen has retired.
So let me get this straight THE u.s. goverment who monitors every country and their mom wasn't able to determine if that woman was a spy or not for over 2.5 years (if we are to belive news outlets they were mingling back then already/meeting privately without spouses).
Ofc we are talking about not just the ceo of any company but NVIDIA the biggest/most high tech a.i. chip manufacturer that has restrictions in place by the u.s. goverment not to mention that the a.i."race" is seen as the most crucial after arms/economy.
Sure buddy..
Ofc something like this isn't easy to proof but for me it doesn't make sense.
You either accept that u.s. intelligence is trash (which i dont believe) or that it was deliberate.
You probably think that the release of the epstein files were a catastrophe and that they misshandled and leaked everything they had aswell i assume. ( btw 0 arrests or prosecutions of high profile ppl by files that were seen as important by trump and other political/gov workers)
p.s.: why would trump endorse anyone for a ceo position of a non gov company anyhow?
Tim Cook out of all ppl. Him getting the job is seen as very unlikely. I guess we'll see what happens.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Nov 2026 02:01 Post subject: |
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I don't see it as anything. Because we have no info to see it a way.
Thats my point,
we literally have nothing to go on, and you have a whole story, plot, actors, and motivations, secret plans, and timeline penned out. Based on two things: Your desire for it to be true, and random ass pulling.
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You either accept that u.s. intelligence is trash (which i don't believe) or that it was deliberate |
They can be trash in this specific situation or not trash, AND it be deliberate or not. We...have...no...info yet to call it.
I am not saying I know one way or the other. I am not defending the claims made. BECAUSE THERE IS NONE.
You take it as me defending the thing you are attacking. I am not. I am questioning your claims, not defending theirs.
I don't give a fuck either way, but until we have evidence of anything we cant call the outcome, either of which, I have no stake to care about. Just saying its too early to call.
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You probably think that the release of the epstein files were a catastrophe and that they misshandled and leaked everything they had aswell i assume. ( btw 0 arrests or prosecutions of high profile ppl by files that were seen as important by trump and other political/gov workers)
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There you go doing hasty generations again as proof of a claim.
Stay on topic. Because my thoughts on a totally unrelated thing do not confirm or condemn anyone opinion on this (does not validate mine less, or validate yours more).
I am so glad, really and truly, and with no sarcasm. Some of you are not called for jury duty. You would SUCK at no being biased and influnced.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Nov 2026 02:07 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | I don't see it as anything. Because we have no info.
Thats my point, we literally have nothing to go on, and you have a whole story, plot, actors, and motivations penned out.
| Quote: | You either accept that u.s. intelligence is trash (which i don't believe) or that it was deliberate
They can be trash, AND it be deliberate or not. Well...have...no...info.
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You probably think that the release of the epstein files were a catastrophe and that they misshandled and leaked everything they had aswell i assume. ( btw 0 arrests or prosecutions of high profile ppl by files that were seen as important by trump and other political/gov workers)
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Stay on topic. Because my thoughts on a totally unrelated thing do not confirm or condemn anyone opinion on this. There you go doing hasty generations again as proof of a claim. |
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I can't proof this and that ofc. But newsoutlets/newspapers claiming a chinese woman being a spy and running with it with no clear evidence is ofc not as grave as me jumping to conclusions through my reasoning.
| Quote: | | The New York Times. On November 7, 2026, the paper ran the headline, "China's Top Spy Agency Recruited Woman Who Targeted Jensen Huang". A follow-up piece on November 10 titled "The Woman in the Middle of Nvidia's Spy Scandal" stated flatly that U.S. officials "had concluded she was a Chinese intelligence asset". |
As i said doesnt add up to me. Guess we agree to disagree.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Nov 2026 02:14 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | But newsoutlets/newspapers claiming a chinese woman being a spy and running with it with no clear evidence is ofc not as grave as me jumping to conclusions through my reasoning. |
If WSJ have no evidence. Then yea...you and WSJ are BOTH are in the wrong for hasty assumptions of wishing desired results to be true.
| Quote: | | I can't proof this and that |
Then why are you claiming it? You are not speculating it, you are stating it and defending that is 'probably is' as a defendable claim. Even if not certain 'probably' means more than 50/50 and we have NOTHING to tilt that scale yet. its a coin toss.
Its not you saying: I suspect on my hunches they wanted to puppet plant, would be a boon for them, a underhanded one but a boon.
Its: They want to puppet plant, fucking US man, go figure. Damn that pisses me off. I cannot stand they are doing that. Fuck them man.
The first I am ok with. The second one is convincing yourself of a thing, feeling a way about it, before it even shown in anyway to be true.
I guess my question is why so much emotional conviction, that a thing is (probably) true, that has no merit yet? Can you not wait until its proven before getting pissed? Ain't got that type of time to be rational I guess? Get ahead of everyone else about outrage, hedge your bets and hope it pays off to be true?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Nov 2026 03:18 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Nov 2026 03:29 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | I don't see it as anything. Because we have no info to see it a way.
Thats my point,
we literally have nothing to go on, and you have a whole story, plot, actors, and motivations, secret plans, and timeline penned out. Based on two things: Your desire for it to be true, and random ass pulling.
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You either accept that u.s. intelligence is trash (which i don't believe) or that it was deliberate |
They can be trash in this specific situation or not trash, AND it be deliberate or not. We...have...no...info yet to call it.
I am not saying I know one way or the other. I am not defending the claims made. BECAUSE THERE IS NONE.
You take it as me defending the thing you are attacking. I am not. I am questioning your claims, not defending theirs.
I don't give a fuck either way, but until we have evidence of anything we cant call the outcome, either of which, I have no stake to care about. Just saying its too early to call.
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You probably think that the release of the epstein files were a catastrophe and that they misshandled and leaked everything they had aswell i assume. ( btw 0 arrests or prosecutions of high profile ppl by files that were seen as important by trump and other political/gov workers)
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There you go doing hasty generations again as proof of a claim.
Stay on topic. Because my thoughts on a totally unrelated thing do not confirm or condemn anyone opinion on this (does not validate mine less, or validate yours more).
I am so glad, really and truly, and with no sarcasm. Some of you are not called for jury duty. You would SUCK at no being biased and influnced. |
Him claiming this or that sure puts the planet in turmoil. Learn to just.. chill
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Nov 2026 03:46 Post subject: |
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But the collective habit of people as a whole claiming this or that, sure puts the planet in turmoil.
Its just one guy, on a dying forum: Yea..but as the saying goes, no one snowflake feels responsible for the avalanche.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Nov 2026 10:42 Post subject: |
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https://wccftech.com/jensen-huang-financed-ai-startups-absorb-excess-silicon/
| Quote: | Instead Of Lowering GPU Prices, Former NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang Reportedly Financed AI Startups To Absorb Excess Silicon, Shattering The Shortage Perception
Now that NVIDIA’s Jensen Huang is no longer the company CEO, we have some truth behind the exponential rise of semiconductor and memory prices. According to the latest findings, it appears that we were led to believe that there was an organic supply shortage, but in reality, we learn that Jensen was actually leveraging NVIDIA’s own balance sheet to finance AI startups and datacenter buildouts so they could absorb the company’s over-ordered semiconductor shipments from TSMC.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Nov 2026 13:40 Post subject: |
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| lametta wrote: | LOL im the part where you draw the line?
So a newsoutlet that puts wrong news out there putting people's life at risk or ruining it isn't your main concern?
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It's not you that the line is drawn at. Its the action, not the person doing it. I draw the line at that thing, not that person.
As you both are doing the same thing. Can I not be critical of two things, that are doing the same thing? I even said if they do not have information to back it up, they are also in the wrong.
The point I keep trying to make to you is:
News outlet speculates a thing without evident proof and claim it is true, and you go of on them saying that should not be done.
Then you speculate without proof and claim it is true, and defend doing so.
Can you not see where I am coming from?
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Nov 2026 04:37 Post subject: |
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Maybe, just maybe, running around the world for the last few years telling everyone they need to buy your hardware to make billions finally blew up in his face. Now there are billions of dollars in assets sitting in warehouses doing jack shit, likely never to be used. Tell me about another industry where ONE person controlled the narrative, supply, and rollout plan like he has been doing with this bullshit.
Could this be the biggest trust me bro in human history?
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Nov 2026 04:43 Post subject: |
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| Boiler wrote: | | Tell me about another industry where ONE person controlled the narrative, supply, and rollout plan like he has been doing with this bullshit. |
Henry Ford
Steve Jobs
Thomas Edison
Thomas Watson Jr (IBM)
Bill Gates (early 90's)
John D. Rockefeller
Huang ain't got shit on any of them for entire single person industry dominance and closed self control over the entire supply chain, who can get in on that chain, and thumb on the industry as a whole. Compared to Ford and Rockefeller, Huang cant hold a candle to thier single handed domination of an entire industry, warehouse/distribution saturation(manipulation), and self control of prices because of thier strangle hold on the consumers and other competitors.
He's not even in the top 10 of Conniving industry bros in human history.
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| Quote: | Telegram founder Pavel Durov:
"Jensen made a rookie mistake: he had a board of directors. In 2014, the board fired me for saying no to spies.
In 2026, Jensen was fired by the board for saying yes to a spy (https://lnkd.in/eAvS3cVB)
So the board of directors gets you into trouble in both cases.
My advice to company founders: don't create a board of directors. Be your own board of directors." |
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rubendominguezibar_telegram-founder-pavel-durov-jensen-made-activity-7527309400370229248-TH9W
Russians don't like accountability and playing by the rules, it seems.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Nov 2026 11:13 Post subject: |
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Durov is a troll anyway. Just look at his Twatter club. He is trying to be a Temu Musk.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Nov 2026 21:17 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | | Boiler wrote: | | Tell me about another industry where ONE person controlled the narrative, supply, and rollout plan like he has been doing with this bullshit. |
Henry Ford
Steve Jobs
Thomas Edison
Thomas Watson Jr (IBM)
Bill Gates (early 90's)
John D. Rockefeller
Huang ain't got shit on any of them for entire single person industry dominance and closed self control over the entire supply chain, who can get in on that chain, and thumb on the industry as a whole. Compared to Ford and Rockefeller, Huang cant hold a candle to thier single handed domination of an entire industry, warehouse/distribution saturation(manipulation), and self control of prices because of thier strangle hold on the consumers and other competitors.
He's not even in the top 10 of Conniving industry bros in human history. |
It took decades for those companies to grow organically as demand increased. That isn't happening now. The narrative is essentially, buy my stuff and trust me bro, you'll be generating billions in profits. AI infrastructure spending is growing faster than the proven revenue streams that might justify it. Thats not how industries work, they grow with demand not based on promises of what might be coming.
The AI sector had a rocket shoved up its ass and ballooned in just a few years because a handful of people said it would. None of the robber barons went around shaking down companies and governments, telling them that if they didn't get in now, they'd fall behind. The monopoly comparisons with U.S. Steel, Standard Oil, and Chase have merit, but those companies also bought out their competition. Nvidia's "competition" seems content eating scraps and shows little drive to seriously challenge them.
The robber barons weren't telling people to get onboard or fall behind, and nobody was buying thousands of dollars' worth of oil, steel, or cars only to let them sit in warehouses, depreciate, and become worthless without ever being used. Were other tactics used? Absolutely. J.P. Morgan's lending practices were unfavorable at best, and if you wanted to move anything by rail, Carnegie effectively controlled access, while Rockefeller dominated oil.
IMO, one of the biggest issues coming is the hardware that will be obsolete in a few years, if not sooner, and may never generate a return on investment. I'm sure Google, Microsoft, and Musk can absorb those losses, but can the rest of the companies that went on a buying spree based on promises of X00% returns handle it? I would argue that the closest comparison to what's happening now is the telecom boom of the late 1990s.
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Nov 2026 21:33 Post subject: |
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| Boiler wrote: | | It took decades for those companies to grow organically as demand increased. That isn't happening now. |
Nvidia was founded in 1993...And you are confusing end personal consumer demand, with global demand.
The demand has existed. Be it warranted or not is a different story. But Nvidia didnt push the demand (or at least isn't the main reason). AI companies wanting parts FROM NVidia did. They hyped each other. Nvidia just made parts and went "Don't worry, we got more of what you all are scrambling for"
| Quote: | | The narrative is essentially, buy my stuff and trust me bro, you'll be generating billions in profits. AI infrastructure spending is growing faster than the proven revenue streams that might justify it. Thats not how industries work, they grow with demand not based on promises of what might be coming |
That is exactly how a some of new industries, tech, and advancements we have (or don't have because it fizzled out) happened:
- The first iPhone: Jobs pushed for full scale production of it, with no indication of sales of the volume predicted or its success over the bulldog that Blackberry current was. It was his "All or nothing" and they openly admit it: If it failed, Apple was fucked. They put everything into it with with only a hope and luck that it paid off for them and stockholders/investors.
Other examples:
- Netflix: invested in DVD inventory and distribution centers so it could deliver discs quickly, before anyone got mailed the first DVD. It was also "All or nothing' with investors promised thick returns.
- Internet ISP providers and server data centers: The Dot com bubble...
- British railways (1850s): Promoters raised money for new lines based on the traffic they expected once the tracks were laid.
- EV batteries: billions dumped into battery factories before EVs was a main stream thing. Was a purely speculation investment.
- Satellite phones: Iridium put a global satellite network into orbit before it knew how many people would pay for worldwide mobile calling.
- Cell phones: the infrastructure needed to sell any to start with.
- Cable TV: the investment into stations, syndication rights and contracts, and buckets of money dumped into it to have a thing to offer before the first customer paid for it.
- North American shale, oil, and gas: Producers spent heavily on drilling, betting future production would justify the upfront costs.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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