Which XP SP2 copy to use? Etho, Mage, ftISO?
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Ace128




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 11:35    Post subject:
How about what ETH0 says then?

"Well you all sure have seen FTFiSO's release
of Windows XP Professional Corporate with SP2
integrated. But they have missed one thing
that Microsoft have put in the new sp2.
If you wanna use windows update the corp. key
must be a registred key at Microsoft. And there
aint many of thoes out on the net.
Our release aint corporate and we have included
a program that makes you skip activation.
For more info read the install notes. "

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siegfried




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 13:02    Post subject:
Ace128 wrote:
How about what ETH0 says then?

"Well you all sure have seen FTFiSO's release
of Windows XP Professional Corporate with SP2
integrated. But they have missed one thing
that Microsoft have put in the new sp2.
If you wanna use windows update the corp. key
must be a registred key at Microsoft. And there
aint many of thoes out on the net.
Our release aint corporate and we have included
a program that makes you skip activation.
For more info read the install notes. "

?


Utter BS
Even more BS considering it is now well known that SP2 doesn't check for valid PID 640 keys anymore as MS has reversed their policy on this matter right before the final build

Seems these guys didn't even test their shit....
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siegfried




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 13:05    Post subject:
borkis wrote:
Sorry for my fuck up....

There are 6771 files in the I386 folder on the MAGE!!! release (527MB)

There are 6797 files in the I386 folder on FTFiso!!! release (539MB) and it has a folder named DOTNETFX that isn’t present in MAGE's release (in the root of the disc). But the SUPPORT and VALUEADD is a couple of megs bigger on MAGE's release....


I checked this
it seems Mage did a SP2 slipstream from a Devilsown CD (SP0) while FTFiSO did it from an official XP+SP1a corporate CD, hence the presence of the dotnetfx folder and file number and size differences (I have one of these originals so I'm pretty sure of what I'm saying)
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borkis




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 14:01    Post subject:
There are 6771 files in the I386 folder on the ETH0 release (527MB). Precisely the same size as MAGE's release.
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johny69




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 15:00    Post subject:
Anyone heard of this release??
Windows.XP.Professional.SP2.Intergrated.Xtras.repack-DBiso

Has anyone used it??? Any comments???
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ronnie_t




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 17:34    Post subject:
Microsoft have announced that they initially allow illegal PID's. They have only announced they will look for different methods to attach piracy.

I guess one way you can test if your key is a *real* "Corporate" key is to install the Windows Corporate-Retail version with one of FTF-ISO's keys and then install RC2 and visit windowsupdate. If you are not blocked then the Key is "real".
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LeaF-MaN




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 17:39    Post subject:
siegfried wrote:
borkis wrote:
Sorry for my fuck up....

There are 6771 files in the I386 folder on the MAGE!!! release (527MB)

There are 6797 files in the I386 folder on FTFiso!!! release (539MB) and it has a folder named DOTNETFX that isn’t present in MAGE's release (in the root of the disc). But the SUPPORT and VALUEADD is a couple of megs bigger on MAGE's release....


I checked this
it seems Mage did a SP2 slipstream from a Devilsown CD (SP0) while FTFiSO did it from an official XP+SP1a corporate CD, hence the presence of the dotnetfx folder and file number and size differences (I have one of these originals so I'm pretty sure of what I'm saying)


That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for clearing that up. If this is the case, I would go for the FTFiSO release. I never liked the Devils0wn version Razz. Also, would their be any benefits/problems with using the the ftfiso because SP2 was slipstreamed with an already slipstreamed SP1a?
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pha5e




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 18:04    Post subject:
im getting the ftf release atm, ive heard you can just update and use the cd-key on the .nfo
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johto




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 19:32    Post subject:
pha5e wrote:
im getting the ftf release atm, ive heard you can just update and use the cd-key on the .nfo


Its better to grab one of those legit Windows XP (SP2) keygens and generate your own valid key than use one of those inside nfo. If microsoft is bannin any keys, i would bet those are the first one.

I tested TFTiSO release and used one of the generated keys...windows update worked fine !
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siegfried




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Aug 2004 20:19    Post subject:
LeaF-MaN wrote:

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for clearing that up. If this is the case, I would go for the FTFiSO release. I never liked the Devils0wn version Razz. Also, would their be any benefits/problems with using the the ftfiso because SP2 was slipstreamed with an already slipstreamed SP1a?


hmm, I don't think there'd be any issues, regarding benefits.. well you won't have to DL the DotnetFX package lol
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4 Door ITR




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Aug 2004 04:32    Post subject:
To verify what's what, I used a MSDN corp iso and intergrated SP2 into. It came out to be the same filesize as the MaGE internal. I did the same again, but I used SP1 first and then SP2, but the filesize didn't match the FTFiSO. The FTFiSO has the DOTNETFX directory and READMESP.HTM. Where these came from I'm not sure. It looks as if a Media Center or Tablet PC disc was used to create this image.

Why does the splash screen give you the option to install the .NET Framework 1.0 when its not even on the corp disc at all, even after adding SP2?
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LeaF-MaN




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Aug 2004 06:00    Post subject:
4 Door ITR wrote:
To verify what's what, I used a MSDN corp iso and intergrated SP2 into. It came out to be the same filesize as the MaGE internal. I did the same again, but I used SP1 first and then SP2, but the filesize didn't match the FTFiSO. The FTFiSO has the DOTNETFX directory and READMESP.HTM. Where these came from I'm not sure. It looks as if a Media Center or Tablet PC disc was used to create this image.

Why does the splash screen give you the option to install the .NET Framework 1.0 when its not even on the corp disc at all, even after adding SP2?


You slipstreamed SP1 and then SP2. According to the post before, FTFiso did SP1a and then SP2. Not sure is the difference between SP1a and SP1 had anything to do with your different size Confused .
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4 Door ITR




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Aug 2004 10:44    Post subject:
I meant to say SP1a. Sorry Razz
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Gasuinas




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Aug 2004 13:44    Post subject:
Hello people... i need some help... i have downloaded the ftfiso version and then i burn it into a cd but when i restart my system and i try to boot from cd appears the message "no bootable cd into the drive"...
What i have to do to make this bootable...
I just extract the files with isobuster and burn with nero express... please help me...
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methodmansi




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Aug 2004 18:15    Post subject:
You shouldn't have extracted using isobuster... what you should have done is burn the image as it was.... all you have to do if you're using Nero is to go load image file and then make the little box at the bottom select for all files. Then just load up the bin file and press burn.... I just use cdrwin, myself.
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utal




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Aug 2004 19:42    Post subject:
till now Mage is good for me. i've made a fresh install and a windows update with no prob.
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ILL_BILL_




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Aug 2004 22:20    Post subject:
utal wrote:
till now Mage is good for me. i've made a fresh install and a windows update with no prob.

I just did a fresh install of the ftfiso release, but is it normal there aren't any updates to download from windows update?
Because I saw several people posting, they had no probs updating... Confused
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ssrat




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Aug 2004 00:57    Post subject:
Just to throw my 2c in, The only one I could get complete right now is the ETH0 release.
Installed fine (the last key worked), then I ran the "remover" on the Cd and rebooted...start/crash/start/crash/start/crash
Reinstalled again WITHOUT the "remover" patch and jumped ahead 2months and it is not bitching, ran update, no problem.
HOWEVER I did use one of the keys from a Corperate relase I am trying to get so not sure if that changed anything
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l0newolf




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Aug 2004 15:12    Post subject:
mage works fine here also..
used the included keygen to generate a key for it & no problems with winupdate.
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MasterOr




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004 23:01    Post subject:
So, what's gonna be FTFISO or MAGE ??
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generalnewbie




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004 21:18    Post subject: personally
I downloaded the FTFISO version reguardless of the etho proper...
seemed to have some bogus info in the nfo.. plus i didnt want some
activation crack on my pc......

i formated perfectly fine withthe ftfiso version and used my other pc to generate a corp key from the keygen.... FTFiso took my CORP key... perfectly fine but i did however did try to use a windows xp Professional Key that i generated as well and it did not accept that key....(someone else care to try this i dont think a pro key will work...) anyway this lead me to to not bother with a home key.....and besides i wanted a corp key so i dont have to activate windows. This is why i still have my retail copy on the desk. After the minor driver problem... from some of my equipment ( it was a sata raid controller that wasnt recongized) it loaded perfectly fine... noticed the new boot screen.. no biggie and then i went to windows update and ran the new update perfectly fine.

I havent Tried MAGE but i can assure you that i have use MAGE in the past and they do have nuked software.

im happy with the FTFISO

but then again this was just released..and i would like to know the difference..... in a regular sp2 and this 2004-08-22 Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 *With Advanced Security Technologies* (c) Microsoft YUM
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4 Door ITR




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004 23:18    Post subject:
generalnewbie wrote:

but then again this was just released..and i would like to know the difference..... in a regular sp2 and this 2004-08-22 Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 *With Advanced Security Technologies* (c) Microsoft YUM


None. This is just the SP2 cd you can download or order from MS.

More info here.
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sp2_cdrom.asp
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Sepiroth




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004 23:36    Post subject:
i think i will install my corp. windows xp sp1a integrated and this sp2 cd of YUM on it hope works better then these ftfiso eth0 and all other ***n' releases pfff Sad
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Morph2049




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Aug 2004 07:22    Post subject: Another Release!!!!!
Here's another release today: Microsoft.Windows.XP.Corporate.Edition.SP2.Integrated.PROPER-c2
No Serial provided in the nfo. I'm not even gonna bother with it.
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generalnewbie




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Aug 2004 08:54    Post subject: i just finished
i just finished making a bootable corp CD with all the modified info so that i dont need to type in a cd key or set my time zone.. anymore!!!! that should make me happy! made it from the MAGE release.... since i have a copy of... the FTFISO...

info as to how to achieve this...
Open \Support\Tools\Deploy.cab on the cd and run setupmgr.exe. Have it do a Full Unattended installation if you don't want to do anything during setup and put your key in there plus all the other info you want.

Once you're done, rename the created unattend.txt to winnt.sif and drop it into the I386 folder of the XP cd when you do the slipstreaming. Oh, one thing about the unattend.txt/winnt.sif, it sets AutoPartition=1, meaning it will automatically choose which partition and format it will install on, so change it to = 0 if you want to do that.
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ty1er




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Aug 2004 00:06    Post subject:
i just installed the Mage release. The install was smooth as it should be. Not problems...

Quick question, is there any beinfit to use the FTFiso release instead of the Mages'?

Im assuming that the Mage reiease is a final version of SP2 integrated. right?
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FurionStormrage




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004 00:09    Post subject:
I have downloaded that Microsoft.Windows.XP.Professional.Corporate.incl.SP2-FTFiSO one and i got a VERY weird message when trying to boot from the CD I burned it on. My Trend Micro on-board virus protection said a virus was catched?! It was right after the screen where I told my computer to boot from CD by pressing a key. So when loading from the CD the virus was caught... I assume this is not normal and I have got some corrupted version or something. Can someone post the exact size of the iso of the ftfiso version that is working so I can compare it to the iso I got?

Thanks!
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Hitokiri




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004 08:57    Post subject:
Your Trend Micro on-board virus protection is probably a bit too sensitive. I suspect it just detected that winxp sp2 uses the boot-up part of your hard drive to boot the disc and thought some malicious program was trying to screw your drive.
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FurionStormrage




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004 16:13    Post subject:
I thought of that too, but why have I never had this before when installing normal Windows XP or Windows XP incl SP1? I really think its kinda weird. I'm gonna try and boot from another version of the xp incl sp2, probably the mage release, to see if I get the same message. If I do get the virus warning again, it will probably be oversensitivity of some sort.
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dirtydog




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Aug 2004 08:36    Post subject:
This is probably a really stupid question but I'm curious so I gotta ask Laughing

How come everyone doesn't just get SP2 off Microsoft and update their existing XP install, or use their existing XP Corp disc and slipstream with that? That's what I did, did I do wrong Shocked
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