Been spying my girlfriend..
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proddan




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 10:15    Post subject:
Ahh I love the smell of this kind of threads in the morning : D

I am with cartoon on this one ! Mayby you just missread the e-mail. If not kill them both
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Damiaen




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 11:12    Post subject:
In my opinion you crossed the trust line too by going through her private mails.
Why not just talk to her about it.
Give her at least a chance to explain herself before jumping any conclusions.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 11:16    Post subject:
Seems more friendly. Because you never know - it can be hard to say no to a person too, your gf could be weak

Protect her from that bastard. Tell him to get the fuck away from her. And afterwards ask her if she agree. But i must admit her e-mails was over the edge. But i still think she got an bad feeling about this. She still like you, right?
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 11:35    Post subject:
Looks like your being played i feel bad for you, but confront her about it if she denies it show her the emails then dump her ass.


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 12:50    Post subject:
Damiaen wrote:
In my opinion you crossed the trust line too by going through her private mails.
Why not just talk to her about it.
Give her at least a chance to explain herself before jumping any conclusions.


I asked her several times why he kept on contacting her.
She admitted to ignore him.
So I have to ask myself why this exboyfriend keeps on
calling eventho my gf ignores is him.
When I checked out the last mails I found some mails where he
was wondering why she didn't reply his former mails.
Furthermore he asked if something changed or if he missed
some news (he actually wrote the question in a way which
can only be answered by 'I have a new boyfriend').
Actually the mail looks like he assumed that she had something
goin' on with a new guy.

To this mail she replies 'Hey my Honey, I have a lot of stress at work
and I am very busy learning for my exams.. I would like you to phone
me.. Here's my new number (...) Sending you a kiss, bye'

The worst thing is, that eventho he was obviously asking her if
she had a new guy she doesn't spend one single word on
my existence.
She was lyin' when she admitted to ignore him, actually she wants
contact (exchange new numbers etc)
'Honey' + 'send you a kiss' <<<NO FUCKING WAY!
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s0ulse3ker




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 12:57    Post subject:
roCcor wrote:
Damiaen wrote:
In my opinion you crossed the trust line too by going through her private mails.
Why not just talk to her about it.
Give her at least a chance to explain herself before jumping any conclusions.


I asked her several times why he kept on contacting her.
She admitted to ignore him.
So I have to ask myself why this exboyfriend keeps on
calling eventho my gf ignores is him.
When I checked out the last mails I found some mails where he
was wondering why she didn't reply his former mails.
Furthermore he asked if something changed or if he missed
some news (he actually wrote the question in a way which
can only be answered by 'I have a new boyfriend').
Actually the mail looks like he assumed that she had something
goin' on with a new guy.

To this mail she replies 'Hey my Honey, I have a lot of stress at work
and I am very busy learning for my exams.. I would like you to phone
me.. Here's my new number (...) Sending you a kiss, bye'

The worst thing is, that eventho he was obviously asking her if
she had a new guy she doesn't spend one single word on
my existence.
She was lyin' when she admitted to ignore him, actually she wants
contact (exchange new numbers etc)
'Honey' + 'send you a kiss' <<<NO FUCKING WAY!

Daaaamn... Shocked Dump her mate!!!


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roCcor




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 13:03    Post subject:
She just phoned me to tell me that she is on her way back home.
I must have been talkin' bit weird, 'cause she asked if there is any
problem. I am really looking forward to this conversation..
Perhaps I should print the mail and nail it on the outside of the frontdoor.
Then I don't have to talk.. Razz
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proddan




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 13:13    Post subject:
roCcor wrote:
She just phoned me to tell me that she is on her way back home.
I must have been talkin' bit weird, 'cause she asked if there is any
problem. I am really looking forward to this conversation..
Perhaps I should print the mail and nail it on the outside of the frontdoor.
Then I don't have to talk.. Razz

Ore she is a admin on this forum Rolling Eyes anyway tell us how it went and good luck m8 !
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PoorLeno




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 14:27    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
What type of rap have you been listening to? Usually it involves, guns, pimps, crime, and hoes. You are an idiot.

Who, in all honesty gets no sex. You don't even know what sex is.


Whoa, you need to learn how to flame. I wasn't even reffering to your post, which now I've read and you are a dope, so i'm not even writing this.

Carry on.


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 15:12    Post subject:
Roccor, keep on your sying, don't feel bad or shamefull about your acts, since as long as she doesn't know you are secretly checking her e-mails then there is no harm.

What doens't know, doesn't care.
Take precautions when you are spying on her stuff, like when you are reading her diary (if she has one) remember to put it back exactly where you found it and in the exact position.
When you read her e-mails only read the ones that are already been read by her, never read the ones that aren't open yet (I know sometimes it can be extremely tempting to do so, but DONT), small details and patient are everything.

And don't print out the mail and nail it to the door, very bad idea.
It's useless to incriminate yourself that early on, keep your options open, you know something that she doesn't know that you know, and that is your advantage when you have that conversation with her. If anything you still at least have denial as an option.
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 18:35    Post subject:
well imo there s no need for further spying, its over.
her convos with her ex-guy reveal more than enough, she s talking to him behind your back
and this situation could easily lead to her cheating on you.
it almost seems as if she s been dating you only to overcome him and she stil hasnt.
break it up now while its still early, dont waste your time on a girl thats not over her ex-guy,
she s very selfish and disrespectful, no need to go further than this.


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 19:25    Post subject:
D_A_Kuja: Why the hell can't you say "is" Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 21:20    Post subject:
PoorLeno wrote:
pistolshrimp wrote:
What type of rap have you been listening to? Usually it involves, guns, pimps, crime, and hoes. You are an idiot.

Who, in all honesty gets no sex. You don't even know what sex is.


Whoa, you need to learn how to flame. I wasn't even reffering to your post, which now I've read and you are a dope, so i'm not even writing this.

Carry on.



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spankie
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 22:33    Post subject:
man, as long as she isnt banging the other guy....

Maybe she is playing the ex to fuck around with him.

But if she denies that she has contact, then you are being screwed over.
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 23:16    Post subject:
@Pistol

naw, women are way more devious, imo. Guys are straight forward, most guys anyway. They either want something casual or something serious. Its not hard to tell what a man wants.

Maybe its me. Maybe I have devious female friends, i dunno. But Ive met/know alot of cold hearted women.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 23:19    Post subject:
amen to that Very Happy


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MaroW




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 23:56    Post subject:
god are you ppl as curious as i am whats gonna happen... damn... never happened to me on nforce
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Jun 2006 23:58    Post subject:
if she is fooling around behind your back, chop her parents in little pieces and mix it in chili which you feed to her Very Happy


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Siddhartha




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 02:03    Post subject:
I tend to agree with PistolShrimp and the others who are suggesting restraint. You have her email account, you can monitor the situation without her knowledge. For example, ask her to explain to this guy that she's with you, period, and to please get the other guy out of the picture because his constant presence is making you really uncomfortable. Once she knows your feelings, you can then confirm whether she's actually done it, or even tried to do it, by monitoring her email. If she keeps on talking to this guy, and to some extent flirting with him, without any regard to you, then I'd take the advice given here to dump her and not look back. She must care about you to some extent or she'd just flat out dump you to go back to him, right?
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 02:09    Post subject:
Siddhartha wrote:
I tend to agree with PistolShrimp and the others who are suggesting restraint. You have her email account, you can monitor the situation without her knowledge. For example, ask her to explain to this guy that she's with you, period, and to please get the other guy out of the picture because his constant presence is making you really uncomfortable. Once she knows your feelings, you can then confirm whether she's actually done it, or even tried to do it, by monitoring her email. If she keeps on talking to this guy, and to some extent flirting with him, without any regard to you, then I'd take the advice given here to dump her and not look back. She must care about you to some extent or she'd just flat out dump you to go back to him, right?


Man, restraint is near impossible when you've been betrayed like that.

I dunno if you've ever had a woman cheat on you or fuck you over. Most of the time the way it looks, is the way it is. Sometimes yes, things are innocent but rarely.
You should act according to your nature, not restrain yourself from going off on the person if your the one thats right.

Cheating is incredibly disrespectful, on so many levels. I think the person being cheated on has the right to unload on the cheater.
If your entertaining thoughts of cheating on someone your in a relationship with, something is obviously wrong with the relationship. One should either discuss the problem with their partner or dissolve the relationship. While thats still harsh, it isnt as bad a cheating...

I just dont understand how anyone could show restraint in that type of situation. I can't, Im not going to lie. I would yell and bust out those emails right away. Why let her lie to you and piss you off even more? Get all out in the open and off your chest is the best method Id say.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 02:26    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Cheating is incredibly disrespectful, on so many levels. I think the person being cheated on has the right to unload on the cheater.


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 02:26    Post subject:
Laughing Laughing Laughing

I meant verbally unload their feelings and such Smile


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Siddhartha




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 02:33    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Siddhartha wrote:
I tend to agree with PistolShrimp and the others who are suggesting restraint. You have her email account, you can monitor the situation without her knowledge. For example, ask her to explain to this guy that she's with you, period, and to please get the other guy out of the picture because his constant presence is making you really uncomfortable. Once she knows your feelings, you can then confirm whether she's actually done it, or even tried to do it, by monitoring her email. If she keeps on talking to this guy, and to some extent flirting with him, without any regard to you, then I'd take the advice given here to dump her and not look back. She must care about you to some extent or she'd just flat out dump you to go back to him, right?


Man, restraint is near impossible when you've been betrayed like that.

I dunno if you've ever had a woman cheat on you or fuck you over. Most of the time the way it looks, is the way it is. Sometimes yes, things are innocent but rarely.
You should act according to your nature, not restrain yourself from going off on the person if your the one thats right.

Cheating is incredibly disrespectful, on so many levels. I think the person being cheated on has the right to unload on the cheater.
If your entertaining thoughts of cheating on someone your in a relationship with, something is obviously wrong with the relationship. One should either discuss the problem with their partner or dissolve the relationship. While thats still harsh, it isnt as bad a cheating...

I just dont understand how anyone could show restraint in that type of situation. I can't, Im not going to lie. I would yell and bust out those emails right away. Why let her lie to you and piss you off even more? Get all out in the open and off your chest is the best method Id say.


In any relationship there is a certain amount of trust necessary. He isn't going to have to guess at what she's thinking, he'll be able to read her emails to learn the truth. I simply think he owes it to himself, and to her for that matter, to be SURE before he acts. He has the means of learning the truth, why not utilize it rather than jumping the gun when this may be harmless. Honestly, what is the downside of being patient? Worst case scenario, nforce guy sleeps with her some more (protected), he learns the horrible truth, he prepares himself and dumps her with a vengeance. Then her fake tears won't work, she won't be pulling on the emotional heartstrings, and he'll absolutely know its all bullshit. If he's ruthless, he can even take steps to make her life miserable before he pulls the plug on the relationship.

Of course, I'm saying this being totally detached from the situation, whereas in real life our emotions tend to overwhelm our higher brain functions.
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 03:00    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Laughing Laughing Laughing

I meant verbally unload their feelings and such Smile


i know, i just couldnt resist Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 03:32    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:

Most of the time the way it looks, is the way it is.


best frase ever!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 03:37    Post subject:
Siddhartha wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
Siddhartha wrote:
I tend to agree with PistolShrimp and the others who are suggesting restraint. You have her email account, you can monitor the situation without her knowledge. For example, ask her to explain to this guy that she's with you, period, and to please get the other guy out of the picture because his constant presence is making you really uncomfortable. Once she knows your feelings, you can then confirm whether she's actually done it, or even tried to do it, by monitoring her email. If she keeps on talking to this guy, and to some extent flirting with him, without any regard to you, then I'd take the advice given here to dump her and not look back. She must care about you to some extent or she'd just flat out dump you to go back to him, right?


Man, restraint is near impossible when you've been betrayed like that.

I dunno if you've ever had a woman cheat on you or fuck you over. Most of the time the way it looks, is the way it is. Sometimes yes, things are innocent but rarely.
You should act according to your nature, not restrain yourself from going off on the person if your the one thats right.

Cheating is incredibly disrespectful, on so many levels. I think the person being cheated on has the right to unload on the cheater.
If your entertaining thoughts of cheating on someone your in a relationship with, something is obviously wrong with the relationship. One should either discuss the problem with their partner or dissolve the relationship. While thats still harsh, it isnt as bad a cheating...

I just dont understand how anyone could show restraint in that type of situation. I can't, Im not going to lie. I would yell and bust out those emails right away. Why let her lie to you and piss you off even more? Get all out in the open and off your chest is the best method Id say.


In any relationship there is a certain amount of trust necessary. He isn't going to have to guess at what she's thinking, he'll be able to read her emails to learn the truth. I simply think he owes it to himself, and to her for that matter, to be SURE before he acts. He has the means of learning the truth, why not utilize it rather than jumping the gun when this may be harmless. Honestly, what is the downside of being patient? Worst case scenario, nforce guy sleeps with her some more (protected), he learns the horrible truth, he prepares himself and dumps her with a vengeance. Then her fake tears won't work, she won't be pulling on the emotional heartstrings, and he'll absolutely know its all bullshit. If he's ruthless, he can even take steps to make her life miserable before he pulls the plug on the relationship.

Of course, I'm saying this being totally detached from the situation, whereas in real life our emotions tend to overwhelm our higher brain functions.


The downside to being patient is more anger.
The fact that you were lied to in the first place hurts like hell. Then to watch someone try to lie to you and all the while they claim they love you when you know for fact thats not true.
Fuck that. I mean, its one thing to be in the situation and I can see why someone would be patient but, I think it causes undeserved pain and anguish.

Different strokes for different folks right? Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 03:39    Post subject:
hrm...first you mention "unload" now "stroke"...you got to find yourself a girl mate Laughing


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werdercanuck wrote:
hrm...first you mention "unload" now "stroke"...you got to find yourself a girl mate Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 03:45    Post subject:
of course i have and i know what you mean. i just enjoy taking everything literally Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jun 2006 04:00    Post subject:
kumkss wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:

Most of the time the way it looks, is the way it is.


best frase ever!! Very Happy


There is a little voice inside you but you can't let it rule your life.

Hello! Death thing.

I am surprised nobody has taken that into consideration. All I am saying is his little world is off its axis ATM. Don't you think that is going to influence his perception of events. He should put some kind of key logger on the computer.


@syco
Women and men are both devious differently. You probably don't notice as to when the guys are doing it because you are one, and because you have been burned by your ex. Guys lie to get sex all the time. Promise all sorts of shit. Maybe I have no idea what I am talking about. I guess women have to resort to sneaker means to get what they want because they don't have the physical strength so they overcompensate. Women are definitely cut throat to one another.

I guess I just like to stay away from the labelling. Yes, you will always judge people to some degree, because you have to protect yourself. Creating all these assumptions about people just limits you and the experiences you are going to have in your life.
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