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 Posted: Wed, 7th Jun 2006 03:06 Post subject: Beast's real mark devalued to '616' |
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http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11134
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Satanists, apocalypse watchers and heavy metal guitarists may have to adjust their demonic numerology after a recently deciphered ancient biblical text revealed that 666 is not the fabled Number of the Beast after all.
A fragment from the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament, dating to the Third century, gives the more mundane 616 as the mark of the Antichrist.
Ellen Aitken, a professor of early Christian history at McGill University, said the discovery appears to spell the end of 666 as the devil's prime number.
"This is a very nice piece to find," Dr. Aitken said. "Scholars have argued for a long time over this, and it now seems that 616 was the original number of the beast."
The tiny fragment of 1,500-year-old papyrus is written in Greek, the original language of the New Testament, and contains a key passage from the Book of Revelation.
Where more conventional versions of the Bible give 666 as the "number of the beast," or the sign of the anti-Christ whose coming is predicted in the book's apocalyptic verses, the older version uses the Greek letters signifying 616.
"This is very early confirmation of that number, earlier than any other text we've found of that passage," Dr. Aitken said. "It's probably about 100 years before any other version."
The fragment was part of a hoard of previously illegible manuscripts discovered in an ancient garbage dump outside the Egyptian city of Oxyrhynchus. Although the papyrus was first excavated in 1895, it was badly discoloured and damaged. Classics scholars at Oxford University were only recently able to read it using new advanced imaging techniques.
Elijah Dann, a professor of philosophy and religion at the University of Toronto, said the new number is unlikely to make a dent in the popularity of 666.
"Otherwise, a lot of sermons would have to be changed and a lot of movies rewritten," he said with a laugh. "There's always someone with an active imagination who can put another interpretation on it.
"It just shows you that when you study something as cryptic and mystic as the Book of Revelation there's an almost unlimited number of interpretations."
The book is thought to have been written by the disciple John and according to the King James Bible, the traditional translation of the passage reads: "Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
But Dr. Aitken said that translation was drawn from much later versions of the New Testament than the fragment found in Oxyrhynchus. "When we're talking about the early biblical texts, we're always talking about copies and they are copies made, at best, 150 to 200 years after [the original] was written," she said.
"They can have mistakes in the copying, changes for political or theological reasons ... it's like a detective story piecing it all together."
Dr. Aitken said, however, that scholars now believe the number in question has very little to do the devil. It was actually a complicated numerical riddle in Greek, meant to represent someone's name, she said.
"It's a number puzzle -- the majority opinion seems to be that it refers to [the Roman emperor] Nero."
Revelation was actually a thinly disguised political tract, with the names of those being criticized changed to numbers to protect the authors and early Christians from reprisals. "It's a very political document," Dr. Aitken said. "It's a critique of the politics and society of the Roman empire, but it's written in coded language and riddles."
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werdercanuck
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jun 2006 03:12 Post subject: |
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not so sure about that, because its already stated very clearly in the bible that 666 is the number of the beast:
Revelations 13:18
| Quote: | | Here is wisdom. He who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is six hundred sixty-six. |
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jun 2006 03:48 Post subject: |
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Let the idiots adjust their numerologies, who gives a shit.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jun 2006 04:35 Post subject: |
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| werdercanuck wrote: | not so sure about that, because its already stated very clearly in the bible that 666 is the number of the beast:
Revelations 13:18
| Quote: | | Here is wisdom. He who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is six hundred sixty-six. |
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didnt you read the article man? Its from one of the earliest copies of the new testament, 3rd century...that is the bible.
And if you look at the facts, the view about revelations being a political document reflecting the roman world is accurate. As oppose to it being an end times prediction.
It clearly speaks of the corruption during and after Nero's reign and the injustice done on early christians...it holds no relevance and is not applicable today. |
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 18:07 Post subject: |
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lol @ the bible thumper not reading the article before he spewed his garbage
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Grees
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jun 2006 20:53 Post subject: |
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So 06-01-2006 was the real day of the devil?
That kinda sucks, ready for the appocalypse five months too late, typical humanity.
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 18:55 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 19:02 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jun 2006 19:05 Post subject: |
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What about it. Is it 6 inches?
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 02:15 Post subject: |
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hi i have a question im new and i would like to know where i can download this game there no download links or codes pls awnser
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 02:22 Post subject: |
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| vietnam7 wrote: | | hi i have a question im new and i would like to know where i can download this game there no download links or codes pls awnser |
You are kidding right?
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 04:00 Post subject: |
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| vietnam7 wrote: | | hi i have a question im new and i would like to know where i can download this game there no download links or codes pls awnser |
the link is right over there!!!!
see that big red X... click it for teh super secret download.
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jun 2006 16:04 Post subject: |
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thats wrong what yiou have said now shut up with your -999999999999999 mmmmmmllllll penis
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