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Mutantius
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| Sublime wrote: | it was good, some amazing stuff especially on the awp. still bugs i noticed:
- the uglieness of the colt
- the crapness of all the good guns, only the mp5 controls the same if not a lil better. pistols work better too
- when puttin on silencers u can still right click q q and attach it fast
- u can jump inside barrels but it puches u out
- u can kick milk cartons it moves away and u move backwards
- throwin guns is slow a few times at the end of a round ive not picked up in time
- when u plant the bomb if u put in like 1 number drop it and pick it up again when u plant itll be complete
- when planting/in deatch cam sometimes the bomb can be see through
- the lights on the floor look pretty shitty
- it has no FF alerts
thats all the Bugs i found. its still a great game though and gonna kickass when is complete. =) |
Gotta remember that this is a beta...
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 15:04 Post subject: |
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| Mutantius wrote: | | Sublime wrote: | it was good, some amazing stuff especially on the awp. still bugs i noticed:
- the uglieness of the colt
- the crapness of all the good guns, only the mp5 controls the same if not a lil better. pistols work better too
- when puttin on silencers u can still right click q q and attach it fast
- u can jump inside barrels but it puches u out
- u can kick milk cartons it moves away and u move backwards
- throwin guns is slow a few times at the end of a round ive not picked up in time
- when u plant the bomb if u put in like 1 number drop it and pick it up again when u plant itll be complete
- when planting/in deatch cam sometimes the bomb can be see through
- the lights on the floor look pretty shitty
- it has no FF alerts
thats all the Bugs i found. its still a great game though and gonna kickass when is complete. =) |
Gotta remember that this is a beta... |
Its not reallllllly a beta. The engine is technically done, and the internal beta is done. Its an open beta which generally is more for sneak peak and stressing the netcode. The gameplay will change slightly, but not all that much. |
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 15:58 Post subject: |
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I think it's just another way for Valve to make more cash..especially making you buy CS:Cz to be able to play this souce. I would never buy a POS game like CZ to play this..no thanks, I think I'll wait. Valve has gone from a kickass company to needing some serious PR work. Their reputation is really tarnished.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 16:01 Post subject: |
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Well yes but the Engine have it's issues and i think some of them will be fixed when the release of HL2 and CS:S become a reality...
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 16:05 Post subject: |
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| TuSeiSkeefoso wrote: | | I think it's just another way for Valve to make more cash..especially making you buy CS:Cz to be able to play this souce. I would never buy a POS game like CZ to play this..no thanks, I think I'll wait. Valve has gone from a kickass company to needing some serious PR work. Their reputation is really tarnished. |
Yes a company offering an incentive for people to buy one of their products - what a fucking disgrace!
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 16:54 Post subject: |
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| TuSeiSkeefoso wrote: | | I think it's just another way for Valve to make more cash..especially making you buy CS:Cz to be able to play this souce. I would never buy a POS game like CZ to play this..no thanks, I think I'll wait. Valve has gone from a kickass company to needing some serious PR work. Their reputation is really tarnished. |
Obviously, they're not gonna make it an open beta to everyone.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 17:57 Post subject: |
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i believe it is dryans goal in life to piss people off 
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 18:20 Post subject: |
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ok, ff alerts should be on because when theres a gunfight in smoke and ur gettin shot at from a "flame" ur gonna just fire back. also u fuckin retard, in 1.6 now it actually takes the exact same time to put on silencer when changing weapon as it does when normally attaching. this was a quick trick and u can do that on source, play them both and trust me.
a few other bugs i noticed the gas leak doesnt happen in the correct place all the time. and footsteps whilst carrying a sniper rifle (besides scout) sound really muffled yet speed isnt that bad, so u can "run" with an awp which is faster than a walk with a scout (the fastest weapon on the game including a knife) and still not be heard, maybe one or 2 steps might.
still there are many improvements
- the graphic models of the guns. they all look amazing even the colt which needs to be lowerd on the screen.
- shadows do work
- the fade of a flashbang
- some of the physics but can be annoying when u forget abt barrels and back into them
- additional features to the level, back axel off a car, a fence, arched door ways.
- new sound effects, the shotgun sounds like a shotgun and shooting a fence sounds like shooting a fence
- bullet marks
- the shattering of glass bottles
- the player models look good
- the bomb and the animation
- the fact u can spray ur logo more than once per round
i could go on for ages, its a great game but i will still play CS 1.6 for a long time until cs s is brought up to that standard. they seriously need to adjust the colt and the AK and the bullpup.
some bugs again
- when walking next to a player u keep bumping off and stuff can be annoying
- crappy knife fights cant cant used to them
- the sound of the 4200$ sniper rifle, sounds a lil like the colt does
- when firin with the famas and u put it on burst its just a semi automatic fire.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 19:27 Post subject: |
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i will in 2 days when i legitimatly get to play source otherwise i fear my account will get disabled 
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 19:30 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 21:09 Post subject: |
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| dryan wrote: | | Phluxed wrote: | | i believe it is dryans goal in life to piss people off |
Haha why would you say such a thing?! 
Seriously I think most of the criticism Valve gets is unjustified and most of the stuff people say against them just sounds like people are itching to have a go at them for whatever they do. |
i agree. i mean valve didnt have to buy all the licenses for the game, they didnt have to provide steam as a FREE service, they dont have to reguarly contact fans and update the games, dont dont have to do shit really. i doubt that they' make much profit from having steam licenses im sure they do but i doubt its a lot. also they dont have to attract other parts of the community by adding 3rd party games to the list. i seriously doubt the companys need for money and i rate it as a top class games company that provides. |
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 21:27 Post subject: |
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no one should buy condition zero for this. this is just a scam by valve to get people to buy cz which no one bought. how can you sell the same game everyone got for free for $40 with new textures and expect everyone to buy it. i don't feel even a little bad for the hl2 leak. they deserved it. the beta is just one fucking level de_dust which we have all played to death. i thought it would be the whole thing with all the maps. yeah it looks a lot better but it isn't worth it when we will have the whole thing in a month tops.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 21:56 Post subject: |
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OK so don't buy CZ if you don't think it is worth it just to get the beta. They're not fucking forcing you to buy it. At least people who want the beta have the opportunity to get it. Don't bitch at them for at least giving you the option of getting the beta which is a shitload more than most companies do.
BTW, Aren't they releasing CS:Source with HL2? So when you say they're charging $40 for the same game everyone got for free with new textures you're actually talking complete shit and they're giving ungrateful fucks like you 2 games for 1.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 22:28 Post subject: |
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dryan condition zero is completely the same as the original cs ok that is what i meant when i was talking about paying for the same game. i wasn't dissing the source version i think it's a much more noticeable improvement over the original. it has a lot more than just new textures. i love the new look. i just think that buying a game to play one level is stupid when we get the whole game with hl2 next month.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 22:30 Post subject: |
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This beta is crap. It's really a deception for me. Only a fanboy could really be amazed by that ...
Here is why.
- It looks better than CS, but barelly. 2 /3 bump maps, sharper textures, a few more polygons (but not much). Compared to the actual production, it's nothing great. Way under Far cry or doom3, or even painkiller. I can't understand how anyone could go "wow, it's really nice / it looks gorgeous."
- Shadows works ? Come on, they have nothing special. Projected shadows for the models and a few objects ? It's a 1 year old feature ! Max payne had it ! Hitman had it ! It would be a shame not to have that, it's nothing impressive to have it.
- The maps are not exactly the same : WTF ? Counter is like 3 years old ! How could they have kept the same maps !
- New sounds, new weapons ... are you amazed that there is anything new in the game or what ? This is nothing exeptional for god's sake !
- The physics : Okay technically they are here. The thing is, they have no or almost no influence on gameplay. There's 10 barrels that can falls and roll over in the maps. It doesn't actually change anything to the game !
Conclusion : What we have here is the first counter, barely better-looking, with no or almost no new features.
Fanboys, however, seems to have the extraordinary capacitie to find all they see on that beta wonderfull. Indeed, if you've played nothing but CS for the last 2/3 years, you might find that 2 bump map, 3 pixel shader effects, and more than 100 polygons in a scene are eyecandy. You might also find that moving 3 crates and 2 barrel around on the map is a major improvement.
But if you've seen max payne 2, far cry, Pandora tomorow, or most of the latest game, CS:source will smell like 2 years old un-original game.
And don't hammer me with the "it's a beta thing". I know ! I've ignored all the bugs or feature that could change until release. But unless they messed up and released the wrong version, this won't turn out to be anything like a great multiplayer game.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 22:34 Post subject: |
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you seem to be missing the point of this.
this is not CS2, it's CS:Source
It is supposed to be CS with CS maps and CS gameplay running on the Source engine, nothing more.
It is just that.
It is FREE! A FREE ADDITION to HL2, they don't charge anything for it and for a free *goodie* it's really nice.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 22:46 Post subject: |
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| kakek wrote: |
Conclusion : What we have here is the first counter, barely better-looking, with no or almost no new features.
Fanboys, however, seems to have the extraordinary capacitie to find all they see on that beta wonderfull. Indeed, if you've played nothing but CS for the last 2/3 years, you might find that 2 bump map, 3 pixel shader effects, and more than 100 polygons in a scene are eyecandy. You might also find that moving 3 crates and 2 barrel around on the map is a major improvement.
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Im not a CS-Fanboy and i think it's all wonderful, look very forward to play HL 2 with this...
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 22:48 Post subject: |
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quite seriously, it doesnt offer anything new gameplay wise it's just CS graphics made a little better.
So I really wouldnt buy this if they sold it as standalone game because it doesnt offer anything new.
But as it comes with HL2 I think it's great and I'm gonna play it and many many people are gonna play it and it's going to be a tremendous success eventhough it's basically just CS.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 22:49 Post subject: |
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it rocks. It really does, its really different from the original CS and if you dont notice any changes... you haven't played CS a lot.
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 22:50 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 22:52 Post subject: |
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| Ultraroms wrote: | | Server: 68.5.56.87:27016 |
Dude, try to come with more info...
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004 23:01 Post subject: |
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| Wihl wrote: | | you haven't played CS a lot. |
and that's a bad thing?
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