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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 03:42    Post subject: Valet tipping?
I like to use valet parking on trips, and I tip $3. Is that to little or is it OK??????

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 03:46    Post subject:
they get tipped 20 bux plus.... Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 04:45    Post subject:
NOTHING!!! its their fucking job!!! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 04:46    Post subject:
werdercanuck wrote:
NOTHING!!! its their fucking job!!! Very Happy

that;s mean Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 04:56    Post subject:
i never use valet so i dont care Razz same kinda goes with waiters/waitresses. i only tip based on the service. if i didnt like the service they get nothing. good example was this one time we went to pizza hut. took the waitress about 15 minutes to bring us our drinks. she didnt get a dime...
and quite honestly, i think thats fair, why should i give anybody a tip who gives me lousy service? the other time i went to a german restaurant here, they treated us like fucking royalty lol the chef even came to our table and asked if everything is to our liking etc. i left 30$ on tips


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:09    Post subject:
its there fucking job why should anyone subzidise there fucking wages?

its beyong a joke these days , maybe it wouldnt be to bad if people didnt expect tips
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:11    Post subject:
werdercanuck wrote:
i never use valet so i dont care Razz same kinda goes with waiters/waitresses. i only tip based on the service. if i didnt like the service they get nothing. good example was this one time we went to pizza hut. took the waitress about 15 minutes to bring us our drinks. she didnt get a dime...
and quite honestly, i think thats fair, why should i give anybody a tip who gives me lousy service? the other time i went to a german restaurant here, they treated us like fucking royalty lol the chef even came to our table and asked if everything is to our liking etc. i left 30$ on tips

great philosophy. same thing is done around here, no one likes shitty services, you don't deserve a tip if you are slow and crappy. lol Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:25    Post subject:
werdercanuck wrote:
i never use valet so i dont care Razz same kinda goes with waiters/waitresses. i only tip based on the service. if i didnt like the service they get nothing. good example was this one time we went to pizza hut. took the waitress about 15 minutes to bring us our drinks. she didnt get a dime...
and quite honestly, i think thats fair, why should i give anybody a tip who gives me lousy service? the other time i went to a german restaurant here, they treated us like fucking royalty lol the chef even came to our table and asked if everything is to our liking etc. i left 30$ on tips


Exactly. Depends on the server and the place.

Strip bars rob you blind. You have to tip or you wont get good service...fuckin strippers...


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:29    Post subject:
most waiters and waitresses/valets count on their tips to make a decent wage.

tipping isn't optional, unless you're a dick.


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:31    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
most waiters and waitresses/valets count on their tips to make a decent wage.

tipping isn't optional, unless you're a dick.


if they want a decent tip, give me decent service. easy as that Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:32    Post subject:
yeah, but what if they are short-staffed, over-worked, and have a shitty kitchen. should they still get paid only a couple bucks an hour?


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:33    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
most waiters and waitresses/valets count on their tips to make a decent wage.

tipping isn't optional, unless you're a dick.

then they should get a better job or ask for a payrise, alot of people work for shitty wages and dont expect tips
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:33    Post subject:
honestly, thats not my problem. time to find a new job i'd say


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:40    Post subject:
I tip way too much where ever I go.
If people have it worse off, you should support them.
Help the homeless, but giving them a few bucks or buying them a meal at a subway or summn.

Who cares if they spend it on booze or drugs...

You have to help when help is needed... if you ignore it... you're nothing more than a god damn asshole. I’m sorry. If you’re greedy penny-pincher you ought to live in a homeless shelter or on the streets to see how tough some people have it. Also, if you take life for granted, you should die Laughing Very Happy

Seriously. Some people do their best to put food on the table, even if the job is shunned by the society. It's up to you whether you want to help them or not. I choose to help them. No matter what’s the price.


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:45    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
I tip way too much where ever I go.
If people have it worse off, you should support them.
Help the homeless, but giving them a few bucks or buying them a meal at a subway or summn.

Who cares if they spend it on booze or drugs...

You have to help when help is needed... if you ignore it... you're nothing more than a god damn asshole. I’m sorry. If you’re greedy penny-pincher you ought to live in a homeless shelter or on the streets to see how tough some people have it. Also, if you take life for granted, you should die Laughing Very Happy

Seriously. Some people do their best to put food on the table, even if the job is shunned by the society. It's up to you whether you want to help them or not. I choose to help them. No matter what’s the price.

what good is giving money to a hobo if hes gonna spend it on booze or drugs?? thats not gonna help them at all, thats just gonna feed a bad habit.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:49    Post subject:
i have no problem giving donations to the real needy people. i always give a donation to the childrens hospital here. but i wont give a dime to some homeless people. 99% of them its their own fucking fault to be in that situation. tough...not my problem


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:53    Post subject:
mike- wrote:
what good is giving money to a hobo if hes gonna spend it on booze or drugs?? thats not gonna help them at all, thats just gonna feed a bad habit.

Eeither way the money they'll get will go on booze and narcotics. In my opinion, it's good that it's my money and not someone else’s. People see it as a waste. I've seen homeless people buy food with the money that was given to them. Not each and every single hobo is an alcoholic.

It's a hit/miss situation. I don't really care what they spend it on. It's good for them if they want to waste it on alcohol/narcotics. Some of them can't help it that they're addicted. But others really need it. And if you see every hobo as a narcotics-abuser or an alcoholic and you ignore each and every one of them because of it, you're failing to help a whole lot of needy people.

I just can't do that.

It’s the way I work. Some people need help and people just walk by and ignore them. That’s just wrong. I can’t stand it. People need help, and everyone else thinks they’re snobby and ignore the problem. I hate that.

I want some of these pricks wake up to the life they, themselves, ignore and see how horrid/painful it really is. And I hope others will ignore them just as they, themselves, did. Twisted Evil Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:55    Post subject:
i'd give money to the homeless, if they didn't end up there by their actions. like you said, it could go to booze or drugs, which might even be the reason why they are in the situation they are in. if i'm gonna help one of them, i'll go buy some food and give them it, that way it goes to what i know will help, rather than what i know'll make the situation no better than it is.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 05:57    Post subject:
i help lots of people, but its my choice of who i help and who i dont. homeless people are at the bottom of my list, but that doesnt make me an ignorant asshole like you kinda put it (im not saying that you call me that Wink )
most homeless people, like i said before, put themselves in their position, they are grown up and if they really wanted to, they could get themselves out of it. and in most bigger cities if you are homeless you get food at all the shelters, why should i give them money if they get their food? doesnt make much sense to me...but thats just me


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 06:06    Post subject:
But addiction is a serious problem.

People commit suicide because of their addictions. It may not seem like much, but giving a starving alcoholic a bottle of rum is a good thing. I know it's not ok to support substance abuse or substance addiction, but some of these people can't help it. And even if you think it's unacceptable, sometimes you have to help them.

You can't just ignore it. It won't get better because you ignore it. It’ll get worse.

People won't get a better job because you won’t tip them. They'll continue doing what they do because they
a) have a family to feed
b) have bills to pay
c) all of the above
d) trying to live a normal life
e) etc.

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 06:18    Post subject:
i didnt say all of them, i said most of them. and quite frankly, i dont care what you think of me, its my choice not to support some homeless' addiction, i dont think it really helps them anyway.

and about waiters/waitresses, i do tip them, if the service is satisfying. read my example again, there is no fucking excuse to take over 15 minutes to bring us our drinks, no matter how short-staffed they are. it usually doesnt take longer than 2 fucking minutes.


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 06:23    Post subject:
Wait till the shoe is on the other foot.


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 10:33    Post subject:
Iv never understood the tip things. I pay what it tells me.
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Quote:
NICE GUY EDDIE: Okay, everybody cough up green for the little lady.
NICE GUY EDDIE: C'mon, throw in a buck.
MR. PINK: Uh-uh. I don't tip.
NICE GUY EDDIE: Whaddaya mean you don't tip?
MR. PINK: I don't believe in it.
NICE GUY EDDIE: You don't believe in tipping?
MR. WHITE: I love this kid, he's a madman, this guy.
MR. BLONDE: Do you have any idea what these ladies make? They make shit.
MR. PINK: Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit.
NICE GUY EDDIE: I don't even know a Jew who'd have the balls to say that. So let's get this straight. You never ever tip?
MR. PINK: I don't tip because society says I gotta. I tip when somebody deserves a tip. When somebody really puts forth an effort, they deserve a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, that shit's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin their job.
MR. BLUE: Our girl was nice.
MR. PINK: Our girl was okay. She didn't do anything special.
MR. BLONDE: What's something special, take ya in the kitchen and suck your dick?
NICE GUY EDDIE: I'd go over twelve percent for that.
MR. PINK: Look, I ordered coffee. Now we've been here a long fuckin time, and she's only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee, I want it filled six times.
MR. BLONDE: What if she's too busy?
MR. PINK: The words "too busy" shouldn't be in a waitress's vocabulary.
NICE GUY EDDIE: Excuse me, Mr. White, but the last thing you need is another cup of coffee.
MR. PINK: These ladies aren't starvin to death. They make minimum wage. When I worked for minimum wage, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tipworthy.
NICE GUY EDDIE: Ahh, now we're getting down to it. It's not just that he's a cheap bastard--
MR. ORANGE: --It is that too--
NICE GUY EDDIE: --It is that too. But it's also he couldn't get a waiter job. You talk like a pissed off dishwasher: "Fuck those cunts and their fucking tips."
MR. BLONDE: So you don't care that they're counting on your tip to live?
MR. PINK: Do you know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin, playing just for the waitresses.

MR. BLONDE: You don't have any idea what you're talking about. These people bust their ass. This is a hard job.
MR. PINK: So's working at McDonald's, but you don't feel the need to tip them. They're servin ya food, you should tip em. But no, society says tip these guys over here, but not those guys over there. That's bullshit.
MR. ORANGE: They work harder than the kids at McDonald's.
MR. PINK: Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning fryers.
MR. BROWN: These people are taxed on the tips they make. When you stiff 'em, you cost them money.
MR. BLONDE: Waitressing is the number one occupation for female non-college graduates in this country. It's the one jab basically any woman can get, and make a living on. The reason is because of tips.
MR. PINK: Fuck all that. Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's fucked up. But that ain't my fault. it would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non- college bullshit you're telling me, I got two words for that: "Learn to fuckin type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big fuckin surprise.
MR. ORANGE: He's convinced me. Give me my dollar back.
JOE: Okay ramblers, let's get to rambling. Wait a minute, who didn't throw in?
MR. ORANGE: Mr. White.
JOE: Mr. White? Why?
MR. ORANGE: He don't tip.
JOE: He don't tip? You don't tip? Why?
MR. ORANGE: He don't believe in it.
JOE: He don't believe in it? You don't believe in it?
MR. ORANGE: Nope.
JOE: Shut up! Cough up the buck, ya cheap bastard, I paid for your goddamn breakfast.
MR. PINK: Because you paid for the breakfast, I'm gonna tip. Normally I wouldn't.
JOE: Whatever. Just throw in your dollar, and let's move. See what I'm dealing with here. Infants. I'm fuckin dealin with infants.

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 15:26    Post subject:
what the fuck has tipping got to do with homeless people?

where i live THEY CHOOSE TO BE HOMELESS, they could goto the goverment for help and live of benefits but THEY CHOOSE NOT TO.
plenty of people in the UK live off the goverment ,there is no excuse for beeing homeless here.

also most tramps always have DOGS! they can afford to feed a fucking dog then they can afford to feed them self's.

oh ill by a dog for sympathy Rolling Eyes , those assclowns need a good beating not a few dollars for emotional blackmail
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 15:53    Post subject:
I dont like tipping too, it feels like youre being served by a bom that waits for your money.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 17:58    Post subject:
omfg, I can't believe some of the bullshit you people are spouting about homeless people.

Their fucking choice? Are you fucking kidding me?

http://hiddenhomeless.ca/


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 18:07    Post subject:
Thank you! Sad Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 18:16    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
omfg, I can't believe some of the bullshit you people are spouting about homeless people.

Their fucking choice? Are you fucking kidding me?

http://hiddenhomeless.ca/

i was refering to the country i live in not the homeless people of canada.

over here if you have nowhere to live then the goverment will find you somewhere and very fast they will also pay the fucking rent if you cant afford to

you can live on state benefits forever aslong as you can provide proof you are actively seeking work, after around 6months of signing on the goverment will pressure you into any crap job but its not hard to give a bad impression of yourself in a job interview is it.

i know someone who is 29 and has never had a job in his life he still has a roof over his head and can afford to go out clubbing every week

these so called homeless people in the UK obviously just dont want jobs and there are alot of them
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Jul 2006 18:39    Post subject:
After looking at what the UK does for it's homeless, I'm embarrassed for how little we do here Sad

Actually, looks like there are quite a lot of people who can't find a place to live in the UK. I think you're forgetting that there is a lot of bureaucracy involved in getting benefits.

Quote:
"When you add in the 380,000 'hidden homeless' - those living in hostels, squats and other places - there are nearly half a million homeless people in the UK today," .




http://www.crisis.org.uk/policywatch/pages/hidden_homeless.html



So yes, there are plenty of homeless people in the UK that get no assistance at all.


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