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Bigperm
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| compubrain3000 wrote: | | Bigperm wrote: | | Parallax_ wrote: | | I agree to disagree. I if you removed religion from society today you would still have structure, laws, and most people would have morality, just like it is today. |
The reason we have religion today was becasue we lacked structure and morality. With out it, we would still be barbarians. But i agree that now, in this day and age; organized religion serves little purpose. |
What makes you think that if religion is removed, the structure and morality will remain intact?
You assume that humans have evolved beyond the need for religion, but have they really?
Are humans today that much different from the humans that lived before? |
I said organized religion, not religion as a whole. These are two completely different things. We still need to pass down our beliefs, and moral values, ethics etc.
And yes, humans today are way, way different from the humans than have lived before.
Humans are still evolving, learning etc.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Jul 2006 22:13 Post subject: |
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| nouseforaname wrote: | | YourGod wrote: | | 86% R infidels on this forum................................ |
FFS!
NOT THE FUCKING SAME AS 'ARE'!!!@!  |
Thanks for the image. That will work out just great.  |
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Jul 2006 23:20 Post subject: |
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fraich3
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Jul 2006 23:51 Post subject: |
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I personally think religion is ok if people gain from it themself and doesnt harm other people cause of their religion/slash put their own religion upon others.
And i also believe religion is a side effect og civilization, but at the same time carries a big respondsibilty for the good and bad progress civilization has made. Which is why i can say that i share the viewpoint of Bigperm in most of his views.
"Zipfero is the biggest fucking golddigger ever" - Mutantius
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Jul 2006 00:28 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Jul 2006 01:07 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 16:15 Post subject: |
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No.
The more things change, The more they stay the same.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Jul 2006 01:16 Post subject: |
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R you religious?
No but I am spiritual...ish
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poullou
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kumkss
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Aug 2006 18:37 Post subject: |
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| compubrain3000 wrote: | | Parallax_ wrote: | You say the world has always needed religion, but it has always been individuals who has craved for something to believe in beyond their own existence. This has changed in the later centuries because of the introduction of science into society. Individuals today learn about morality from society itself (be it their parents, friends, other people, etc), not from religion - that is why I believe morality and other factors will not change if you remove religion.
Why do you believe religion might be the cause of morality and structure because it has been around for a long time? Surely society itself has existed as long as religion, if not longer. |
But aren't western societies built on Christian values? The core ethical system is based on the Christian religion, aren't they? |
yes, indeed they are.
BUT whats funny -and like Immanuel Kant told, the moral system is or can be substained by itself, with no need of religion... Christian ethics, at the end, mix with "pure reason", which results in the system we live in.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Aug 2006 03:55 Post subject: |
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Even tho Western society was built around Christian values...I dunno if they quite apply anymore.
Western society has evolved to tolerate religion. We havent allowed ourselves to be run by religion, which is good.
Even tho the US seems to be gettin more and more theocratic
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Aug 2006 19:21 Post subject: |
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I think the states has become more religious as well. More Christian like. Especially with some of their medical issues.
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WareZKing
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Aug 2006 20:04 Post subject: |
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religion is for crazies. and catholicism is for pedos.
"My fate to live and die in the shadows."
LUBE IS FOR PUSSIES
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Aug 2006 03:49 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | | I think the states has become more religious as well. More Christian like. Especially with some of their medical issues. |
The US was founded on puritan and christian beliefs. Even tho they claim there is a separation of church and state, I think its bs. the majority of presidents (or maybe even all of em) were/are christian. |
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Aug 2006 04:32 Post subject: |
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What was Canada and France founded on?
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Aug 2006 04:58 Post subject: |
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| YourGod wrote: | | What was Canada and France founded on? |
true
We were founded on Christian values too...but its not so prevelant anymore. |
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