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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 19:39    Post subject:
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now, copecowboy - ho do you consider we change this if you keep being a retard? Do you know WHY the 3rd world people are livig like trash? Cos' the U.S.A. is killing and robing their people - now - you don't belive me? Check out the news, I'm sure you will find something about some guy named Bush sending hundreds of American troops to death - if now theirs, the people their attacking. Now, I'm not blaming it all on America! EVERYONE who makes a living from war is to stand accused. And people like you trainded to hate other lookthroughs but the ones you've got are the ones to blame for nothing changing. You live in a MELTING POT for fuck sake - how can you hate muslims or whatever? And you guys posting pitcures of muslims with rocket launchers, what do you think U.S troops kill muslims with? Water hoses? War is the bigest buisness there is - its NOT about freedom its NOT about retribution its about MONEY! And while people kill people the elite watch and count every bullet that is shot out of a gun and write it on a tab - for thats how they make a living.
So according to your logic some african cannibals or some saudi muslims live poor just because americans stole their money?
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 20:04    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
So according to your logic some african cannibals or some saudi muslims live poor just because americans stole their money?


read the topic..... thats ritgh.... what a sick world we live in...now u know the truth. why do u think africans still dont have anything? they r more stupid tham us? dont think so. lets see, how can usa(europe too but in smaller scale) be so rich what do they have? oh...they have some oil...but they dont sell it! so where does the money came from? do they have a magic machine that makes gold? i want one too! Very Happy
now lets see the "african cannibals" that you probably saw on discory chanel. that would be a small clan 1000 people i gess, doesnt represent 800milions of people... i guess in europe and in usa have some cannibals too... just watch the news...
now if they arent stupid, they arent cannibals (we agree whit that, right?). why they are poor?
wait i know. they are at civil wars. lets me gess who controls the oil, diamonts, gold.....the "big countrys". why they just send armys to protect oil plant, diamont mines....dunno if some1 know please tell me....
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 20:18    Post subject:
2bad wrote:
read the topic..... thats ritgh.... what a sick world we live in...now u know the truth. why do u think africans still dont have anything?
Well lets see: they are overpopulated, land is dried, too hot to work, evolution is still going on there, voodoo stuff is practiced, christianity came, islam came there, mass rapings practiced, cannibalism practiced. Basically its the same as living in Antarctica and blame a richer country that it took your money and you live in shitty conditions. Blame all the world exept yourself....oh no, poor me, I'm just a boy with a rocket launcher who seeks for revenge.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 20:24    Post subject:
All this talk of cannablism...

Its rarely practiced in Africa. I was watching something on cannabilism in africa on the discovery channel.
It only happens in very remote villages. And they dont kill people to eat them. When someone dies, its a cermony where they ingest the body as it supposed to bring eternal life or something like that.

You guys make it sound like they go around eating each other, all over africa
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 20:28    Post subject:
Hm, who kiddnaped the African people and forced them to slavehood? EVERYONE! Who attacked who for oil? The ones that don't have it. Why do you think there's shitty conditions? Yeah, I'm sure it's hot but dude - it's hot all over India and thats the new silicon valey and the country is sprawling with the best doctors in the world - but their poor right? Hm, who came and colonized then robed and killed the lot of them?
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 20:38    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
All this talk of cannablism...

Its rarely practiced in Africa. I was watching something on cannabilism in africa on the discovery channel.
It only happens in very remote villages. And they dont kill people to eat them. When someone dies, its a cermony where they ingest the body as it supposed to bring eternal life or something like that.

You guys make it sound like they go around eating each other, all over africa
Rolling Eyes


like i said....


Freakness wrote:
Well lets see: they are overpopulated, land is dried, too hot to work, evolution is still going on there, voodoo stuff is practiced, christianity came, islam came there, mass rapings practiced, cannibalism practiced. Basically its the same as living in Antarctica and blame a richer country that it took your money and you live in shitty conditions. Blame all the world exept yourself....oh no, poor me, I'm just a boy with a rocket launcher who seeks for revenge.


dried land?!? saharah maybe... but they have florest, you know, rains in 2 weak more than in a year in usa or europe... u didnt see that in discovery?!? well watch odisea them... voodoo!? lol i think they belive in superman too...at least i saw it in a movie....
just read something before you saing something stupid.... u make me remenber our dear friend bush.....Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 20:46    Post subject:
alas.away wrote:
Hm, who kiddnaped the African people and forced them to slavehood? EVERYONE! Who attacked who for oil? The ones that don't have it. Why do you think there's shitty conditions? Yeah, I'm sure it's hot but dude - it's hot all over India and thats the new silicon valey and the country is sprawling with the best doctors in the world - but their poor right? Hm, who came and colonized then robed and killed the lot of them?

1.America has shitloads of oil itself.
2.India is poor as hell.
3.Slavery was bad, but children of slaves who live in USA now live in better conditions so they won[I'm using mutant rhetorics here]. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 20:50    Post subject:
edit:dam i was editing it... and deleted it...im sorry Sad
it was something like that:

that right!!! u are smatter them i though.... now tell me why do they buy oil?

hum let me guess because they get it almost for free, from country in afrinca?!

or they r just kind and buy the oil, for the africans get better conditions?


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:01    Post subject:
2bad wrote:
that right!!! u are smatter them i though.... now tell me why do they buy oil?hum let me guess because they get it almost for free, from country in afrinca?!
I think they are saving it. Btw USA and west is buying oil from oil rich countries, not stealing. So your argument is invalid.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:07    Post subject:
ups i did the edit before seing your answer....they buy oil from rich countrys!? haha who? iran? venezuela? angola? u must be kidding


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:08    Post subject:
2bad wrote:
Freakness wrote:

1.America has shitloads of oil itself.


that right!!! u are smatter them i though.... now tell me why do they buy oil?

hum let me guess because they get it almost for free, from country in afrinca?!

or they r just kind and buy the oil, for the africans get better conditions?


The USA buys oil because they can only produce 40% of what they need Wink



and guess where they are getting the oil they buy?


http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:11    Post subject:
ok, america has oil too but it's enough?? allow me to remember that usa imports more than 50% of the oil from other countries such as venezuela, saudi arabia and of course Irak!! Africa's problem is the usa and in some measure europe too. Africa is reach in natural resources, diamants, oil, etc.... have of the civil wars that exist right now in africa are a consecuence of the support of usa to the corrupt governements. usa buys oil to this countries, and this countries buy arms to the usa so the war keeps on going in part because of the suport of usa,it's a vicious circle!where innocent people die every single day without a reason! usa should not trade with certain countries that don't recognsie humanitarian rights. But... oh... i forgot... usa had secret prisions around the world where torture was a must!!! what a shame!!! If u stand up for something do it all the way... don't critize torture and terrorism when u do the same...
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:20    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
I think they are saving it. Btw USA and west is buying oil from oil rich countries, not stealing. So your argument is invalid.

saving yes..... but its like i said... they are taking oil from africa at low cost....u cant see? europe does it too( im european) but we can be blind... now must agree whit me... u said they are saving it...one of yours argument is that america is rich because they have oil....

Freakness wrote:
alas.away wrote:
Hm, who kiddnaped the African people and forced them to slavehood? EVERYONE! Who attacked who for oil? The ones that don't have it. Why do you think there's shitty conditions? Yeah, I'm sure it's hot but dude - it's hot all over India and thats the new silicon valey and the country is sprawling with the best doctors in the world - but their poor right? Hm, who came and colonized then robed and killed the lot of them?

1.America has shitloads of oil itself.
2.India is poor as hell.
3.Slavery was bad, but children of slaves who live in USA now live in better conditions so they won[I'm using mutant rhetorics here]. Smile


so if they buy oil how can they be rich?

ty for the grafic we can see there that america only buys from rich countrys....i only see canada..... well mexico isnt that poor... and them UK... that doesnt have oil(correct me if im wrongh).... how can they sell?


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:23    Post subject:
2bad wrote:
ups i did the edit before seing your answer....they buy oil from rich countrys!? haha who? iran? venezuela? angola? u must be kidding
I said >oil rich< countries.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:26    Post subject:
2bad wrote:
so if they buy oil how can they be rich?


It's not to difficult to understand why. America consumes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more resources than they can produce themselves. They aren't 'stealing' oil or getting a deal from anyone -- the countries that sell them oil are just the ones who happen to have some.


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:29    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
2bad wrote:
ups i did the edit before seing your answer....they buy oil from rich countrys!? haha who? iran? venezuela? angola? u must be kidding
I said >oil rich< countries.


of corse they cant "still" it from kenya they dont have....
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:30    Post subject:
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saving yes..... but its like i said... they are taking oil from africa at low cost....u cant see? europe does it too( im european) but we can be blind... now must agree whit me... u said they are saving it...one of yours argument is that america is rich because they have oil....
USA and the whole west buys oil, oil rich countries sell it. If you don't want to sell it at the price then don't sell it. Now if you wanna sell something to your classmate etc you dont bash him because you sold it at lower price than you wanted.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:35    Post subject:
USA does have a fair amount of oil themselves ...



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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:38    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
USA and the whole west buys oil, oil rich countries sell it. If you don't want to sell it at the price then don't sell it. Now if you wanna sell something to your classmate etc you dont bash him because you sold it at lower price than you wanted.[/quote]

Do u really think venezuela, NIGERIA, angola are rich countries??? yes they are reach in natural resources and i'ts governments are rich too but the majority of it's population are poor half of the population of nigeria are poor they don't have water, not to talk about angola!! Ok... you are right the first lady of angola goes to NY only to buyNanolo Blanik but that doesn't represent the reality of angola's population.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:38    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
2bad wrote:
so if they buy oil how can they be rich?


It's not to difficult to understand why. America consumes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more resources than they can produce themselves. They aren't 'stealing' oil or getting a deal from anyone -- the countries that sell them oil are just the ones who happen to have some.


im tried of trying to explain.... i know that. my point its the topic...they explore the weaks
they dont "buy" from other countries.
lest see:
1-country A in africa is at civil war and as oil
2- america|europe offer a army to protec the oil plants
3-america|europe keep like 70% of the oil

u can argue that they are helping to estract oil so that country can develop (the argue used by politcs) the true is that they gain much more than they give.... amirica|europe are not good... they advantage of the needs


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:42    Post subject:
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Do u really think venezuela, NIGERIA, angola are rich countries??? yes they are reach in natural resources and i'ts governments are rich too but the majority of it's population are poor half of the population of nigeria are poor they don't have water, not to talk about angola!! Ok... you are right the first lady of angola goes to NY only to buyNanolo Blanik but that doesn't represent the reality of angola's population.
Where did I say they are rich countries? I said they are oil rich, not rich. I think poverty is related to climate. Shitty climate produce shitty conditions. Its not America's fault, its climate+climate related inherited mentality.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:55    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
Portu wrote:
Do u really think venezuela, NIGERIA, angola are rich countries??? yes they are reach in natural resources and i'ts governments are rich too but the majority of it's population are poor half of the population of nigeria are poor they don't have water, not to talk about angola!! Ok... you are right the first lady of angola goes to NY only to buyNanolo Blanik but that doesn't represent the reality of angola's population.
Where did I say they are rich countries? I said they are oil rich, not rich. I think poverty is related to climate. Shitty climate produce shitty conditions. Its not America's fault, its climate+climate related inherited mentality.


I admit that climate can influence the development of planted fields, but it’s not the most relevant!! If you have a good infrastructure of water distribution that can in the majority of the cases solve the climate condition. So instead of going to Africa and aid the governments to explore it’s oil production why don’t usa helps to build hospitals, water infrastructures supplies??? Because it’s not money worth, because usa wouldn’t have any benefit from it!! Usa/Europe are selfish they don’t teach u to fish they give u the fish so you will always be dependent of them!! And weather has nothing to do with this! You should see the interview that former president Clinton gave to cnn about poverty and climate!
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 21:55    Post subject:
im my last post on this matter......im tried...
its simple as that:
like u see at the grafs or tables there its alot of poor country that have oil and other resources .
im just say usa and europe are the ones who extract it and them they give like 10% to the country. all that just for helping that poor country.
they make themselfs good samaritans.
why they just dont help them make they oil plants!?
yep thats right their because the oil plant its at one country like angola but the plant its owned buy other rich country. so the graf you see that america buying all that oil they dont really buy it.... they just get it....


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 22:22    Post subject:
Portu wrote:
I admit that climate can influence the development of planted fields, but it’s not the most relevant!! If you have a good infrastructure of water distribution that can in the majority of the cases solve the climate condition. So instead of going to Africa and aid the governments to explore it’s oil production why don’t usa helps to build hospitals, water infrastructures supplies??? Because it’s not money worth, because usa wouldn’t have any benefit from it!! Usa/Europe are selfish they don’t teach u to fish they give u the fish so you will always be dependent of them!! And weather has nothing to do with this! You should see the interview that former president Clinton gave to cnn about poverty and climate!
USA helps those countries: build hospitals and give humanitarian help to them [example - indonesian cunami]. But it doesnt have to.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 22:25    Post subject:
It's really not important who has the most oil, what is important is the fact U.S.A. buys oil only from countries which they are at war with , and even that fact is insagnificant.

We are not talking about oil, oil is change compared to the money war makes the U.S.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 22:39    Post subject:
Freakness wrote:
USA helps those countries: build hospitals and give humanitarian help to them [example - indonesian cunami]. But it doesnt have to.


hahah even Ethiopia(and more) one of porest countries aid them!!! what so big about it? as i said u try to say that usa are the good samaratins what isnt true.....just try to understand it. no1 says that they are bad.... the thing is no1 its good, they try to make look good themselfs doing useless stuff for people see.you must be smart and understan whats its good will or what have second intentions.
for example
1-europe give 1milion euros for a earth quake somewhere
2-somalia give 1000 euros
no1 cares about somalia
but somalia gave probably 10% of they gold and euro give 0.01%
who shoud we see better? europe that gave more?


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Sep 2006 22:43    Post subject:
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It's really not important who has the most oil, what is important is the fact U.S.A. buys oil only from countries which they are at war with , and even that fact is insagnificant. We are not talking about oil, oil is change compared to the money war makes the U.S.
Once again you are wrong. 1.Vietnam in an example, they dont have oil. 2.USA LOOSES money when they spend them on weapons/war.
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Vietnam served as a tactical advantage and where communism met capitalism. So if they made sure the communism tendency wasnt going to spring in Vietnam then they would have a solid stance.


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alas.away wrote:
It's really not important who has the most oil, what is important is the fact U.S.A. buys oil only from countries which they are at war with , and even that fact is insagnificant. We are not talking about oil, oil is change compared to the money war makes the U.S.


It makes certian rich people richer (those that get the contracts) but over all it doesn't make the county any richer.

Why do you think their dollar is falling?
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