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 Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:03 Post subject: What Call of Juarez should have been |
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Think of a game like Call Of Juarez but made in the spirit of a TES game. A big world with huge cities and small towns and Indian camps and roads and shortcuts and hills… In it, you play a character you make, give him or her skills and traits and perks and you set him or her into the wild west world.
You can play a peaceful bar proprietor or a crazy gunslinger, and with it your reputation goes up or down – still, outlaws will respect you, people will be afraid of you and the law will be on your tail but if you be a good guy the law’s on your side and the people like you but you can still get hijacked and robbed. You can protect yourself by upgrading skills like “guns” and “rifles” and “quick drawing”, or you can have “mechanics” so you can upgrade your guns or make your own pistol – so it wouldn’t be just guns to get in the world but also gun parts which you can use.
And the clothing would be dynamic – you can put on layers on, not just a complete suit – like, you have underwear by default but on it you can put pants and on the pants the leather riding pants and on it a belt and then a gun belt – and you can put a shirt and a sweater and a coat – there would be a weather system – if it’s cold you need to put on more thicker shirts or more layers – and the stuff you wear has pluses and minuses as well – but not just in the armor way, but the inventory storage way- If you wear just pants with two pockets you only have those two pockets to fill up and your short on capacity – but if you have a shirt and a coat you have more pocket and therefore more cargo capacity.
You can put on a gun belt and you can use the bullet holsters on it but only as much as it holds, if you want more bullet space you put on another gun belt around your chest and have more bullets – of course you can put your bullets in your pockets as well. The best part is – all you put on is visible – the shirt you have under your sweater – all your gun belts and everything you put on is visible – so if you put on a backpack you can see it when you play with the third person camera.
You have horses and carriages – you can buy or steal houses and cottages and run farms and be a farmer if you like, or steal a bunch of stuff and build a bank or just rob them – run a casino and cheat your customers or be honest – have a brothel and get women for them – and of course everything else you aspect from a RPG.
There are two army’s – the blue ones and the grey ones (sorry for the lack of American history knowledge) and they randomly have battles around the map – so you can get into one and loot the corpses or enlist for one side – but the battle goes on randomly and one side can win in the beginning of the game or the battles continue and their territories are generated at the start of a new game – so you can just be a army guy and get to be a colonel if you make it and so the people will respect you more.
You can buy a house in a town and just act normal if you like, get a job and live out peacefully – now job’s would be in millions and all with their promotion scales – but most of them you don’t actually do but just get to the building and click “work” and time skips to the part when you are dome and you go home – some jobs you actually do like cargo transport or bodyguard stuff or casino bouncer or a sheriff –unlike the jobs where you cant do like running a shop or being a bank manager – what you CAN do is get promoted and soon you can just build businesses around and you don’t have to work in them but still get money – but you can also get robbed and your businesses can get burned down to the ground. Or you can just rob a bank, get across the border and spend it.
The thing is you can also just go outside the map if you want and the game asks you what your character does outside the game world – visit a relative, work, or when you come back if you do, and later on when you settle down you can just press retire and you character is done and you can start a new game – but your old characters are still left to be played by the computer so later after you retire a character and play a new one – you can come back to your old character and rob him cos he’s still in the game world but your not playing him.
The best part would be house construction – you enter an editor and make a house like in the sims. And it would not be like oblivion when everything has to be by killing, you play your character like you want to. I want it to be made by obsidian and the guys from black isle, I think they could pull it off.
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Brisk
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:05 Post subject: |
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WTF!!
You think iám gonna read that ???
And isn't there a Call Of Juarez thread ???
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ginge51
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:07 Post subject: |
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1) Use existing topic (idiot-mistake #1)
2) Use para-fucking-graphs (idiot-mistake #2)
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:11 Post subject: |
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well ye gotta respect that he wrote all.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:12 Post subject: |
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sorry guys for idiot mistakes #1 and 2 -and sorry for the post leight, but you have to give me credit for writing the whole of it - i was just so exited to post it so forgot about not doing the mistakes mentioned.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:47 Post subject: |
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nice post. exactly my thoughts...
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:48 Post subject: |
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Drop the flaming. It's not like he did something awful.
Squirrely: Now come on y'all. We can't waste time arguing. There could still be survivors out there. We need to hunt them down, and kill them.
Beary: How about we kill them, and then rape their bodies so we can use their blood as lubricant.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:52 Post subject: |
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Don't post highly intellectual stuff on nforce alot of the people here are not able to grasp it and so they will resort to flaming you instead.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 17:53 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | 1) Use existing topic (idiot-mistake #1)
2) Use para-fucking-graphs (idiot-mistake #2) |
 someone's ego is shining bright today.  looks like you need to loosen up.
*unzips Parallax_’s tight jeans*
Ooooooh look at that  , your Willie is happy to see me! Now, sit back, relax, and before you know it, you won’t be a fucking asshole any more.
alas.away, don't you give a fuck about people like Parallax. You should've posted in the game thread, but so what that you didn't?  Juarez should've been more. Lot more. 
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:02 Post subject: |
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what this thread should have been : 
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:03 Post subject: |
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You know what would be cool? A game like real life where thousand different people would move freely with all their live, you could go to bars get girls, speed on the highway get ticket, have to pay phone bills and go to school, make your food, sleep. Sometime you will have to jack off surfing porno on internet, then go to your friends and drink some beers playing video games (in a video games). Then maybe your girl will get mad and start saying all kind of shit on you so you move away for a week until it's ok. Oh, and of course, you could eat cereals, pee, jump from parachute, answer telephone, take the bus, eat at restaurants, spam people for money, get kciked out of appartment because too noisy, smoke weed, set up lan partys, ride elephants and suffocate in plastic bags.
Of course i'm saying crap. Begin by making a pong game, you will know it's not as easy as you think. Call Of Juarez as been developed with the maximum quality they could put in it with the hardware/time and budget they had. If you want to become a game designers ok, but don't be mad if programmers say no the ¾ of your ideas cause it's simply not possible like we did with our designer this summer.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:03 Post subject: Re: What Call of Juarez should have been |
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| alas.away wrote: | You have horses and carriages – you can buy or steal houses and cottages and run farms and be a farmer if you like, or steal a bunch of stuff and build a bank or just rob them – run a casino and cheat your customers or be honest – have a brothel and get women for them – and of course everything else you aspect from a RPG.
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I like that. But for an MMORPG. Your version of Juarez sounds pretty sleek but not for a single player. MMO it would be fucking sick! I'd play it online.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:22 Post subject: |
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| Dunge wrote: | You know what would be cool? A game like real life where thousand different people would move freely with all their live, you could go to bars get girls, speed on the highway get ticket, have to pay phone bills and go to school, make your food, sleep. Sometime you will have to jack off surfing porno on internet, then go to your friends and drink some beers playing video games (in a video games). Then maybe your girl will get mad and start saying all kind of shit on you so you move away for a week until it's ok. Oh, and of course, you could eat cereals, pee, jump from parachute, answer telephone, take the bus, eat at restaurants, spam people for money, get kciked out of appartment because too noisy, smoke weed, set up lan partys, ride elephants and suffocate in plastic bags.
Of course i'm saying crap. Begin by making a pong game, you will know it's not as easy as you think. Call Of Juarez as been developed with the maximum quality they could put in it with the hardware/time and budget they had. If you want to become a game designers ok, but don't be mad if programmers say no the ¾ of your ideas cause it's simply not possible like we did with our designer this summer. |
You worked with a game designer with no programming experience  |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:26 Post subject: |
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| Ispep wrote: | | Dunge wrote: | You know what would be cool? A game like real life where thousand different people would move freely with all their live, you could go to bars get girls, speed on the highway get ticket, have to pay phone bills and go to school, make your food, sleep. Sometime you will have to jack off surfing porno on internet, then go to your friends and drink some beers playing video games (in a video games). Then maybe your girl will get mad and start saying all kind of shit on you so you move away for a week until it's ok. Oh, and of course, you could eat cereals, pee, jump from parachute, answer telephone, take the bus, eat at restaurants, spam people for money, get kciked out of appartment because too noisy, smoke weed, set up lan partys, ride elephants and suffocate in plastic bags.
Of course i'm saying crap. Begin by making a pong game, you will know it's not as easy as you think. Call Of Juarez as been developed with the maximum quality they could put in it with the hardware/time and budget they had. If you want to become a game designers ok, but don't be mad if programmers say no the ¾ of your ideas cause it's simply not possible like we did with our designer this summer. |
You worked with a game designer with no programming experience |
I would say the contrary, worked with a great team of programmers (who keep real goals) and a crazy game designer like this guy up there, that's why I replyed the thread.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:34 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 18:45 Post subject: |
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go to google, search for oblivion modding forum, click on one of the 10000000 results, copy and paste your post in the ideas/suggestions section. with some luck we could get a wild west mod for oblivion in a couple of months. 
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:33 Post subject: |
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First, Dunge - I have nothing against techland or any other group of devs - without them we wouldn't even have what we have now - but I was playing COJ and just started thinking how great it would be if they did a bit more on it. I think that game would be possible - and i really don't need graphics with a game of such content - we all know gameplay kills graphics all the time (some of us still want good graphics). I would have waited another 2 years if needed, and would have bought it the moment it went out, just like I will with spore and any other game which makes a breakthrough at gameplay.
Thanks for the ones not flaming.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:34 Post subject: |
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Holy shit guys... wtf. Someone actually posts a thought and you guys jumped all over him and then fucked his thread up.
I'm in a good mood today so we'll leave it at that. Stop being jackasses and respond to the original poster with useful thoughts for once.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 19:56 Post subject: |
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you're basically thinking of an Oblivion but with cowboys, horses and six shooters.
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WaldoJ
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And is that bad? I want to play a game like that. Not into oblivion but a wordly rpg game with a gun slinging theme would just pwn! 
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Sep 2006 20:07 Post subject: |
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| mYslead wrote: | | you're basically thinking of an Oblivion but with cowboys, horses and six shooters. |
Oblivion has two major minuses : The game doesn't support diplomatic characters - the world is dead, and what's not is going to be when you get there. No businesses, only those shop investments and that's only if you got high enough on skills. No RPG element's but skillsets and levels. some other stuff...
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