I have no HDD and have no issues with games at all..
Are there any games which require a HDD? If not, will there ever be any games that require it? Was there some kind of official announcement about this?
I don't know if some games copy some often used files to HD. TDU feels like it does, and with Saints Row it feels and sounds like it loads everything from DVD
i work for a pressing plant dude and chances of you getting good sony and mem brands in highstreet stores are slim it just depends. You're better getting solid brands that have their own dye or are "quality" brands that use the same dyes consistantly. Fujis that have the fuji003 code are manufactured by yuden too, just because you dont see a TY001 etc etc there doesnt mean it isnt. Theyre yudens DVD-R media codes. good Fujis for DVD DL are made in taiwan and theyre made by ritek and come from the RITEK-D01-01 batch of dyes
There's currently at least 10 different sony and mem media codes consistantly he wants to know what the best deal is and i say verbs or riteks. But lastly just to make you look a total tit yuden DONT PRODUCE +R DL's and if you say they do u dont have a fucking clue and ur buying knock offs with fake media codes, infact call yudens USA corp office and ask them. So sure buy Sony 8x DL because i garuntee you 150% theyre not yudens.. And Yuden only started manufacturing -R DL's in japan in july this yr. And theyre very hard to get in try ordering some outside of japan...
Go back to 3rd grade and take remedial reading comprehension because I never claimed TY makes DL. And just because media is made in the same pressing plant hardly makes it identical. Manufacturers like Ricoh and Ritek grade out their lines for average quality and sell accordingly to wholesalers- which is why you get marketing lngo like bargain, value, and premium lines; or A+, B+, etc. media. TY on the other hand, protects the integrity of their YUDEN and TYG MIDs by changing up the MIDs for less favorable production lines. There's a reason TY's own "That's" brand media will never use any MID other than TYG** or YUDEN000T** despite other MIDs being made in the same plant facility. Run a few PI/PIF tests on your FUJI003 and get back to me when they approach the levels of an average batch of YUDEN000T02 or TYG02. Bottom line is that the MID is almost always more predictive of the media's quality than the brand label on the spindle.
edit - People can have a discussion without needing to insult each other.. just because this is the internet doesn't mean you have to act like a dick.. Either way, its done now.. lets leave it be and get back on topic.
i work for a pressing plant dude and chances of you getting good sony and mem brands in highstreet stores are slim it just depends. You're better getting solid brands that have their own dye or are "quality" brands that use the same dyes consistantly. Fujis that have the fuji003 code are manufactured by yuden too, just because you dont see a TY001 etc etc there doesnt mean it isnt. Theyre yudens DVD-R media codes. good Fujis for DVD DL are made in taiwan and theyre made by ritek and come from the RITEK-D01-01 batch of dyes
There's currently at least 10 different sony and mem media codes consistantly he wants to know what the best deal is and i say verbs or riteks. But lastly just to make you look a total tit yuden DONT PRODUCE +R DL's and if you say they do u dont have a fucking clue and ur buying knock offs with fake media codes, infact call yudens USA corp office and ask them. So sure buy Sony 8x DL because i garuntee you 150% theyre not yudens.. And Yuden only started manufacturing -R DL's in japan in july this yr. And theyre very hard to get in try ordering some outside of japan...
Go back to 3rd grade and take remedial reading comprehension because I never claimed TY makes DL. And just because media is made in the same pressing plant hardly makes it identical. Manufacturers like Ricoh and Ritek grade out their lines for average quality and sell accordingly to wholesalers- which is why you get marketing lngo like bargain, value, and premium lines; or A+, B+, etc. media. TY on the other hand, protects the integrity of their YUDEN and TYG MIDs by changing up the MIDs for less favorable production lines. There's a reason TY's own "That's" brand media will never use any MID other than TYG** or YUDEN000T** despite other MIDs being made in the same plant facility. Run a few PI/PIF tests on your FUJI003 and get back to me when they approach the levels of an average batch of YUDEN000T02 or TYG02. Bottom line is that the MID is almost always more predictive of the media's quality than the brand label on the spindle.
Total tit indeed.
you told him to buy sony garunteing him theyd be yudens go back and read your post fool. Remedial reading indeed. Riteks fuji line are very good quality as are FUJI003's with very good PI/PIF's...DEPENDING ON THE BURNER YOU USE. There were some bad FUJI003's a while ago made under the datawrite brand that had a bad dye spread. Some of what you say is right there you're just picking the wrong examples. But never the less you told him to buy sony disks and garunteed theyd be yudens and this is so far from the truth, so pls go back and read your original post k.
You gave the guy bad advice and i prolly saved him money from buying bunk sony DL's.
Syn and mcmanic what firmware method did you use, did you use birdie or gary opa
Bought a core X-brick 360 couple of days back and i opened it today, it was a twat to open and it took me 2 hours , then after blood and sweat and violent abuse towards its exterior she revealed her interior .
Anyhow it was worth it cause it had the HITACHI 59DJ fw not the dreaded 0078FK fw, this was dated 09-08-2006 but the drive was april 2006
Syn and mcmanic what firmware method did you use, did you use birdie or gary opa
Bought a core X-brick 360 couple of days back and i opened it today, it was a twat to open and it took me 2 hours , then after blood and sweat and violent abuse towards its exterior she revealed her interior .
Anyhow it was worth it cause it had the HITACHI 59DJ fw not the dreaded 0078FK fw, this was dated 09-08-2006 but the drive was april 2006
And yes its my first post
seeya all
Welcome to the forum! I had a real hard time opening the damn thing too, I blame that on my lack of reading though, it would have gone far smoother had I of done a little more research on how the thing was put together !
I belive I went with the gary OPA firmware *checks other thread*..
The guide above is what I used to flash my firmware, worked great ! Things may have changed since I done mine with the release of the firmware stealth patch thing.. Let us know if you have any problems.
Got the X360USB with the connectity kit today, Tiny thing. They could have done supplying their own molex connectors with it. So im going to have to use mine. Since it looks like one needs the power from the PC and another one goes into the Xbox360.
you told him to buy sony garunteing him theyd be yudens go back and read your post fool. Remedial reading indeed. Riteks fuji line are very good quality as are FUJI003's with very good PI/PIF's...DEPENDING ON THE BURNER YOU USE. There were some bad FUJI003's a while ago made under the datawrite brand that had a bad dye spread. Some of what you say is right there you're just picking the wrong examples. But never the less you told him to buy sony disks and garunteed theyd be yudens and this is so far from the truth, so pls go back and read your original post k.
You gave the guy bad advice and i prolly saved him money from buying bunk sony DL's.
OK, I'll say this a third time for the kid riding the short bus. At no time did I mention or even imply that I was talking about DL. My recommendation was MIJ Sony or Fuji branded 8x. I even used TY's SL MID codes in my second post. How, pray tell, do you get DL from that? The bottom line is that if you buy a spindle that is labeled as I described (not MIT, not 16x, but MIJ 8x), you will undoubtedly be getting either TYG02 or YUDEN000T02. Go back and read the original posts without your DL assumptions and tell me if you still feel justified in behaving like a petulant child.
And to [sYn]: Nowhere in my original post did I use personal insults or attacks. But I'll be damned if I turn the other cheek when some twit uses the phrases "total tit" and "you(sic) don't have a fucking clue" with no provocation. I would ask that you not lump the respondent and instigator together. I don't blame you for not wanting flame wars, but the only way I'm not going to respond to something like that is if a mod says something after dvsone's first personally provocative post- so that I don't have to.
dude why the fuck would he want to buy single layerd sony disks for burning xbox360 games.
this is what you said "The brand is absolutely meaningless. The media ID code is what differentiates media. Just buy 'Made in Japan' Fuji or Sony 8x and you will almost certainly get Taiyo Yuden." not stating anything other than telling him to just buy Sony.
now you go back to remedial reading you twit and learn that if you had said something like "for example if you buy sony 8x single layerd disks...etc etc" get my point?
And to [sYn]: Nowhere in my original post did I use personal insults or attacks. But I'll be damned if I turn the other cheek when some twit uses the phrases "total tit" and "you(sic) don't have a fucking clue" with no provocation. I would ask that you not lump the respondent and instigator together. I don't blame you for not wanting flame wars, but the only way I'm not going to respond to something like that is if a mod says something after dvsone's first personally provocative post- so that I don't have to.
Fair play , I didn't see his attack I thought you started it.. me being blind lol!
Either way, lets not get it too heated you two, don't want to have to stand in between you with my teachers cane..
Ordered some Verbs, Should be here tomorrow so ill see if this shitty burner works with them. If not the laptop one should work. Anyway progress is slow as I got most of the xbox open only to find out it needs a damn Torx 10 (Only have 15 and 20)
4: I have Maximus-Garyopa_XTRM-HITACHI_v2_2_Stealth or Birdy_Hitachi-LG_friendly_Flasher_v2.2_with_Xtreme_v1.3_and_2.0 mediacheck2_FIXED
5: slax boot cd
Right guys do i have all the right ingredients to perform the required surgery on this 360 !!
If so what do i do next :confused:
I know its all been answered but please help me break free from being a paranoid virgin modder and show me the neccesary steps i need to take using the above items correctly to perform this mod quickly and easily in one go.
I ask for this help cause im confused about mode b using the connectivity kit and also do i need to adjust the connectivity kit in anyway??
Also is the eject trick needed using the connectivity kit and if so how or should i just use slax cd.
What chipset is this newlink sata card and will it work with samsung and hitachi drives ?
Should i wear antistatic ankleband or put 1 wire to pc and 360 chassis
dude why the fuck would he want to buy single layerd sony disks for burning xbox360 games.
this is what you said "The brand is absolutely meaningless. The media ID code is what differentiates media. Just buy 'Made in Japan' Fuji or Sony 8x and you will almost certainly get Taiyo Yuden." not stating anything other than telling him to just buy Sony.
now you go back to remedial reading you twit and learn that if you had said something like "for example if you buy sony 8x single layerd disks...etc etc" get my point?
You're still going by your own assumptions. The original poster asked "what media is best for [his] Hitachi-LG". No mention of his purpose specifically being game backups. You responded without mentioning DL. Now it's not like he might one day want to run homebrew apps or mod his console to run software that would fit on a DVD5. Because that would be crazy. No one would actually crack open the case and solder a modchip onto a piece of Microsoft hardware. Get out of here. That would just be insane. I mean, who would want to do that. And even so, it's not like a scene release has ever reencoded video assets to make a game fit on an SL DVD. Yeah, they'll never do that to 360 games. It's not that the 360 is new and they're waiting for more robust modding solutions that isolate any media type checks. They just decided, we're gonna make people burn a DL disc for a 4.38GB iso because we feel like it.
And yeah, the descriptive phrase "'Made in Japan Fuji or Sony 8x" is exactly the same as telling him 'just buy Sony'. Especially since Sony and Fuji are two companies that actually engage in fairly responsible marketing and label their DL discs with the full CAV range. Meaning that a total noob would walk into a store and see their discs labeled as 2.4x-8x DVD+-R DL, not 8x.
For the last time- you assumed that the discussion was solely about DL, when there are in fact, quite a few reasons why the OP would want to discuss SL burning solutions. You compounded the error by not specifically mentioning DL in your first post if that's what you wanted to limit your analysis to. I called you on it, you threw a hissy fit because someone invaded your self-proclaimed fiefdom of blank media production, and here we are. You need to just step up and admit that you made a simple mistake instead of reversing yourself 3 or 4 times just to avoid admitting that you are fallible. I'll admit my own mistake straight away. I screwed up by trying to enter into a debate with someone too insecure to acknowledge a simple and rather minor mistake. Fortunately, I can rectify that mistake by not posting in this thread again.
@[sYn]: no cane necessary. And thanks for making the distinction- a lot of mods can't or won't and just ban everyone in sight.
All done. Using the "easy" connectivity kit with this PC made it about 50 times harder to install because of my crappy PC design. The kit was hanging by a thread with the power cable, Suprised I never bricked it.
Anyway, Is it safe to update from a copyed disk? since one of the games is asking me to update. Or could I get the update else where?
Thanks Sin, Thats sorted. But TD:U Sucks, SHUT UP HINT PERSON! And also another problem sorted with the GRAW it works perfect. Changed it from PAL-50 to PAL-60. So theres a tip for all you SDTV owners out there
dude why the fuck would he want to buy single layerd sony disks for burning xbox360 games.
this is what you said "The brand is absolutely meaningless. The media ID code is what differentiates media. Just buy 'Made in Japan' Fuji or Sony 8x and you will almost certainly get Taiyo Yuden." not stating anything other than telling him to just buy Sony.
now you go back to remedial reading you twit and learn that if you had said something like "for example if you buy sony 8x single layerd disks...etc etc" get my point?
You're still going by your own assumptions. The original poster asked "what media is best for [his] Hitachi-LG". No mention of his purpose specifically being game backups. You responded without mentioning DL. Now it's not like he might one day want to run homebrew apps or mod his console to run software that would fit on a DVD5. Because that would be crazy. No one would actually crack open the case and solder a modchip onto a piece of Microsoft hardware. Get out of here. That would just be insane. I mean, who would want to do that. And even so, it's not like a scene release has ever reencoded video assets to make a game fit on an SL DVD. Yeah, they'll never do that to 360 games. It's not that the 360 is new and they're waiting for more robust modding solutions that isolate any media type checks. They just decided, we're gonna make people burn a DL disc for a 4.38GB iso because we feel like it.
And yeah, the descriptive phrase "'Made in Japan Fuji or Sony 8x" is exactly the same as telling him 'just buy Sony'. Especially since Sony and Fuji are two companies that actually engage in fairly responsible marketing and label their DL discs with the full CAV range. Meaning that a total noob would walk into a store and see their discs labeled as 2.4x-8x DVD+-R DL, not 8x.
For the last time- you assumed that the discussion was solely about DL, when there are in fact, quite a few reasons why the OP would want to discuss SL burning solutions. You compounded the error by not specifically mentioning DL in your first post if that's what you wanted to limit your analysis to. I called you on it, you threw a hissy fit because someone invaded your self-proclaimed fiefdom of blank media production, and here we are. You need to just step up and admit that you made a simple mistake instead of reversing yourself 3 or 4 times just to avoid admitting that you are fallible. I'll admit my own mistake straight away. I screwed up by trying to enter into a debate with someone too insecure to acknowledge a simple and rather minor mistake. Fortunately, I can rectify that mistake by not posting in this thread again.
@[sYn]: no cane necessary. And thanks for making the distinction- a lot of mods can't or won't and just ban everyone in sight.
OMG, This is a X360 Thread, talking about modded X360s. ITs very obvious that DL was implyied. This argument is stupid and what you should have done instead of writing these long winded replys was to just admit you made a mistake. FFS be a man about it.
Are there any games which require a HDD? If not, will there ever be any games that require it? Was there some kind of official announcement about this?
get a HDD xbox360 is shit w/o one unless you plan on buying tons of memory cards for the dl content etc. Although the HDD is not a requirement some games do take advantage of it if its detectd by chaching files to the HDD
I won't download anything. I'm not planning to ever use Xbox Live anyway.
Is it possible that the HDD will be a requirement for future games? Did MS say something about this yet?
maybe it'll happen eventually whendevelopers reach limits to what they can do without using it, but officially it isnt required. I would expect games eventually to have a hard drive required label on them. But seriously no xbox live? you're missing out on the best part of the system.
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! Things may have changed since I done mine with the release of the firmware stealth patch thing.. Let us know if you have any problems.
You just need the right tools 
The kit was hanging by a thread with the power cable, Suprised I never bricked it. 
