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csebal




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 12:55    Post subject:
As some of you are seemingly unfamiliar with the TA concept of building, let me share some tips.

Most important: Units can assits eachother in building. Or assist buildings in upgrading etc.
Basically a build action is nothing more than chanelling mass and energy into the newly built item, until it has all the required mass and energy. Each builder has a rate at which it can channel these resources. If you order a unit to assist, it will also start chanelling resources. The more units you assign to assist in building, the faster it will be done.

The items with long build times were supposed to be built with lots of builders at once.

Keep in mind, that every unit assisting in building increases the mass and energy drain, so take care you do not suck your storages dry. If it is energy you need, it may be a nice idea, to send a bunch of engineers into a forest and tell them to patrol there. If the energy storage is not full (which it likely if you have energy shortage) they'll start to harvest the trees in teh forest for energy.

So even the biggest unit or buildings can be built in a few minutes if you have the resources to build it with like 20 L3 engineers.
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 16:34    Post subject:
Can anyone point me to a link where I can download the 2.0 beta client not the 2.7? Or how i can downgrade the 2.7 release to the 2.0 one?

My friend has Radeon 9250, he can't run the game he gets GAL exception error, but that's an error that did not occure in 2.0. So if anyone can help me it would be highly appreciated.


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acantoni
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 16:36    Post subject:
Pizda2 read all the topics, it's a 'common bug' especially if you set the screen res to windowed

Just delete your game configs and it will work (it's under documents and settings)
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 16:41    Post subject:
Yeah I told him to delete the game configs but he says there is nothing in documents and settings of Supreme Commander. Confused

What exactly is he looking for and what exactly should he do?


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Baleur




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 16:43    Post subject:
Repeat; Guys what are those prefs you all talk about and delete left and right? A custom file to store your graphics settings in? I want one too Crying or Very sad


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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 16:47    Post subject:
Epsilon comon fix this problem Razz


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$n@ke




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 16:57    Post subject:
Put /window 1024 768 in the SupCom command line. !!!(after the quote's)!!!

Like this:

"C:\Program Files\THQ\Gas Powered Games\Beta\Supreme Commander\bin\SupremeCommander.exe" /window 1024 768

That sould do the trick.
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2stepsteve




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Location: Essex, England
PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 17:21    Post subject:
Ive found out these slow downs some of us are having are due to soundcard issues. If you are having slow down issues update your soundcard drivers. If no joy still try disabling the sound, shitty with no sound but will be more playable.

Disable sound using /nosound at the end of the shortcut to the exe
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thudo




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 18:21    Post subject:
Man the game is soo slow.. running @ 1600x1200 no shadows no AA.. just crawls badly. I'll check out the sound (mine is onboard with the P5W DH and have 0 problems with other games). Since this is beta its understandable this can happen.

As for the game.. unsure yet.. The teasers looked 10,000x better and everything feels "plasticy" and "rubbery" (especially when building units - that silver blob). If I can get the framerates up then I can fully appreciate.


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 18:43    Post subject:
I found that after I installed the patch, although it looked alot better the performance was also alot worse. Sad


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Hojew




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 18:49    Post subject:
Another thing I read was that the old .lua file you replace should be removed from its original directory. It doesn't make much sense to me, but people said the old file is still being accessed, even when renamed for the purpose of backing it up (I think backing it up is probably a good idea for any future patches).

Other than that, is anyone having issues with the terrain, or more specifically, resource nodes? When zoomed out fairly far, I can see areas on the ground where you're suppose to place metal extractors. However, when I zoom in close, I see nothing on the ground that suggests there is a metal deposit there.
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$n@ke




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 18:55    Post subject:
The game works just as good with patch 2.7 as i did with 2.0 for me.
I have it on 1280x1024, all on high except shadows, and AA is on 2x.

Only thing is that the game sometimes jumps to desktop, and if i go to the game again the pc freeze's.

Other than that the game's awesome.
Although not so crisp looking as in the awesome trailer. (but its still beta sowho knows) Wink
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acantoni
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 19:05    Post subject:
I'm quite happy with the game except the rubbis performance

I tried with nosound and it's a little better .. but not much !

My system is Amd 3500+ , 1gb ram , 7800 GT 256 mb and should be able to run the game well all on maxed in 1280*1024

Instead after 10-15 minutes of play run like shit even on 1024*768 with everything on low or disabled (3-4 fps)
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 19:07    Post subject:
$n@ke wrote:
Put /window 1024 768 in the SupCom command line. !!!(after the quote's)!!!

Like this:

"C:\Program Files\THQ\Gas Powered Games\Beta\Supreme Commander\bin\SupremeCommander.exe" /window 1024 768

That sould do the trick.


It doesn't do the trick, he gets an error saying he needs pixelshader 2.0 vertex. He has a 8.1 card.

I blame Epsilon for this.

lol


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Kamikaze666




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 19:31    Post subject:
acantoni wrote:
I'm quite happy with the game except the rubbis performance

I tried with nosound and it's a little better .. but not much !

My system is Amd 3500+ , 1gb ram , 7800 GT 256 mb and should be able to run the game well all on maxed in 1280*1024

Instead after 10-15 minutes of play run like shit even on 1024*768 with everything on low or disabled (3-4 fps)


is this with AI or also with other players?


Quote:
PC awesome button = Uninstall!
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 19:32    Post subject:
Can anyone tell me where the gamepref is? I need to find where I can edit the graphical settings of the game without starting it up. I just need that file It';s name and where it is I can send it to my friend as well, I can lower the settings on my game and send him that file.


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Dunge




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 20:19    Post subject:
Whatever I try the crack don't work, can only go play online (read can't).

Where is that pref file I should delete? It's NOT in my documents.

EDIT: Found a pref.lua file IN the "cracked" lua.scd file (open with winzip) but tried to delete it and still don't work.
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$n@ke




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 20:45    Post subject:
Finally a game that does the nuke make up for its name.
Damm what a nice explosion, make's Generals nuke look like a firecracker.

Total uberness is nuke'ing the ememy's commander. 2 in 1 explosion.

But the ai is damm hard, even at easy. If you want fun, play a skirmish game with an easy ai, and put him on the same team as you. That guy builds like a maniac, f*cking fast.

Ps. You guys do know you can rotate the camera when holding ALT and click and hold the middle mouse button. Right? Wink
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csebal




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 21:00    Post subject:
OMG guys.. you do not have to delete anything from the scd files.

The preferences are stored in the profile directory for the windows user.

That is something like C:\Documents and Settings\JohnDoe\Local Settings\Application Data\GasPowered\...

Substitute JohnDoe for your windows profile name. Keep in mind, that Both Local Settings and Application Data folders are marked as hidden (maybe even system), so you do not see them unless you have the show hidden files option turned on in whatever file manager you use.

Simply delete the GasPowered folder, and the game will create it again next time you run the game, with the initial - hopefully correct - settings.
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Dunge




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 22:06    Post subject:
thx, found the file but still can't select skirmish...
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Spiritus_real




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 23:02    Post subject: Re: ....
$n@ke wrote:
Spiritus_real wrote:
Can someone please upload the original lua file from beta 20 someplace, cause i cant upload because i did apply the 20 beta crack before updating Smile

please Very Happy


http://www.filefactory.com/file/5c2c6a/

Someone wants to upload the 2.7 patch?


Thx you my man Smile
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Marconobi




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 23:31    Post subject: BETA Download Links
Supreme Commander *BETA* v2.7 Download Links

http://downloads.gwn.com/downloads/sponsor.php/id/7092/mirror/26
Courtesy of: Gameworld Network

http://downloads.gwn.com/downloads/sponsor.php/id/7092/mirror/24
Courtesy of: Gameworld Network

http://downloads.gwn.com/downloads/sponsor.php/id/7092/mirror/27
Courtesy of: PlanetMirror

http://downloads.gwn.com/downloads/sponsor.php/id/7092/mirror/25
Courtesy of: Nuclearfallout

http://downloads.gwn.com/downloads/sponsor.php/id/7092/mirror/28
Courtesy of: Gameworld Network


File Information
Developer: Gas Powered Games
Publisher: THQ
Version: 2.7
Date added: October 23, 2006
File size: 1098 MB
Approx. download time: 93.7 minutes at 2 Mbit
Downloads: 4,461
License: N/A
System requirements: Windows XP


Have Fun Smile


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ThunderStrike




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 00:36    Post subject:
having a lot of desync issues in hamachi lately.. seems to happen more with the beta 2.7
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 03:03    Post subject:
csebal wrote:
OMG guys.. you do not have to delete anything from the scd files.

The preferences are stored in the profile directory for the windows user.

That is something like C:\Documents and Settings\JohnDoe\Local Settings\Application Data\GasPowered\...

Substitute JohnDoe for your windows profile name. Keep in mind, that Both Local Settings and Application Data folders are marked as hidden (maybe even system), so you do not see them unless you have the show hidden files option turned on in whatever file manager you use.

Simply delete the GasPowered folder, and the game will create it again next time you run the game, with the initial - hopefully correct - settings.


I would have loved for that to be true, unfortunatly it isnt.

C:\Documents and Settings\Baleur\Lokala inställningar\Application Data\GasPowered\SupremeCommander\replays

Thats the ONLY folder there, a completely empty folder structure, and there isnt any other folders or any other files being created regardless how often i start the game or if i create multiple profiles ingame and change or leave their settings at default.
Even tried launching the game via the GPGnet client and then changing the settings once a game had started then leaving.

Thats why most of us complain, we arent stupid. There just is No file what so ever containing our preferences, not even if alt-tabbing with the game still up and running!
(yes, that includes hidden files, doh)

You can always just .rar up YOUR profile settings file and put it on rapidshare or something, instead of telling us how to make it appear when it doesnt work Wink


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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 06:12    Post subject:
No Baleur 'you' are mistaken, that is the right path, if you do not see it there you must have done something you shouldn't have.
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Marconobi




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 06:48    Post subject:
Baleur wrote:
csebal wrote:
OMG guys.. you do not have to delete anything from the scd files.

The preferences are stored in the profile directory for the windows user.

That is something like C:\Documents and Settings\JohnDoe\Local Settings\Application Data\GasPowered\...

Substitute JohnDoe for your windows profile name. Keep in mind, that Both Local Settings and Application Data folders are marked as hidden (maybe even system), so you do not see them unless you have the show hidden files option turned on in whatever file manager you use.

Simply delete the GasPowered folder, and the game will create it again next time you run the game, with the initial - hopefully correct - settings.


I would have loved for that to be true, unfortunatly it isnt.

C:\Documents and Settings\Baleur\Lokala inställningar\Application Data\GasPowered\SupremeCommander\replays

Thats the ONLY folder there, a completely empty folder structure, and there isnt any other folders or any other files being created regardless how often i start the game or if i create multiple profiles ingame and change or leave their settings at default.
Even tried launching the game via the GPGnet client and then changing the settings once a game had started then leaving.

Thats why most of us complain, we arent stupid. There just is No file what so ever containing our preferences, not even if alt-tabbing with the game still up and running!
(yes, that includes hidden files, doh)

You can always just .rar up YOUR profile settings file and put it on rapidshare or something, instead of telling us how to make it appear when it doesnt work Wink



Just run the .exe file from explorer instead of using the shortcut Wink
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Baleur




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 07:02    Post subject:
lol what difference does it make if i run it from a shortcut or click on the .exe? A shortcut just points torwards the .exe and executes the .exe Wink
But YEP tired it. Im just not getting any config files what so ever, maby because my "Local Settings" folder is actually called "Lokala Inställningar", maby the game cant handle the letter "ä"?

Ill try to reinstall but i doubt it will change, its been that way in beta 20 too.
Did you guys install it to its default location btw? Cuz i didnt.
Would appreciate if someone could name what the folder is supposed to be called and like upload their config file to rapidshare so i can transplant it to my comp ^^


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Malveous




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 07:36    Post subject:
http://www.d7hosting.com/Game.prefs

Right Click, Save As...


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Baleur




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 08:19    Post subject:
Nothing appears ingame, no profile no nothing. And when exiting the Game.prefs file is now called Game.prefs.bad
lol, odd indeed, meh i dont care, only takes 2 sec to change res ingame anyway bleh. at least online play works


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PDSOUNDS




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Oct 2006 08:33    Post subject:
I will ask this again, how can I change the Screen Refresh Rate from 60 to 75+???

My eyes are bleeding (part 2)
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