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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 17:47    Post subject:
Well, did this patch do any good?


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 17:51    Post subject:
Vladi wrote:
great only need crack for this update Razz


Did you check if the cracked exe and dll are replaced by the new patch?
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 17:57    Post subject:
yeah they are, razor crack doesn't work...

now I need to download STON3D release again damn it why did I delete it?
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 18:05    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
yeah they are, razor crack doesn't work...

now I need to download STON3D release again damn it why did I delete it?


oops,lol.luckily i have original, hopefully it will finally have paid off waiting if it fixes the save bug(which that workaround didnt fix) and some AI is improved.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 18:09    Post subject:
and performance improvment Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 18:15    Post subject:
can anyone give us a quick review of the patch, is it indeed better performance and AI?
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 18:30    Post subject:
Read that the dreadful stun-locking bug is fixed...if its true, im gonna cry! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 18:33    Post subject:
From Razor gothic III Nfo:

"P.S.
Remember it's Jowood, so don't expect a bug-free game. (Also remeber it's
Razor1911, so DO expect a thoroughly cracked game! Smile
We'll do a cracked update once we feel the game has matured enough to make
it worthwhile."

So hopefully they will get to work on an updated crack soon Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 18:50    Post subject:
Post on official forums...
"I love the new crossbow and armor is definatly working, there was a huge difference taking hits naked compared to wearing paladin armor. Fully decked out in in paladingear (armor, helm, shield) a sabretooth bit for like 10ish damage. When naked the hits did way more damage, like 70-100. Exact numbers was hard to get with Regenerate. Still couldn't learn Brew Poison.

Performancewise it was more or less the same for me, it ran pretty well last version too. However I noticed a huge difference when casting spells for the first time, icewave used to lock my computer for a few secs when I casted it for the first time after starting the game, now those seconds seem reduced to a slight hickup."
Sounds interesting. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 18:56    Post subject:
stun lock is fixed. i reloaded the kill aggressive boars save. still got my ass handed to me when i attacked them full on with crap sword at low lever but i was able to get a few hits in too, unlike stun-lock crap. then i tried leading them to the orcs at campfire. the orcs killed them with only taking a bit of damage.

=sorted!oh and load times(when changing areas) were maybe a second before, now Id say it takes less than half a second so I feel its improved. hopefully lower end folks will see a shortening of this time too. Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 19:03    Post subject:
pumbertot1 wrote:
stun lock is fixed. i reloaded the kill aggressive boars save. still got my ass handed to me when i attacked them full on with crap sword at low lever but i was able to get a few hits in too, unlike stun-lock crap. then i tried leading them to the orcs at campfire. the orcs killed them with only taking a bit of damage.

=sorted!oh and load times(when changing areas) were maybe a second before, now Id say it takes less than half a second so I feel its improved. hopefully lower end folks will see a shortening of this time too. Wink

Sweet! Very Happy
And how bout the AI, any improvements?

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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 19:50    Post subject:
Lol yeah, and yeah I'm full of crap don't say it
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 20:18    Post subject:
So how do we get the new patched version working without a crack for it?


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 20:24    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
can anyone give us a quick review of the patch, is it indeed better performance and AI?

- Combat AI for several monsters improved/simplified (e.g. boar)

FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 20:27    Post subject:
OMG, they actually added a protection that opens VirtualCD, and unmounts Gothic 3 from the virtual drive Smile funny Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 20:30    Post subject:
Okay I just managed to run it(the patched version). You need to use the old way, that is, the patched image (STON3D release). Mount it in VCD8(same procedure as always), but when you mount close VCD(go ctrl-alt-delete and end all VCD tasks, should be like 3-4 of them). Now go to your VCD folder and move it somewhere else. If it stays at the location pointed by the registry Gothic will unmount the image automatically. If you move it before mounting it refuses to run.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 20:31    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
OMG, they actually added a protection that opens VirtualCD, and unmounts Gothic 3 from the virtual drive Smile funny Very Happy


works fine here Very Happy CLONE FTW !!!!!!


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 21:12    Post subject:
http://gamershell.com/news/33887.html
a nwe patch is out but i don't tried it yet i hope it will work
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 21:19    Post subject:
zerstorer wrote:
http://gamershell.com/news/33887.html
a nwe patch is out but i don't tried it yet i hope it will work


Yeah, thats the one im talking about.

Well im not going to download STON3D release just to get this thing working with the 2nd patch so i'll wait for the new crack.


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 21:24    Post subject: wow
cool hope razor get at it fast
cant wait to finally be ABLE to play it Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 22:09    Post subject:
Check this out guys:
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Aspyr Media confirmed today that its highly anticipated PC RPG Gothic 3 will ship on November 13 in North America, ensuring that it lands on store shelves by November 20.

“Obviously, Gothic 3 is an important title for Aspyr, but as a gamer I can’t wait for the holiday's best PC RPG to land in stores next month,” said Michael Rogers, President and CEO of Aspyr Media. “I can already picture folks across America grabbing a turkey leg, rolling up the sleeves of their snowflake sweaters and gathering the ones they love around the PC hearth to stomp orcs - as a family. After all, that's really what the holidays are all about."

Shouldn't someone blow the bubble he's in? Razz He actually thinks he has a great game to put in stores...


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 22:42    Post subject:
well it would be pretty bad if the publisher itself was saying that the game is bugged Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 22:45    Post subject:
It is a great game..


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 23:19    Post subject:
Baleur wrote:
It is a great game..


So sayeth Baleur the great Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Oct 2006 23:29    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
well it would be pretty bad if the publisher itself was saying that the game is bugged Very Happy

Yeah... I'm sure he doesn't even know what the terms "RPG" and "Orcs" are. Just well learnt PR bullshit.


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Oct 2006 00:24    Post subject:
Buddymander wrote:
Baleur wrote:
It is a great game..


So sayeth Baleur the great Rolling Eyes

Yep. Embarassed


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Oct 2006 02:03    Post subject:
Ye true Inatan25. Game is good the guy is right.

O no, you are a disillussioned person with a crappy PC who cant play it so lets bash it! hahaha. sad sad person. Very Happy -> finger.

The game has its flaws but if you played al gothic in the series you get captured again by the old feeling which includes even some lame bugs, but at least its not lamely consolized as oblivion.

And oblivion is a nice RPG too! (i played it!) woohoo if you have the great M$ XBOX360 IT ROXX BOXXS YES ELITE!! great innovation and super storywise! It even has a full 10 hour during main story!! you heard that people 10 FULLLL hours! This never happened before! Buy it and if you like it, buy the plugins on xboxlive ! it works even better with the plugins! no more free downloading of morrowind lame plugins but paid and thoroughly TESTED (and offcourse great quality) super plugins! order now at amazon.

O and Gothic sucks ass, it didnt even publish on XBOX (M$) first LAME GERMANS! if you would have done that = no bugs, no shit! more money and alot of great reviews!
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Oct 2006 02:26    Post subject:
Yeah, me and most of the guys here, we all have shit systems... I'm gonna post somthing I wrote about idiot fanboys like yourself:
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The most offenssive thing you can say to a moronic fanboy about a bad game engine is it's not optimized. Game engines are like a taboo for them. "It's your crappy pc", "You have a shit computer", "Don't blame the developer for the crappy pc you have" are common things they'll say blindly. So what if the game looks like a crappy 2003 game (on max)? It's my PC's fault for not running it, even if it runs much better looking and much more demanding games quite well! It's my PC's fault for idiot developers who have no idea how to optimize code, who release a product in beta stage (and by the screens shots I've seen on a few forums, one might even say it's in alpha) because they (or the publisher, but that is irrelevant) set a silly dead-line without thinking ahead... It's all my crappy PC's fault, right?!

That's about graphics. About Gothic's AI, I'm not gonna even bother.


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Oct 2006 02:53    Post subject:
There are vary few games i would consider great, gothic 3 is not one of them, it is a good game no doubt but as far as greatness comes, its a little short, but im having fun playing it.

Oblivion was a good game, but i consider it far from great, the only thing that truly came to the hight of greatness was the dark brotherhood quests, everything else besides that was a let down.


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Oct 2006 03:08    Post subject:
This deserves a reaction in this one point of view discussion;

The most defensive thing someone can say who isnt a fanboy is to blame a fanboy that the game works fine on his system. That the Game engine works for them is lame and makes the entire game lame. They usually say "You are a fanboy only cos you liked the other games" "i blame the developer if it doesnt work". So what if the game doesnt run on your system, just say its the incompetence of the developer that you failed to upgrade. Its all the developers fault when they designed a game for a 2006 top system and set the bar high to raise the industries standard which even includes some stupid idiotic bugs because of the scale of the project. Its the developers fault that they have to release a beta game even when the PUBLISHER decides in this hostile corperate environment to release it early to make sure the stockholders are happy. Yes, dont risk anything and release a game with a 100 % success rate even if it has only 5 hours of game play. It doesnt give an edge to new games, but what the heck at least you played safe and everyone is happy. It doesnt matter that there are no good new innovative games since 2002 at least you can play it even if its the same boring stuff as ever!

The point is that people whine, and yes, jowood is a crappy publisher who releases buggy games and gothic has been released as a beta, but blaming the developers that the game isnt up to standards because YOU cant play it, is just lame. Its the current state of the game industry which makes this happen. If noone supports dev houses who try to change things even when it takes overriding deadlines we will be stuck with shit lame proven game concepts forever. Just think about that. And if you manage to look through it you find out Gothic 3 isnt that bad at all.

So before you judge think abit further and if you dont i am not even going to bother to reply again.
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