[NDS] [PSP] newbie questions & purchasing advice
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 14:34    Post subject: [NDS] [PSP] newbie questions & purchasing advice
hello everybody

i've been lurking on here the past two weeks as i've been contemplating buying a nds or a psp. my rents are going to canada and i am in a dilemma as to which to get. i'm somewhat afraid of getting a system thats going to die out or something thats not going to suit me. i'm 22 so obviously no kids games.

basically i'm asking if a new store bought psp will be able to run isos and such easily. and as people who have the systems, what has a better selection of games?

basically, what would you recommend?
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deelix
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 15:40    Post subject:
PSP all the way Wink


If you can get FW 1.5 - its teh win Wink
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ThOMaZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 16:19    Post subject:
i'm with deelix on this one. tried a couple of DS games and none of them really gave me the feeling i needed. New Super Mario Bros. bored me after 2 levels, and the same goes with mario kart. i don't even care for games like animal crossing or nintendogs.

depends on what you want. if you want metal gear, gta, go with the psp

if you like mario in football, golf, karting, fighting, basketball or anything else. go for the DS.

(btw: i'm also 22)


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Supino




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 16:41    Post subject:
hmmm... I'm not sure I agree with deelix and ThOMa2 here.
This is not an easy choice.

Let me give you a + / - list, I own both systems:

*PSP*
+ No extra cost to run homebrew/iso other than a lager Pro DUO mem card.
+ The PSP screen and graphics are awesome.
+ There are many good games out for PSP now.
- the controlls doesn't feel comfortably (especially the shoulderbuttons) for big hands.
- You need to read up on a lot of stuff before downgrading, installing DevHook and so on.
- It's expensive.
- Battery lasts about 2-3 hours ingame.
- games take a lot of space

*NDS*
+ Long battery life.
+ Touchscreen!
+ Games are small in size
+ Good controlls
+ MANY good games (Mostly RPGs, puzzles and platforms)
+ Cheaper than the PSP
- The graphics ain't that good
- You need to buy extra stuff to run homebrew/isos
- Many games are aimed for a ynger group.
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 17:16    Post subject:
yeah supino the real draw here is that the nds has a lot of games aimed at a younger crowd and i can only play zelda and mario for so long until i get bored.

thanks for the input guys.
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Steve-O 2004




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 18:46    Post subject:
deelix wrote:

If you can get FW 1.5 - its teh win Wink


ppppfffffftttt 1.5 is way old now Wink... You want Dark Alex's 2.71 SE B3 Firmware Very Happy (Its 2.71 but with the homebrew capabilities of 1.5 built in and a nice ISO launcher Smile )


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'...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas.'
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bringiton




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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Nov 2006 21:13    Post subject:
I would also advise you to go for the PSP.
At first I thought it was a mistake buying one, but now I just watch all my series on it while I am underway, that leaves me so much more time at home.
And there is loads of games nowadays, nearly too much IMO.
But I have to agree that it feels quite uncomfortable if you have big hands, especially the analog stick can hurt your thumb after a while...
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Nov 2006 21:33    Post subject:
thanks for the input guys, looks like its a psp for me
i'll make sure to get a 4gb memory stick too Wink
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Nov 2006 06:21    Post subject:
Your loss. No Yoshi's Island 2, new super mario brothers, or any number of near perfect scoring games for you. The only game for the PSP that I actually enjoy playing, and is good grab and go game is that game with that blob thing you tilt around the world.
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huge99




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Nov 2006 13:23    Post subject:
you mean locoroco
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Supino




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Nov 2006 18:46    Post subject:
Mchart - me too man Smile LocoRoco and Lumines.

but I'm haveing a blast with my DS now.. great stuff
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TheBugulous




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Nov 2006 23:05    Post subject:
If you like Castlevania series then the new one for DS is out in December - "Portrait of Ruin" - looks *f-a-n-t-a-s-t-i-c* - also Dawn of Sorrow is great - screens and videos at - http://uk.gamespot.com/ds/action/castlevaniaportraitofruin/media.html


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syphylis




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Nov 2006 09:51    Post subject:
nah i'm not a big fan of castlevania at all. anyways i got a hold of a ds and it only confirmed my choice, it reminded me too much of the gb advance, which is eons old.

in any case, i've made my mind, thanks for the input
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 08:23    Post subject:
hey dudes, so my rents got me a psp, but a new one. so i'll probably have to wait until an exploit comes out for the new firmware huh

in the meantime, this is a north american psp, can i play european bought games on it? what i mean is are they region locked or something?
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 10:06    Post subject:
No region locks on games, only on movies.. What firmware version do you have? You can check in the settings menu under system settings?
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 10:52    Post subject:
thanks for clearing that up, i thought i was asking the dumbest question ever

i havent got the psp yet, they called from new york and said they bought it already, i'll check out the firmware when they come home on friday
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Evil Undead Dolphin
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 18:17    Post subject:
I was in same dilema...I like GTA , but on the other hand I love Castlevania and GBA games , so I just spend a shitload of money and bought PSP 1.50 fw. + 2 gb Sandisk card and NDS + M3 SD + 2 gb SD card..and I am broke now till next paycheck..
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Evil Undead Dolphin
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 18:19    Post subject:
And keep in mind that PSP have a great emulators for GBA , SNES , C64..put it as another "+" in thread above.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 18:27    Post subject:
I just deleted all of my games and put about 2000 roms on my PSP Very Happy.. mmmm classic heaven Very Happy
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Nov 2006 12:09    Post subject:
alright guys, i'm holding the psp in my hands now (so sexy)
its got FW 2.60
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Nov 2006 12:17    Post subject:
ah crap i just looked, i have a TA-082
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chiv




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Nov 2006 12:39    Post subject:
well i spose you could always buy your games...






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syphylis




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Nov 2006 12:49    Post subject:
theres nothing i can do?
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Nov 2006 13:32    Post subject:
As far as downgrading or install custom firmwares, your boned. But there are ways to run homebrew and other goodies on the firmware you are on, so don't despair too much Wink.. You will need to do some research on getting homebrew and devhook to work on 2.71 firmware (which is the firmware of choice for those who can't downgrade, I believe..)..

http://www.dark-alex.org/ - has the loaders and such, none of which have all of the files required..

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=33695
maxconsole wrote:

Q: My PSP is a TA-082 with the 2.71 (or lower) firmware, can I run homebrew?
A: Yes, 2.5-2.6 can use eloader via the GTA gamesave exploit or via the TIFF exploit. 2.71 can run 2.x homebrew via HEN C or eloader (2.71 version). (add link)

Q: My PSP is a TA-082 with the 2.71 (or lower) firmware, can I run backup games (ISO)?
A: Yes, if you are at the 2.71 firmware (if not upgrade to 2.71) then you can use a modified version of DevHook made by Dark_AleX that works with 2.71.


- This should show you what to do, you will need to upgrade to 2.71 first though.

DO NOT BLAME ME IF IT FUCKS UP! RESEARCH ALL OF THE INFORMATION ABOVE YOURSELF TO BE SURE BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING!!!!
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Nov 2006 14:05    Post subject:
hmmm so i upgrade to 2.71 then run the "Homebrew Enabler version for Devhook" off dark alex's site? all i really want is to be able to play backups

oh and thanks dude
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Nov 2006 12:19    Post subject:
alright updated to 2.71, and got the files off dark alex's site
now to install them...
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Nov 2006 13:41    Post subject:
YES!

awesome dudes, i got it to work (after many tries)

thanks a lot guys

now to dl some games...
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syphylis




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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Nov 2006 15:34    Post subject:
okay so i got some homebrew working (quake2) and i'm downloading wipeout and locoroco
when i get them i just put them in the game folder and run them? or do i need to fiddle with devhook?
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Nov 2006 15:40    Post subject:
Put them in the ISO folder, you may want to also think about compressing them, there are a couple of applications out to do this but the process uses PSP specific (or rather, devhook specific) compression types.. Try searching for CSO compressors..

Once in the ISO folder, start devhook and load up the specified game.. some games need settings changing, but most will run fine on default values..
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jonels
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Nov 2006 15:47    Post subject:
I'm confused.. I thought playing retail backups was not possible because of the ta-082 motherboard.


I looked up "gormless" in the dictionary, it said "without gorm" .... so i looked up "gorm" but it wasn't there ????
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