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tulioanjos




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 12:08    Post subject:
zk1nner wrote:
Mr_Sora,
now 730mb of RAM used. I have 2 IE's opened, icq, mirc, windows sidebar, daemon-tools, steam, and ms word 2007 opened.

Realdeal,
no, it's just tells you used evaluation key to activate. But your windows is full anyway, don't worry. We all have that report, and don't know how to clear it Sad

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Oh, i forgot to add Symantec Antivirus Corporate, it eat's much i think Smile

try to disable aero, use classic visual theme like win2000, disable everything that do more appearance, so you will have less memory usage, and tell us the difference, would you? thank you
by the way: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Corp-ZWTiSO] » [17mins 47secs / 13.11.2006]
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?
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zk1nner




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 12:25    Post subject:
Okay, i used classic skin with no effects, then rebooted, killed everything in tray. Then i entered task manager and killed some procs such as search engine, some windows media bars, dunno it's some additional vista stuff.

Now RAM use is 450mb. I don't think i can make less.
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touf




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 12:54    Post subject:
[Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Corp-ZWTiSO] » [17mins 47secs / 13.11.2006] »
Fake, maybe?
there are like 2 or 3 releases like this, and all these releases are 3.5Gb

I heard Microsoft bought a lot of stock options from ram makers... lol
Vista is taking 400~500mb idle and up to 700mb when i start loading browser and other crap
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zk1nner




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:03    Post subject:
The last info i got now is that the BillGates release is homemade or modified iso. I use it now and have no problems but it's not original (differs from MSDN RTM). Yeah, that's true. Some files are really from RC1 (activation ones).

There is some releases (non-scene) which are surely real of Enterprise Corporate edition. It doesn't ask for CD-key on installation, but requires activation. Who has this ones it's recommended to install them.
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.VISTA.ENTERPRISE.EDITION.X64.VOL-MSDN
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.VISTA.ENTERPRISE.EDITION.X86.VOL-MSDN

I got them and will try x86 soon.
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Tutukun




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:09    Post subject:
so how much RAM it take if I turn everything on?
Why the hell is it so heavy anyway? Someone pls rip DX10 and make it installable for XP pls


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:12    Post subject:
Tutukun wrote:
Why the hell is it so heavy anyway? Someone pls rip DX10 and make it installable for XP pls

LOL, you can't do that. DX10 was rewritten from scratch and will only work on Vista, so forget about "ripping it" or any homemade cracks for it... EVER!


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Tutukun




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:17    Post subject:
Oh well.. maybe i just keep praying and oneday god will make DX10 compatible with XP or even 95 who knows Very Happy


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Ankh




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:22    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
Tutukun wrote:
Why the hell is it so heavy anyway? Someone pls rip DX10 and make it installable for XP pls

LOL, you can't do that. DX10 was rewritten from scratch and will only work on Vista, so forget about "ripping it" or any homemade cracks for it... EVER!


Thats why dx9L will come..as a substitute (I guess..could be wrong)


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Parallax_
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:27    Post subject:
Anthirs wrote:
Thats why dx9L will come..as a substitute (I guess..could be wrong)

Yes, you are wrong. DX9L (L = Longhorn/Legacy) is the DX9 version that will be run on Vista. I can't remember what the last DX9 version on XP will be, but it won't have any DX10 features.


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tulioanjos




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:28    Post subject:
MSDN Vista RTM.iso 2.49 GB
is this true? i will start downloading it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:31    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
Anthirs wrote:
Thats why dx9L will come..as a substitute (I guess..could be wrong)

Yes, you are wrong. DX9L (L = Longhorn/Legacy) is the DX9 version that will be run on Vista. I can't remember what the last DX9 version on XP will be, but it won't have any DX10 features.


Fair enough, I stand corrected I guess Smile Unless somebody proves you wrong that is Razz

Edit: which they won't, I did some research and found that your 100% correct with your statement Smile "Dx9L Windows Vista Only. (L for Longhorn) Provides DirectX 9 API for Vista"


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tulioanjos




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:35    Post subject:
yep, since dx10 emulates dx9, microsoft is going to release a dx9 version to vista
(lol this is what i think at least)
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touf




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:37    Post subject:
I don't want to be rude but nobody gives a damn about your DX10 problems in this thread... please open a separate discussion for that matter.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:38    Post subject:
touf wrote:
I don't want to be rude but nobody gives a damn about your DX10 problems in this thread... please open a separate discussion for that matter.

Big difference between nobody and you. Besides, DX10 is very closely related to Vista, why can't we have a word or two about it in here again?


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tulioanjos




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:39    Post subject:
touf it has all to do with vista
fuck off
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touf




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:42    Post subject:
Parallax_ this thread is named "Microsoft.Windows.Vista.Final-BillGates" and it's not a windows vista discussion unlike "Vista RTM" thread but a release discussion thread.
and tulioanjos go see your mom to learn politeness.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:43    Post subject:
Parallax_ wrote:
Big difference between nobody and you. Besides, DX10 is very closely related to Vista, why can't we have a word or two about it in here again?


/Agree


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:50    Post subject:
Ok ladies break it up. This is a release thread, not a general discussion.. Feel free to have some chats about the topic but try and keep the normal talk in the main thread, that way the information isn't spread out... Oh and touf, chill out Razz
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Tutukun




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 13:50    Post subject:
touf wrote:
I don't want to be rude but nobody gives a damn about your DX10 problems in this thread... please open a separate discussion for that matter.

one of the big different in term of functionality between XP and Vista is DX10. SO if we don't discuss about that then may be we should dicuss about the 3D desktop? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 15:12    Post subject:
How does the crack work? Is it an online activation? if so then it's a just a crack of the moment because it uses the beta activation in order to work. Really soon they are going to eliminate the beta activation.

Another question. I have read on a forum that updating vista you recieved also the proper language pack of your country. Is that true? Are there avaible language packs somewhere?
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 17:11    Post subject:
WalkerBoh wrote:
How does the crack work? Is it an online activation? if so then it's a just a crack of the moment because it uses the beta activation in order to work. Really soon they are going to eliminate the beta activation.


Yes, it's an online only activation even with crack. So, MS is collecting all the IP addresses/phone calls of piraters. I would wait for an offline activation crack. Also, you could deactivate the services related to activation but it'll cause a serious performance hit to vista. The dll trick to extend your eval time will only work for x number of time.

I've tried the ind crack on bg version and now my vista is branded with evaluation version on the desktop (this is even after restoring the original files). We all just need to wait for a proper offline activation crack. Sad

Also, you can't use winver to verify. It doesn't say evalution on that screen. You have to do a right-click, properties on my computer to see if you need to activate or not.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 17:31    Post subject:
About the dudes complaining about Vista being heavy on the memory, read, learn and STFU!
Quote:
SuperFetch is a new technology that speeds up the loading of commonly-used files and programs by pre-loading them into memory.

The intent is to improve performance in situations where running an anti-virus scan or back-up utility would result in otherwise recently-used information being paged out to disk, or disposed from in-memory caches, resulting in lengthy delays when a user comes back to their computer after a period of non-use.

While the necessary files by default are loaded into main memory, Windows Vista has the ability to instead use alternate storage methods, such as USB flash drives, which, though not as fast as RAM, often can be significantly faster than a hard disk drive; thereby freeing up main memory.

SuperFetch also keeps track of what times of day that applications are used, which allows it to intelligently pre-load information that is expected to be used in the near future.

What it does is actually keep the most used programs in memory, so "fetching" them would be much much faster. So Vista takes some of the unused RAM and puts that data there. The good thing about SuperFetch is the memory is freed when needed. If you have 1GB ram, and need 768Mb of it for an app, Vista will free (not it in page file). The even better thing about SuperFetch is it make the system much faster and responsive.
Another thing you can notice is Vista tries to limit its memory usage (real usage + SuperFetch) to 1/2 or less the RAM avaible on the system.
When you open task manager, the figure you see is the real usage + SuperFetch. Vista will shrink when you need the RAM.
Now, ask why the hell would it take so much more memory. Why not? Do you have those sticks of RAM for the beauty of it? If the memory can be put to good use to make the system much faster, why not use it?

More on SuperFetch: http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=242429
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 17:39    Post subject:
So has anyone tried some games yet?!


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Tutukun




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 17:41    Post subject:
chill man, I wasn't complaining, i was asking because i didn't know. You ddon't have to be all defensive like that. Bill... is that you?


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 17:48    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
So has anyone tried some games yet?!


better wait for a nvidia/ati final Vista driver Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 17:55    Post subject:
Tutukun wrote:
chill man, I wasn't complaining, i was asking because i didn't know. You ddon't have to be all defensive like that. Bill... is that you?

Not defensive, angry. Over at Neowin, every 5 mins a morons opens a thread like "Vista is using 500MB of my ram, omg vista sux, bill gates blows, linux/xp rulz" bla bla bla. I'm just tired of it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 17:56    Post subject:
ive tried medieval 2 total war and splinter cell double agent. so far so good Smile
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RobHague




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 18:18    Post subject:
Just to confirm, are the releases that are 3.4GB and claim to be Vista RTM Ultimate fakes then? Has anyone tried one to confirm? Ive seen two simular ones up on the net they are both the same size but by different groups.
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 18:36    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
So has anyone tried some games yet?!

Tried Marvel Ultimate Alliance/Nfs Carbon. 1st one runs quite good, although there's an fps drop compared to xp and Nfs carbon crashes after ea games sign. That''s all for now. I'll try sh3 later Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Nov 2006 18:43    Post subject:
saaaaa,
Removing the movies folder should do the trick with Carbon I read in another thread.
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