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For those using the 2099 method, here's a command line tool to see how long your pc has been running since a reboot:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/232243
This is the output:
\\MY-PC has been up for: 0 day(s), 4 hour(s), 40 minute(s), 27 second(s)
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Nov 2006 21:42 Post subject: |
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| Hfric wrote: | | lnatan25 wrote: | | WalkerBoh, did you notice how long between resets? I'm thinking more and more that if Vista is wake for more than 24hrs, it does days--; If it is restarted before passage of 24hrs, it resets the counter. It's strange... |
well its like this have VIsta installed on a test machine and its running for 5 days 24/7 with the 2099 trick , when i check the counter its 25 days to activation , but when i restart the machine it automaticly returns to 29d59min , so the conclusion is your activation date is set with that trick to 129 years but the activation counter can only show 30 days , and when you reset your comp is resets those days shown that are in the poll of those 129 years |
Fuck, so I wasted an installation with my stupidity... I activated it with a B2 serial, which might render my Vista not-genuine every day now. I should've waited... Oh well, thanks man!
BTW, did you stop the automatic date sync or is that running as well? |
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Nov 2006 21:50 Post subject: |
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| Hfric wrote: | | ...when you reset your comp is resets those days shown that are in the poll of those 129 years |
What do you mean by "poll"? I had left my vista running for 2 days straight. slmgr shows the following:
40510 minutes(s) (28 days(s))
12/17/2006 5:47:18 PM
When I reboot, it shows the following:
40555 minutes(s) (28 days(s))
12/17/2006 6:36:29 PM
I gained 45 minutes! But it still shows 28 days? This stuff isn't consistent at all. BTW, my test machine has not been connected to the internet since installation of Vista.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Nov 2006 22:13 Post subject: |
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Hfric, so that we're clear, what edition did you choose?
I'll be conducting my own experiment in the next few days, so I want to be sure we run the same settings.
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Nov 2006 22:26 Post subject: |
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anyone got service: HTTPFilter ??
I cant user Media Connect with xbox360 becuse I dont have that service... ?!?!
XP have it...
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Nov 2006 22:57 Post subject: |
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| lnatan25 wrote: | Hfric, so that we're clear, what edition did you choose?
I'll be conducting my own experiment in the next few days, so I want to be sure we run the same settings. |
version: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.RTM.32Bit.and.64Bit.AIO.DVD.READ.NFO-WinBeta
installed: Vista 64bit ultimate
and by poll i mean those 129 years ,
anyway i just realized that when you set up the year 2099.12.31 and install vista you will get a day extra and thats why some people get 28 days , becoz the next date after 2099 is 1970 /funny bios bug , looks like in 2099 we will have a another milenium99 bug  / so i instaled again and set the date to 2059 , and my activation day is allways 30 days ... so it looks like Vista counts those days from that date not back wards like i presumed but forwards , or maybe this is only a 64bit bug hmmm must install the 32bit version and check this ... |
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Nov 2006 23:01 Post subject: |
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| Hfric wrote: | | lnatan25 wrote: | Hfric, so that we're clear, what edition did you choose?
I'll be conducting my own experiment in the next few days, so I want to be sure we run the same settings. |
version: Microsoft.Windows.Vista.RTM.32Bit.and.64Bit.AIO.DVD.READ.NFO-WinBeta
installed: Vista 64bit ultimate
and by poll i mean those 129 years ,
anyway i just realized that when you set up the year 2099.12.31 and install vista you will get a day extra and thats why some people get 28 days , becoz the next date after 2099 is 1970 /funny bios bug , looks like in 2099 we will have a another milenium99 bug / so i instaled again and set the date to 2059 , and my activation day is allways 30 days ... so it looks like Vista counts those days from that date not back wards like i presumed but forwards , or maybe this is only a 64bit bug hmmm must install the 32bit version and check this ... |
Thanks. I use the same version of Vista as you and installed the same one too. Man, that's some good observation/finding. I was still scratching my head trying to see why I have 28 days on reset. At least that's one explanation. But I actually have it set to 2099.1.1 not 2099.12.31.
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Nov 2006 23:33 Post subject: |
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Just got my SCSI drive working, but my 2 Sound Blasters are fucked...
1 works the other has a ERROR 10 ... I guess its got that error because it doesnt have a PageFile of its own...
Cant even Install the NVidia Drivers... Why not ???
Owell, cant wait for some damn drivers to be released...
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 05:17 Post subject: |
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Damn ATi drivers won't detect my video card. Wtf is that about.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 07:19 Post subject: |
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This is ridiculous, Vistas Device Manager shows no Display Adapter what-so-ever. No wonder the ATi drivers won't install.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 07:44 Post subject: |
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Hey do you only have 512MB Ram? Im officially sick of this shit, As soon as I installed Vista my bios went from detecting 1024 to Vista showing 300MB and then me saying WTF!? Then checked my bios again and what do you know!? Shows 300MB in my bios too! WTF is going on!
First my vid card is no where to be found now this shit is tampering with my Ram!? Someone please tell me im missing something here. I would love to be informed.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 07:53 Post subject: |
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Maybe Microsoft should monitor this forum and make us all testers. Seems their testers didn't do such a good job. Or maybe no developers are working to get their products to work with Vista. Come January 30th, anyone that buys this on a new computer is going to be very disappointed, unless some serious work is done by then. I like some aspects of it, but others I don't. As you can see from my post, i only rate a 1.0. I'll be upgrading soon, but the 1.0 is due to my video card (AGP) which means to "keep up with the neighbors" I'll have to upgrade everything.
I hope this activation is permanent.
I'm keeping an activated copy on an old hard drive just in case!
Yes, I onle got 512!
Can't imagine why the OS would change your ram, especially in the bios?
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 08:29 Post subject: |
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| Kusaywa wrote: | Maybe Microsoft should monitor this forum and make us all testers. Seems their testers didn't do such a good job. Or maybe no developers are working to get their products to work with Vista. Come January 30th, anyone that buys this on a new computer is going to be very disappointed, unless some serious work is done by then. I like some aspects of it, but others I don't. As you can see from my post, i only rate a 1.0. I'll be upgrading soon, but the 1.0 is due to my video card (AGP) which means to "keep up with the neighbors" I'll have to upgrade everything.
I hope this activation is permanent.
I'm keeping an activated copy on an old hard drive just in case!
Yes, I onle got 512!
Can't imagine why the OS would change your ram, especially in the bios? |
Thanks for letting me know. Well after a long while of troubleshooting it all came down to my Overclocked settings. I brought my CPU and Ram back to default speeds and reset my bios via jumper and all of a sudden windows detected the full 1 Gig.
And i updated my bios and now my video card is detected, Im loving the Aero Theme.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 10:18 Post subject: |
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Restored my Acronis cloned image of x64 XP. Nice and speedy again, with NO thrashing \o/
I'm not delusional, I know I'll have to use Vista again, but just now, for my hardware kit and with the current state of drivers, it simply isn't good enough to run as my primary OS.
Vista SP1 is still a long way off sadly.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 11:47 Post subject: |
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Mine all of a sudden says "Evaluation Edition" so I wonder if this Activation crap is a bluff...
AND Vista does turn off after 30 days ???
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 13:11 Post subject: |
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the things we need to run old games from other windowses :
*dx9L
*new video codecs that will not install in the core level /quicktime ,realmedia player , Bik players and others/
*new GFX drivers /ati , geforce/
*new daemon drivers /check - they allready released them/
*new drivers FOR ALL software that will not install in the core level /modems , printers , soundcards , ans so on/
and thats about it
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 13:24 Post subject: |
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| ManMountain wrote: | Restored my Acronis cloned image of x64 XP. Nice and speedy again, with NO thrashing \o/
I'm not delusional, I know I'll have to use Vista again, but just now, for my hardware kit and with the current state of drivers, it simply isn't good enough to run as my primary OS.
Vista SP1 is still a long way off sadly. |
Before attacking Vista you should wait for a final release of drivers for each hardware you have.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 14:49 Post subject: |
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Believe me, I'm not attacking Vista - merely pointing out it's early flaws on my system.
I do agree that once some solid drivers appear things may improve, especially in the Nvidia graphics front, but the bottom line is from what I have seen, it's overall performance leaves a lot to be desired.
I will keep an open mind, but Vista is not the OS I had hoped for.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 14:52 Post subject: |
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Things WILL improve. Remember, Vista isn't supposed to be out until January 30th, by that time you will have loads of new drivers for it.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 14:54 Post subject: |
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| ManMountain wrote: | Believe me, I'm not attacking Vista - merely pointing out it's early flaws on my system.
I do agree that once some solid drivers appear things may improve, especially in the Nvidia graphics front, but the bottom line is from what I have seen, it's overall performance leaves a lot to be desired.
I will keep an open mind, but Vista is not the OS I had hoped for. |
in 1 year you will have 2 gig gfx cards , 2kw PSu , 2 tetra HDD , and a blue-ray/HD-dvd burner and 4 gigs or ram ,
so why bitch now lets wait a year and see what the future will bring |
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 15:03 Post subject: |
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How the heck do you get into "Documents and Settings" ???
Bloody cant get in there... And Im supposedly have the rights...???...
Driving me insane...
I have to get in there to change some Game Settings...
EDIT...
Never mind, figured it out...
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 16:46 Post subject: |
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After 4 days vista continues to show 30 days left and the timer resets every time i boot my pc.
Waiting for final drivers of video card, motherboard and cpu then i'll leave XP.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 18:22 Post subject: |
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Sorry, but I have to...
| Quote: | Explain this before you spout off. Installed Vista with the date as 17.11.99 ....set date back to 06. Worked fine for a few days before i noted the Activation Period droped down from 30 to 29 and wouldnt reset. So i replaced the files with the crack and used my RC1 key. Activation Error. More Information tells me that its something about not being able to verify the licence..... I retried this going back between different files (same files from different sources) and using more than one RC1 key of mine that i got THAT DAY. Eventually i gave up and reinstalled the OS with the correct date (in 2006) then tried it again. Worked fine.
So you should go install the OS with the date trick of 2099, then try and activate with RC1 keys once you have patched the files ... it wont work. Then come back and tell me im "POSTING CRAP". |
If you read back for a few pages, this is what we are trying to figure out, why does the days counter go down, when, and will it go down to 0. There is no explanation as of now.
Also, if you read carefully, you'd know that I did the 2099 (2050 in my case) trick, went 29 days and I activated the same installation from 2050 with a B2 key. It worked perfectly. My Vista is now "for evaluation purposes only". Do you want me to make a sceenshot of the "Windows is now activated" with the date explorer.exe was created?
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 18:39 Post subject: |
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1. Burn Your Windows Vista RTM Build 6000 ISO
2. Disable/Unplug Your Internet Connection
2. Enter Your Bios And Set Your Date Year To 2099 (or whats the max year that your bios is capable of ex: on my desktop i set it to year 2070 and my laptop year 2099)
3. Boot From Your DVD
4. Don't Enter A Product Key! (leave it blank and a command will prompt click "No")
5. Wait Until Windows Vista Finishes Installation!
6. When Vista Installation Is Finished And Goes To The Windows Where You'll Enter Your Desired Account Name & Password Followed By Computer Name Don't Enter Anything Just Press SHIFT + F10 Key A Command Prompt Will Pop-Up Then type "taskmgr" (without the "") Go To Processes And End The Program Called "msoobe.exe" By Clicking End Process.
7. The Account Creation Screen Should Disappear & The Welcome Screen Will Appear But With A User Called "Other User" Click The Arrow Button In The Right Corner Then Click "Restart"
8. Upon Restart Press F8 Key Then Go To Safe Mode
9. Now When Your In Safe Mode Go To START>RUN>type control userpasswords2 (the user accounts setting should appear)
10. Go To Advanced Tab & In Advanced User Managament Click>Advanced
11. You'll See Two Folders Named Users & Groups
12. Double-Click Users Folder Then Right Click The Icon Named Administrator, right click on Properties & Unchecked The Setting That Says "Account Is Disabled" Click Apply>OK
13. Don't Restart Your Computer Not Yet
14. In The Clock Time Shown In The Taskbar Right Click On The Clock & Click Adjust Date & Time
15. Go To Internet Time TAB > Change Settings > And Unchecked Synchronize With An Internet Time Server > Press OK
16. Restart Your Computer. Go To Bios And Reset Your Normal Date Year (don't plug your internet cable yet!not yet!)
17. You'll Notice That Your Username Is Administrator
18. Now Go To Run And Typed winver it will say that the product is licensed to: Windows User (you'll think why not my name?)
19. And In My Computer Properties The Computer Name Has A Randomized Name
20. Go To Folder Options And Check Show Hidden Files & Folders
21. Browse To C:\Windows\system32\oobe and Run msoobe.exe
22. Put In Your Desired Account Name + Computer Name + Date & Time Zone And Your All Set
23. Vista Will Analyze Your Computer's Performance
24. When The Performance Check Is Complete
25. You'll Be Back On Your Administrator Account Desktop Go To START>RUN>type control userpasswords2 > advanced > in advanced user management click advanced > double click users folder > right click administrator then properties > and check account is disabled > restart your computer
26. Plug In Your Internet Connection LAN Cable
27. Then Take A Look At Your winver & my computer properties!
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I downloaded the BillGates + used the Bittorent trick to get the MSDN hash etc. Only took 5min to finish.
Also I found this on the net. Tried it myself and it seems to be working.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Nov 2006 18:58 Post subject: |
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I think that your list of 25 things it's useless. It works simply like described before.
In my opinion the days became 29 when you have Vista running for over 24h.
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