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poullou
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 Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2006 06:28 Post subject: |
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valve are just shooting their load on the gaming press
"we're fucking gamedev gods!"
the truth is VERY few games today even utilise multithreading AT ALL
two/more cores/processors is an awesome thing.. it smooths out the whole computer
but not speed it up
go dual - the quad advantage is miniscule
perhaps with the next generation quad might be worth it when programmers really wake up to multithreading
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2006 10:25 Post subject: |
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You will see a big boom in multithreaded games in 2007. All games running on UE3 supports it, although not all uses it to their advantage. Crysis supports multithreading as well, and so does Alan Wake (which takes a huge advantage of quad core).
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2006 11:28 Post subject: |
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From what i read, intel&amd plan to deliver more quadcores during 1st quarter 2007.
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=905&cid=8
its a review of incredible rig:
intel quadcore QX6700 processor
nforce680i striker extreme
2x1GB Corsair Dominator Twin2X2048
2xgeforce 8800gtx in SLI
*drools*
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2006 13:47 Post subject: |
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well go for the quad core. the games will take advantage of it in the near future.
ie alan wake's physix calculations are done by the other cores. you don't need a physix card for that.
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deelix
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2006 15:21 Post subject: |
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Nov 2006 16:19 Post subject: |
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Physics are now calculated on the GPUs as well (8800, don't know if ATIAMD will follow up). Also Havok will add an API to calculate physics on the GPUs.
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poullou
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Nov 2006 10:33 Post subject: |
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Regardless, let's see who are on top of today's benchmarks. That's right, Core2Duo. Things are changing faster than you know 
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Nov 2006 11:43 Post subject: |
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thanks for your input guys. The bottom point is what should be the attitude of the consumer towards new technologies.
For instance core 2 duo has been on market from july-august 2006, and now intel is planning new entries next year on the mainstream core 2 duo line & core quad line,probably dropping prices.. wait more and more? when must one decide to buy to get very good performance without being ripped?
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poullou
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Nov 2006 12:03 Post subject: |
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I would say buy a C2D today or buy a not-top-end quad core in ~6 months. Today there is no reason to buy quad core. Those who buy them have the money to buy octa cores in a year or so. However, we don't know what the price will be for mid-range quad-cores in a few months...so we might stick to dual cores even then.
Ἢ τὰν ἢ ἐπὶ τᾶς - Μολὼν λαβέ
Today is a gift. That's why it's called the present.
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Nov 2006 13:32 Post subject: |
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don`t know you guys but its up to games if they will use it or not ...
remember P4 HT or AMD 64bit ... all the world said WOW i can run my games 4x or 8x times faster , my games will be awesome
/ to this day they are only 6 games that use HT or amd 64bit technology  /
Programs will run faster but if games will , i say don`t bet on it , maybe 5 or 9 will use the power of the other cores ... anyway on the PC more and more power is transfered to GFX and not to the processor , but if games would be made processor dependent for physic hmmm ... Well we all have seen that the new line of Ge-force will have a physic processor so don`t bet on it that games will be processor dependent like it was showed in Alan Awake , becoz the gfx will do the physic... 
anyway todays technology goes to the wrong direction , yes i like the performance but what about power consumption , we got a GFX that will eat 430w and a dualcore 75w or quadro 130w ... if they will go in this direction i will play only consoles becoz having a PC that need a 2kw PSU just misses the point , sorry but i am not a billionaire
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poullou
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Nov 2006 15:49 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | | Crysis supports multithreading as well, and so does Alan Wake (which takes a huge advantage of quad core). |
At a recent semipublic demonstration of Crysis for hexus.net members the lead developer said that sadly they did not support quad core.  |
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Nov 2006 16:04 Post subject: |
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| Epsilon wrote: | | At a recent semipublic demonstration of Crysis for hexus.net members the lead developer said that sadly they did not support quad core. |
As I'm sure you have learned to read, the quad core comment was about Alan Wake. |
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Nov 2006 19:09 Post subject: |
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My 5 cents...get a "cheap" C2D, like the E6300 or somet, clock the shit out of it and get GOOD! ram and a kick as Gracard. Save the big bucks for maybe fall 2007. but then again I always say buy the best know and be King for 2-3 month, couse in 2-3 month there will be another guy on the hill, but at least u get to be King
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Nov 2006 10:41 Post subject: |
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) talks about the current state of processing(serial) where fewer cores win. Multi-cores won't win you today's comparisons. 
