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CyberP@cal




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Nov 2006 02:10    Post subject:
taskkill /f /im wininit.exe

Try this funny command Wink
(not dangerous)


Sorry for my bad english !
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Markieman234




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Nov 2006 02:39    Post subject:
Quote:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Mark>taskkill /f /im wininit.exe
ERROR: The process "wininit.exe" with PID 536 could not be terminated.
Reason: Access is denied.

C:\Users\Mark>


Funny? :S
Ill try getting access to wininit.exe and see if theres any difference
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Kusaywa




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Nov 2006 04:41    Post subject:
I installed Bill Gates Vista on 2 different hard drives at 2 different times. Using Winver.exe, they are both set to expire on 5/31/07... ???
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segobi




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Nov 2006 06:47    Post subject:
Markieman234 wrote:
Quote:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Mark>taskkill /f /im wininit.exe
ERROR: The process "wininit.exe" with PID 536 could not be terminated.
Reason: Access is denied.

C:\Users\Mark>


Funny? :S
Ill try getting access to wininit.exe and see if theres any difference


run cmd as admin Wink
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blackm00n




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Nov 2006 09:53    Post subject:
CyberP@cal wrote:
taskkill /f /im wininit.exe

Try this funny command Wink
(not dangerous)


So, it kills wininit.exe .

Does this prevent windows expiration date?
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$en$i
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Nov 2006 10:25    Post subject:
Kusaywa wrote:
I installed Bill Gates Vista on 2 different hard drives at 2 different times. Using Winver.exe, they are both set to expire on 5/31/07... ???
This is the date for which the betas and RC serial keys are set to expire.
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 18:31    Post subject:
blackm00n wrote:
CyberP@cal wrote:
taskkill /f /im wininit.exe

Try this funny command Wink
(not dangerous)


So, it kills wininit.exe .

Does this prevent windows expiration date?


No, but it kills your audio. Sound will miracleously stop working. But it does free up some RAM. Smile
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Shadow_Master




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Dec 2006 22:49    Post subject:
i dont know what are you talking about but this ver does have a key and about 3 activetion programs that seems to work as far as i can see.
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Virtual-R




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 02:06    Post subject:
Well, today my company got real cd-keys for Windows Vista Ultimate, i tried to change back to the original tokens and the other file, so it was like the original of the Winbeta release, then I re-activated Ultimate with this legal cd-key ( a MSDN-key) and... It worked perfectly, my Ultimate edition is now registred and fully working for all time, the expire date is gone, and the "evaluation watermark" is gone.
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Markieman234




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Location: The Toon, England
PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 05:21    Post subject:
nice one for getting a decent serial.. im still dreading the day when the counter reaches zero and I have to reinstall vista Sad
i did the 2099 trick and then tried the RC2 trick, but it wouldnt let me activate it as the install date was set to 2099 and vista thought it had already expired..grr
hopefully a crack will come out soon......
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Virtual-R




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 14:50    Post subject:
Yeh, I'm happy... I hope someone can get a workin keygenerator for all of you out there.

The interesting part was that the WinBeta-release works with those company-keys, this means that if someone get a workin keygenerator, Vista won't have to be cracked, windows update will work for every1 forever and so on... Hope you get it fixed....
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dark_matter




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 15:07    Post subject:
And how will this working key generator stop MS from blacklisting any of the keys it generates? Surely you don't believe that MS hasn't thought about a key generator, they hired blackhats to help design the security and anti-piracy methods!!! They can blacklist and nuke any computer they feel isn't genuine. Even if you key is legit and comes from MS itself they can still nuke your machine if they want to.

And to be honest, I cannot see how your genuine MSDN key would even work with a BETA RC1 or RC2 version of Vista, considering they use completely different hashing algorithms.
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Markieman234




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Location: The Toon, England
PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 15:44    Post subject:
dark_matter wrote:

And to be honest, I cannot see how your genuine MSDN key would even work with a BETA RC1 or RC2 version of Vista, considering they use completely different hashing algorithms.


I think virtual r meant he used the RC* crack to get his vista RTM to run, then he replaced the RC" tokens.dat and other file with the ones from build 6000, and then used his legit key to activate.
But yeh ur right, M$ would blacklist any keygen.. besides, a working keygen is not needed. I would assume a working activation crack would not prerequisite a serial number to be entered in order for it to work..
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Dec 2006 16:35    Post subject:
No no, no key generators! That's the worst option! Then WGA has to be cracked as well, even if it generates a key that would activate (don't worry, it won't).

The only valid option is to crack the 30 days toward activation timer. That is the only option to keep Windows WGA-proof and updateable.
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 08:10    Post subject:
Look at what I found when the window tray activation icon reminded me to activate within 24 days (this is the command that launches the tray notification):

C:\Windows\system32\SLUI.exe 2 0 0 0 24 30 0 1 2 -1 0 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}

Of course, this command seems to run at random. I was lucky to capture the process command when it did occur. But I didn't get a chance to grab the other info (well, I got the strings but none of the thread info, stack, etc.). I'm not posting the string since it's huge. Also, you can probably find out by opening SLUI.exe using a hexeditor.

Anyone know how to decipher the command? I know the "24" means my days left and the "30" means the total trial period days. What does the "1 2 -1" part mean? The stuff between the curly braces looks like serial keys but why are they all blank? I did not input a serial when installing vista but even so vista generated a serial number anyway. So, why isn't it shown?!

Anyway, this brings up more questions than answers.
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heckknow




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 08:33    Post subject:
Okay, so I lied. Here're some interesting registry entries in the strings file for SLUI.exe (don't ask me what they mean; these don't show up in the registry; you have to add them manually; i'm not messin' around with my registry someone else who's brave can do it):

SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\SafeBoot\Option
DescriptionResourceLocation
NameResourceLocation

SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SL\GenuineApps
EnableBalloonTips

SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
NotificationLengthOverride

SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SL\Activation

Also, those values in the command line with the curly aren't serials but registry entries!

I suspect the following are api function calls or classes:

SLOpen
SLGetWindowsInformationDWORD
SLGetProductSkuInformation
SLGetWindowsInformation
SLRegisterEvent
SLUnregisterEvent
SLClose
SLGetLicensingStatusInformation
SLGetSLIDList
SLGenerateOfflineInstallationId
SLUX_ActivationWizardEx

CheckElevationEnabled
GetStartupInfoW
SetUnhandledExceptionFilter
QueryPerformanceCounter
GetTickCount
GetCurrentProcessId
GetSystemTimeAsFileTime
TerminateProcess
GetCurrentProcess
UnhandledExceptionFilter
RtlVirtualUnwind
RtlLookupFunctionEntry
RtlCaptureContext
WinSqmAddToStream

method LaunchExeWW
method BeginAutoActivation
method EndAutoActivationWW
method ShouldShowEvent
method LaunchNonGenuineUIW

Then it gets into the secure xml stuff (only listing partial info):

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<!-- Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation -->
<assembly
xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1"
xmlns:asmv3="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v3"
manifestVersion="1.0">
...

There's also references to "publicKeyToken" with this value format (n=number;l=letter):

nnnnlnnnnnlllnll

And a web link:

http://schemas.microsoft.com/SMI/2005/WindowsSettings

Of course, the URL takes you to a 404 page. Smile
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dark_matter




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 08:38    Post subject:
I doubt any registry hack would crack Vista
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LeskiL




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 13:52    Post subject:
does any of theese still work or is it me who is doing something wrong?

Windows.Vista.RTM.Activation.Crack-iND
Windows.Vista.FINAL.Crack.raVen
Microsoft.Windows.Vista.RTM.PROPER.Activation.Crack-ReeBSaW

What i do is i boot in safe mode, replace the files, boot normally. and then as soon as i log in the activation window pops up and ask for the serial. i Enter my RC1/RC2 serial (my own). And it says it not the right serial, and boots me back to login screen. So i can't get into windows. So i have to boot in safe mode again and replace the files again with the original RTM files. I got 7 days left now Sad
Btw i know it's not a 100% crack, but it will give me some more time befire i have to reinstall...
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dominae
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 15:48    Post subject:
LeskiL wrote:
does any of theese still work or is it me who is doing something wrong?

Windows.Vista.RTM.Activation.Crack-iND
Windows.Vista.FINAL.Crack.raVen
Microsoft.Windows.Vista.RTM.PROPER.Activation.Crack-ReeBSaW

What i do is i boot in safe mode, replace the files, boot normally. and then as soon as i log in the activation window pops up and ask for the serial. i Enter my RC1/RC2 serial (my own). And it says it not the right serial, and boots me back to login screen. So i can't get into windows. So i have to boot in safe mode again and replace the files again with the original RTM files. I got 7 days left now Sad
Btw i know it's not a 100% crack, but it will give me some more time befire i have to reinstall...


None of these work permanently, no.
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SBeaver




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 19:50    Post subject:
Quote:
KMS method to activate your Vista !! (Business/Enterprise editions only)

Step 01:

Install Vista FINAL RELEASE with Key XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-2V3X8
Choose "Business edition" ONLY not others !!

Step 02:

When Windows setup completed and Internet access setup completed.
Open Command Prompt under "Administrator Mode",
That is, right click the Command Prompt icon, select "run as admin"
Activate your Business Vista against sito.kmip.net
(This is a private KMS server for Volume License 2.0a activiation).
Now in command prompt (Admin mode)

type -

cscript c:\windows\system32\slmgr.vbs -skms sito.kmip.net

cscript C:\windows\system32\slmgr.vbs -ato

Activate completed !!

Now you may wish to check the activation status

type -
cscript c:\windows\system32\slmgr.vbs -dlv

*************
KMS Volume License activate requires re-activate every 180 days.
The reactive should be done automatically.
Only works for Business Vista and Enterprise Vista, not other editions!!


This circulates all over but I havnt tried it.
Apparently Chinese have set up an activation server (KMS) that is public, at least that's what they say.
Havn't tried it as I don't have enterprise installed anywhere.

edit:removed serial
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WalkerBoh




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 20:10    Post subject:
SBeaver wrote:
Quote:
KMS method to activate your Vista !! (Business/Enterprise editions only)

Step 01:

Install Vista FINAL RELEASE with Key XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-2V3X8
Choose "Business edition" ONLY not others !!

Step 02:

When Windows setup completed and Internet access setup completed.
Open Command Prompt under "Administrator Mode",
That is, right click the Command Prompt icon, select "run as admin"
Activate your Business Vista against sito.kmip.net
(This is a private KMS server for Volume License 2.0a activiation).
Now in command prompt (Admin mode)

type -

cscript c:\windows\system32\slmgr.vbs -skms sito.kmip.net

cscript C:\windows\system32\slmgr.vbs -ato

Activate completed !!

Now you may wish to check the activation status

type -
cscript c:\windows\system32\slmgr.vbs -dlv

*************
KMS Volume License activate requires re-activate every 180 days.
The reactive should be done automatically.
Only works for Business Vista and Enterprise Vista, not other editions!!


This circulates all over but I havnt tried it.
Apparently Chinese have set up an activation server (KMS) that is public, at least that's what they say.
Havn't tried it as I don't have enterprise installed anywhere.

edit:removed serial


Sounds good but i'm not sure this method will work for a long time.
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SBeaver




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 21:14    Post subject:
I browsed around a chinese forum and they had a vmware image that can be used for KMS server, i.e. running a server yourself in vmware and using it as a server to activate.
I'm downloading it but not sure if I got the right file yet.
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Omego2K




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 22:07    Post subject:
tell us if that works Smile
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SBeaver




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 22:12    Post subject:
Omego2K wrote:
tell us if that works Smile


The ftp had the file but it was broken (winrar could see file names and it's a vista vmware image of 5gigs)
They have a torrent link to but I can't see it without better forum status and my non-existent chinese skills or google translator doesnt get me that far unfortunetly.
If someone here knows chinese please read http://www.vistafans.com/viewthread.php?tid=65266&extra=page%3D5&page=1

and try to get the files somehow, or say if it's the real deal.
Maybe then put up a torrent mirror.
This thread might require registration to read (I managed that. but nothing else)
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Omego2K




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 22:20    Post subject:
SBeaver wrote:
Omego2K wrote:
tell us if that works Smile


The ftp had the file but it was broken (winrar could see file names and it's a vista vmware image of 5gigs)
They have a torrent link to but I can't see it without better forum status and my non-existent chinese skills or google translator doesnt get me that far unfortunetly.
If someone here knows chinese please read http://www.vistafans.com/viewthread.php?tid=65266&extra=page%3D5&page=1

and try to get the files somehow, or say if it's the real deal.
Maybe then put up a torrent mirror.
This thread might require registration to read (I managed that. but nothing else)


why would you need to download any files? according to the nfo all you need is a cd key
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SBeaver




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Dec 2006 22:28    Post subject:
Omego2K wrote:
SBeaver wrote:
Omego2K wrote:
tell us if that works Smile


The ftp had the file but it was broken (winrar could see file names and it's a vista vmware image of 5gigs)
They have a torrent link to but I can't see it without better forum status and my non-existent chinese skills or google translator doesnt get me that far unfortunetly.
If someone here knows chinese please read http://www.vistafans.com/viewthread.php?tid=65266&extra=page%3D5&page=1

and try to get the files somehow, or say if it's the real deal.
Maybe then put up a torrent mirror.
This thread might require registration to read (I managed that. but nothing else)


why would you need to download any files? according to the nfo all you need is a cd key


you need the image to set up your own KMS server, the public KMS server might go down you know Surprised
If this stuff actually works, it's amazing that it hasnt come out before.
The original thread with the image is almost 10 days old, and the kms server alone has been up for almost a week.
I'm not saying this is it, but it could turn out to be so I'd like to get my hands on that image before MS nukes China and kills everyone that has any knowledge of workarounds.[/b]
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MikeleBG




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Dec 2006 01:28    Post subject:
I am planning to get new computer soon, and with it, I would like to instal Vista as OS. However, its not clear to me what is acctualy going on with current nfo realises of Vista. Somebody says it works, somebody says it doesnt. So many diffrent comments and is so confusing. Can somebody specify :
- what nfo version of Vista is most complete and works perfect
- what version of Vista has longest activation period and how dificult is to activate it
- have there been realised drivers for Geforce VGA, Asus / Gigabyte motherboards, canon multufunctional printers, ADSL, MX 1000 mouse.....
- how does instalation of S-Ata HDD works on Vista, is same as on XP at the beggining of instalation of OS or ??
- with what nfo version games best performs on Vista
- do any games have issues with Vista at this moment and what are those games
- does Aero inflact performance of games on Vista
- what is fps on Vista OS compering to XP in games

Please, if somebody can give concreat answers, I would be thankfull!
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SBeaver




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Dec 2006 01:47    Post subject:
I found the torrent link now and I'm downloading.
The public kms server in china WORKS at the moment, and loves you long time (one guy activated and got 2008 as expiration date).
I'm gonna try set up a private server once i get this vmware image.
Good luck
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Omego2K




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Dec 2006 02:51    Post subject:
well the torrent allows you to make your own server, only problem is, you need 25 different computers to make it be able to activate.
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Markieman234




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Dec 2006 05:06    Post subject: READ if new to Vista!
MikeleBG wrote:
I am planning to get new computer soon, and with it, I would like to instal Vista as OS. However, its not clear to me what is acctualy going on with current nfo realises of Vista. Somebody says it works, somebody says it doesnt. So many diffrent comments and is so confusing. Can somebody specify :
- what nfo version of Vista is most complete and works perfect
- what version of Vista has longest activation period and how dificult is to activate it
- have there been realised drivers for Geforce VGA, Asus / Gigabyte motherboards, canon multufunctional printers, ADSL, MX 1000 mouse.....
- how does instalation of S-Ata HDD works on Vista, is same as on XP at the beggining of instalation of OS or ??
- with what nfo version games best performs on Vista
- do any games have issues with Vista at this moment and what are those games
- does Aero inflact performance of games on Vista
- what is fps on Vista OS compering to XP in games

Please, if somebody can give concreat answers, I would be thankfull!


1)
Well generally speaking, there are a few releases available.. the BillGates release (first one to come out), WinBeta and the ECHOS release.
WinBeta and BillGates releases are both AIO (All In One), meaning that any version of Vista can be installed from the DVD, you select the one you want during setup.
WinBeta, however, is the only current release to have additional x64 support.
The Echos volume license enterprise release does not give you any particular advantage over using the other two, as Microsoft now requires volume license editions to be activated, as opposed to Windows XP.

Regarding feedback from other forum users, I would advise against installing 64 bit Vista, driver and software support for the x64 platform in Vista is allegedly unacceptable.

I personally run WinBeta 32bit Ultimate edition and am so far very happy with it.
It found drivers for most of my hardware, minus my TV tuner and mobile phone. For those devices the XP drivers worked flawlessly.

2)
There is no working crack for Windows Vista Genuine Advantage (WVGA) at the moment.
There are a couple of temporary workarounds that have been proven to work:

a) Using an RC1 / RC2 / Beta key to activate.

Here, two files from within Windows Vista counting activation key data are replaced with their Beta counterparts, meaning that a legit beta key can be used to activate Vista RTM.
The main downside to this is that, as with the Beta, the product will expire on June 1st 2007.
Also, if you choose this method, it is likely that when a real working fix comes out you will not be able to fix your machine, as it is already "activated"; it is easier to crack a "virgin" Vista install into activated mode than cracking a time tomb.

b) Using the 2099 trick

This is simple: before you install Vista, set your BIOS clock forward to 2099.
After you install it, set your clock back to 2006.
The 30 day expiry date WILL go down, but instead of actual time being counted down, the clock will only count down your usage of Windows.
This means that you have 30 days worth of usage of Windows.. the clock is suspended when your PC is turned off and Windows is not running.
"slmgr.vbs -rearm" command may be used up to 3 times to reset the clock, so you have 120 days usage.. by which time hopefully a working WVGA crack will be released to the public.

3) Drivers
I'm not sure about Geforce cards, but I'm aware that people have been having a number of problems when running specific games.
My ATI card runs fine under Microsofts default WDDM drivers.
As for your other hardware, if Windows and your hardware manufacturer do not supply Vista drivers at this time, I would advise you to try out your XP drivers. Generally speaking with devices like printers, wireless and sound cards, they work ok.

4) SATA support is embedded into Vista, you do not need one of those stupid boot floppies in order to use your SATA disk under Vista setup.

5) Games, as all other applications, will perform with minimal differences on different versions of Vista, they all use DirectX 10 / 9L
As not much of a gamer, I'm not aware of what games Vista is having problems with.
I can tell you though that Half-Life 2 as well as Episode One both work flawlessly.

6) Aero is turned off automatically when most games are run, therefore performance is not hindered.

7) No concrete tests have been determined yet for game performance under Windows Vista.

My advice to you is to:

Install XP SP2 and get your system up and running.
Next create a secondary partition on your hard disk, change your clock forward to 2099 and install Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit. Use any release you want.
Do not enter a serial number when you install.
When you log into Vista, put your clock back to normal and enjoy.
You'll find yourself with a dual boot menu when you power on your computer.
The command "slmgr.vbs -xpr" will tell you how much time you have left before you need to run "-rearm".

Now, why install XP SP2?
Well first of all, you're getting a new computer so you'll probably be curious as to how XP and Vista perform comparatively with your hardware.
Also, if a particular application / game/ piece of hardware doesn't work yet under Vista, just boot into XP and you should have no problems.
Generally though, I am very happy with Vista at the moment and am considering wiping my XP installation. Smile
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