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speed999




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Dec 2006 23:29    Post subject: [NDS] DS-Xtreme 4Gb Reviewed – Revolutionary ‘All in One’ DS
Hi Has anyone bought one of these DS-Xtreme's yet?

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=11305

They sound amazing - but before haninfg over the cash i'd like to know if they work.

Are they as easy tro use as the review says?

Cheers

Speed
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Dec 2006 23:31    Post subject:
512Mb of space? Just not enough.. I'm waiting for the M3 simply and buy myself a 2Gb Micro SD card.. Very Happy
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speed999




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:04    Post subject:
Thanks for the reply sYn- When is the M3 out?

I'm new to the whole DS scene - Bought two DS lites for my young kids for Chrissy - but if terh Extreme is 4 GIG and the backups appear to be about 24 meg each- can't the DS Extreme therefore hold a whole heap of backups etc?

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TheBugulous




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:08    Post subject:
Yes I finally got one some weeks back - great *great* cart AIO.
1stly for games and homebrew you get 512MB = 4Gb which is ample.
No need for a passcard.
No need for game manager to patch roms.
No need for a micro-sd adapter.
No need to take cart out of NDS - keep it plugged in and just connect microUSB cable then copy roms, etc across to Apps folder.
No need to use GBA slot - frees it up for rumble adapter, etc.

Some people say it is expensive but remember it is AIO - also cheaper units may have slower memory which can result in failing games, etc.
The team behind this cart have a friendly & useful forum & have so far released 1 firmware flash:-

http://forums.ds-xtreme.com/showthread.php?t=878


It is a brilliant cart - as easy to use as the Flashcarts for the GBA were.

I am not knocking the M3 as I also have that - it is a great product with better support for emulators, pda, etc. Just more 'fiddly' than this AIO.

When buying the DS-X unit make sure it is from a *authorised retailer* - here is the list:-

http://forums.ds-xtreme.com/showthread.php?t=1276

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TheBugulous




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:11    Post subject:
speed999 wrote:
I'm new to the whole DS scene - Bought two DS lites for my young kids for Chrissy - but if terh Extreme is 4 GIG and the backups appear to be about 24 meg each- can't the DS Extreme therefore hold a whole heap of backups etc?


Of course - the largest NDS rom is 1Gb so you can stick 3-4 on the unit.
Homebrew will be a lot smaller.

In any case this idea of cramming as much as possible on the cart is plain wrong. I just have 1-2 titles and some homebrew to look at. The DS-X is a *quality* product and you won't be disappointed with it - just the best solution for the NDS/NDSL

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:25    Post subject:
THIS UNIT IS 4 GIGABIT.. not GIGABYTE.. ONLY 512Mbytes of space! Its a marketing ploy.. Meaning you can't even fit on some of the bigger roms! So as I said before, there is not enough space on this unit.

Quote:
Included 4GBit (512Mbyte) onboard flash memory

http://www.ds-x.com/cgi-bin/dsx/engine.pl?page=product-dsxtreme

The M3 should be out in Jan I think, its going to cost around $30-50 which is much cheaper than the DS-X but you will need a seperate Mirco SD card.. It should work out to be a little more expensive.. but you get more storage!
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TheBugulous




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:33    Post subject:
Errr the DS-X has 4Gb or 512MB memory - the largest NDS ROM so far (and 'fixed' by Nintendo) is 1Gb or approx 124MB. So you can put 3-4 1Gb ROMS on the DS-X.

There is no marketing ploy - all the cart manufacturers refer to their memory sizes using Gb rather than GB - they have done so for years now.

The M3 with a 8Gb microSD card is 1024MB or 1GB. So it can have twice the capacity of the DS-X.

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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:36    Post subject:
Since when have memory manufacturers referred to memory sizes in Gigabit? Clearly I (and Kingston the largest memory company) missed the memo..

http://www.kingston.com/flash/sd_home.asp

No memory companies use bits to state memory sizes, so it is a marketing ploy (in some senses).. Bits are used to signify transfer speeds not storage space.

Needless to say, the size of NDS roms is new to me, its good news to see that they are very small, in fact its rather shocking, I was sure FF3 would be far bigger than 128MB's in size.
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speed999




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:39    Post subject:
Thanks for the advce sYn - basatrsds they are. Still it seems like it's the easiest and my kids are driving me NUTS asking for new games ($80 each here in Australia) and i have 20 games waiting on my HDD.

I might go the Extreme now and upgrade down the track.

Bugulous - who did you order thorugh? I can't get one here so i'll have to order from o/s.

Thanks again

Speed
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:42    Post subject:
If the roms are only 128MB in size then the DS-X is still a pretty good buy, although I'm still thinking the M3 with a Micro SD card will come out cheaper.. Might be an idea to wait a week or so to see if some M3 reviews come out, it may be that the first lot of M3's suck Razz.. Not likely though as they have a great track record..
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TheBugulous




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:53    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
Since when have memory manufacturers referred to memory sizes in Gigabit? Clearly I (and Kingston the largest memory company) missed the memo..

http://www.kingston.com/flash/sd_home.asp

No memory companies use bits to state memory sizes, so it is a marketing ploy (in some senses).. Bits are used to signify transfer speeds not storage space..


"There is no marketing ploy - all the cart manufacturers refer to their memory sizes using Gb rather than GB - they have done so for years now."

If you go back to the GBA carts "flashadvance linker" , etc they all were advertised in Mb(its) so it is nothing new.

I finished FF3 twice on the DS-X with 0 problems - ROM size is approx 124MB & as the DS-X has a micro-USB2 interface copying it across was quick (!)

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TheBugulous




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:55    Post subject:
speed999 wrote:
Bugulous - who did you order thorugh? I can't get one here so i'll have to order from o/s.


*Only* buy from authorised resellers:-

http://forums.ds-xtreme.com/showthread.php?t=1276

"The Official Resellers are as follows:
USA:
Modchipstore, Foundmy, Modchipman, RealHotStuff

Canada:
Divineo, Consolesource, Kicktrading, GamerSection

Europe:
Divineo.es (Spain), Modchip-store (UK), Divineo.it (IT), Mod-chip.com (EU), Divineo.de (DE), Metashop-fr (FR), Chollodigital (ES), Divineo.se (SE), Shop.01media (SE), Magichip (FR), Gameland-Shop (FR)"

Buying from AUS - try Modchipstore as I got my M3 from them ok - overseas by DHL in like 3 days (!)

And to quote "Avoid MrModChips LIKE THE PLAGUE"

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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 00:58    Post subject:
Madness! I seriously don't get why anyone would use bits instead of bytes in this instance.. haha

Ah well, at least we have cleared up speed999's confusion on the matter.. That is the point after all Smile!

As for FF3 being only 128MB, awesome Very Happy..
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TheBugulous




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 01:03    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
Madness! I seriously don't get why anyone would use bits instead of bytes in this instance.. haha

Ah well, at least we have cleared up speed999's confusion on the matter.. That is the point after all Smile!

As for FF3 being only 128MB, awesome Very Happy..

Hee hee FF3 was very good - the various jobs you get like summoner/geomancer/ninja were very cool. Great little game - I read somewhere that Nintendo 'fixed' the size of the official ROMs at 1Gb(it) so there is no problem with any of these fantastic carts. The DS-X is AIO so it is much eaiser to use than the M3.

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speed999




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 01:15    Post subject:
[quote="TheBugulous"]
speed999 wrote:
Bugulous - who did you order thorugh? I can't get one here so i'll have to order from o/s.


*Only* buy from authorised resellers:-

Thanks for all your help mate Smile

Speed
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TheBugulous




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 02:24    Post subject:
speed999 wrote:
Thanks for all your help mate Smile Speed

Hey no problem - I suggest you contact modchipstore (in the us) and ask them if the DS-X is in stock - I had to wait 3-4 weeks for mine(!). Else like syn says get the M3 - I suggest get a 'combo' package that includes everything - M3 cart, microSD memory, SD Card adapter for the PC & passme 3 card. Again modchipstore does these - I got the M3 Lite (fits in NDSL) w 1GB microSD.

Anyhow whatever you end up getting good times will be had ! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 03:23    Post subject:
Or wait for one of the alternatives. There are two DS-X alternatives in the works, both of which are single cart (like the DS-X) and don't require a passme card.. The first of which is the "M3 Simply" that I mentioned above, this is probably the one I'll go for, but only when it hits UK stores..

Info
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=12605

Pre Order
http://www.divineo.cn/cgi-bin/div-cn/dsl-m3dsssimp.html - Divineo China
http://www.modchipstore.com/M3-DS-Simply-Slot-1-solution-homebrew-backups-microsd-16418.html - US Pre order

The second is the "R4" which is again in pre-order status I belive..

Info
http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=12921

Pre Order
http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/dd-ds-r4.html

However, it seems that both products are in fact exactly the same but with different branding.. Not too sure on that one though.. either way.. they should be good!
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 04:16    Post subject:
Yes pre-ordering should be avoided (!) That M3 Simply looks very good - I like the microSD memory you just plug into it - this is better than the DS-X which is fixed at 512MB memory.

The AIO solution is the way to go - just like the old flash advance carts on the GBA - so easy to use Smile

I still have and use my old parallel gba linker with my 256Mb(it) flash advance cart ! Happy days Very Happy

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ManMountain




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 14:21    Post subject:
Already had a DS Lite running with a G6 Lite 4Gbit and Passcard 3. Santa also just dropped the kids two more DS Lites, but with 2 x M3 Lite's, 2 x Passcard 3's and 2 x 1GB MicroSD's.

Without a doubt, the additional storage using MicroSD's on the M3's definitely is the winning factor. With 700 odd ROM's to choose from, the kids are having a great time. So am I, as I've saved £20k or thereabouts.

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Dec 2006 15:15    Post subject:
the new M3 and G6 will be better than this thingie

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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 01:53    Post subject:
Nobody should get the M3 Simply or the other slot 1 solutions...yet. I'm pretty sure its been confirmed that none of the current ones play GBA roms and most homebrew will have problems. There has been talk that M3 will release a "real" slot 1 solution that does all of these things and just takes one slot. The simply model is just a stopgap product to go up against the other slot 1 solutions. I researched this because I was considering it when I was looking for a mod solution just a couple weeks ago, but decided on the tried and true M3 Lite.

Glad I did because playin oldschool lucasartgames(scummvm) and oldschool nintendo is a MUST. Not to say that the new DS games are shabby(actually they are some of the best I've played in a looong long time), but I guess I just want it all on my portable Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Dec 2006 02:56    Post subject:
I'm not that fussed about GBA as I can do that on my PSP.. which is why im going with the M3 simply Smile.. Although the homebrew issues is a bit crappy, im pretty sure I wouldn't have bothered with it anyway Wink! Im in it for the free DS games buhahahaa..
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd May 2007 03:02    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
I'm not that fussed about GBA as I can do that on my PSP.. which is why im going with the M3 simply Smile.. Although the homebrew issues is a bit crappy, im pretty sure I wouldn't have bothered with it anyway Wink! Im in it for the free DS games buhahahaa..


how's the m3 simply treatin you?

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manu_xl




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd May 2007 04:25    Post subject:
we may expect a 2GB DS-X soon (2048 MB) maybe its smart to wait a little more

http://www.ds-x.com/cgi-bin/dsx/engine.pl?page=home



@ds-x users: are all roms playable on ds-x ... afaik the answer is NOT, right?

http://wiki.scorpei.com/index.php/DSX_compatibility_list
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slenoj




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd May 2007 11:31    Post subject:
It would be smarter to buy a cheaper and better cart, and just about all of others come into that catagory.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd May 2007 15:28    Post subject:
So whats the best card Razz?
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd May 2007 17:17    Post subject:
im using a supercard micro with 1gb micro sd card. works fine for me, i only want to play nds roms mind you.
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd May 2007 00:07    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
So whats the best card Razz?


How's m3 simply!!!

It's my nephew bday this month and he wants a cart soo bad Sad Sad Razz

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slenoj




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd May 2007 01:12    Post subject:
'M3' simply is a great cart, but it's exactly the same as the often cheaper 'R4'. They are made by the same 'factory', but R4 is directly marketed by the makers.

Alot of ds sceners have recently been getting stuff from dealextreme, and so far all have been pleased with the service and flash cart products.. bear in mind standard shipping can take betwwen 7-14 days


www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1459
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd May 2007 02:09    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
[sYn] wrote:
So whats the best card Razz?


How's m3 simply!!!

It's my nephew bday this month and he wants a cart soo bad Sad Sad Razz


I never got it in the end due to no money.. I'm very close to buying the above though :O!
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